Oh 4chan?
Edgy.
What about the ground in Europe?
i don't use plebbit
Oh 4chan?
Edgy.
What about the ground in Europe?
i'd actually rather not disclose my current whereabouts, but yes /pol/ is the best news source around. i see stuff posted here all the time that i've known about for 3 or 4 days.
Lol why is it such a secret where you are? I've uncovered a new funny. Ashamed of working in Frisco.
Actually now that I think about it sometimes I hear about things weeks, monhs, or even years before mainstream media starts covering it. Twitter is another good source.
Seriously, you don't have to say what office park you're in. We know you never leave the Metroplex. No shame in that.
WikiLeaks Reveals How the US Aggressively Pursued Regime Change in Syria Igniting a Bloodbath
In the case of Syria, the cables show that regime change had been a long-standing goal of US policy; that the US promoted sectarianism in support of its regime-change policy, thus helping lay the foundation for the sectarian civil war and massive bloodshed that we see in Syria today; that key components of the Bush administration's regime-change policy remained in place even as the Obama administration moved publicly toward a policy of engagement; and that the US government was much more interested in the Syrian government's foreign policy, particularly its relationship with Iran, than in human rights inside Syria.
A December 13, 2006 cable, "Influencing the SARG [Syrian government] in the End of 2006,"1 indicates that, as far back as 2006 - five years before "Arab Spring" protests in Syria - destabilizing the Syrian government was a central motivation of US policy. The author of the cable was William Roebuck, at the time chargé d'affaires at the US embassy in Damascus. The cable outlines strategies for destabilizing the Syrian government. In his summary of the cable, Roebuck wrote:
We believe Bashar's weaknesses are in how he chooses to react to looming issues, both perceived and real, such as the conflict between economic reform steps (however limited) and entrenched, corrupt forces, the Kurdish question, and the potential threat to the regime from the increasing presence of transiting Islamist extremists. This cable summarizes our assessment of these vulnerabilities and suggests that there may be actions, statements, and signals that the USG can send that will improve the likelihood of such opportunities arising.
This cable suggests that the US goal in December 2006 was to undermine the Syrian government by any available means, and that what mattered was whether US action would help destabilize the government, not what other impacts the action might have. In public the US was in favor of economic reform, but in private the US saw conflict between economic reform and "entrenched, corrupt forces" as an "opportunity."
In public, the US was opposed to "Islamist extremists" everywhere; but in private it saw the "potential threat to the regime from the increasing presence of transiting Islamist extremists" as an "opportunity" that the US should take action to try to increase.
http://www.truth-out.org/progressive...ng-a-bloodbath
Boutons with the goods for once
Just got my copy of confessions of an economic hit man and it looks brutal tbh
My mind is about to be blown
ISIS are some tough mofos. Tbh I might have underestimated them.
Apparently they had sleeper cells in Aleppo and as soon as Russians finished the other rebel forces they turned the cells on thus grabbing lots of villages next to Aleppo and even surprising the Iranian general that got killed.
These mofos are no joke. Big win for them today
Sadaam had a professional, well trained army. It's now called IS. Shouldn't be a surprise.
Of course the inevitable has occurred:
Human Rights Watch said late on Friday that the first Russian air strikes on northern Homs last month killed at least 17 civilians and should be investigated for possible violations of the laws of war.
Russian President Vladmir Putin said earlier this month that reports of civilian deaths in Russian air strikes on Syria were an "information attack".
This will be a constant, especially with the Russians using dumb bombs. (Not that our smart bombs prevented the above from happening) Putin, of course, will be launching investigations to make sure this does not happen again. Check that, this would tarnish the badass image craved by people who want to be good at something.
Putin is going to send in Chechens to fight in this thing... Whoops...
Russian strikes hit northern areas of Latakia province, the coastal heartland of Assad's Alawite minority sect, as well as northern areas of Hama province further east, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.
There was no immediate information on casualties.
The Observatory says Islamic State has no real presence in these areas. However, there were other militants in northern Syria, such as Chechens, that Russia might want to take out.
For the above:
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-air-strikes-target-western-syria-monitor-100809638.html
no, Chechens (Muslims) are fighting there against Assad, with ISIL, and Russians would want to shutdown any Chechens.
Ah .
Russian jet shot down by Turkey.
s about to hit the fan. Have a happy Armageddon fellas![]()
Putin should realize this isn't the Cold War where the Soviets could do whatever they wanted. The rest of the world doesn't fear Russia the same way. You can't fly into someone's airspace and think nothing will happen. Of course the Turkish would respond. Their military is no joke.
Turkey and US say Russian jets could be shot down
https://euobserver.com/foreign/130566
Sounds like Russia is the only one who wants to defeat ISIS. Everyone else (especially Turkey) is benefiting from the disarray
Yes that is all true. But the Russians have to be careful how they operate. Shouldn't be careless flying into Turkish airspace
Lol i think the ing expressnews.uk made up that story about the planes. Most likely BS
ing expressnews worst news outlet wver
"Russia is the only one who wants to defeat ISIS"
bull . USA, Iraq, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey, etc all "want" to.
Russia's priority is to protect Assad, first by taking out the Syrian rebels, rather than ISIS.
Bull . At this moment nobody wants to defeat ISIS.
The West and Sauds want Assad to go first. And the Russians and Iranians want Assad to be stable first.
Boots:
You post all over these threads yet can't keep up...
Yep.
This is where things can get out of hand.
Turkey is very shaky right now and they have the capability to do more sophisticated military acts.
Turkey is finding out all the ill will they have sowed is coming back to haunt them.
Trouble with ISIS, trouble withe the Kurds, and internal political problems... Possible powder keg country.
I "kept up" with the yahoo article: " Chechens, that Russia might want to take out."
Russia wants to take out (Muslim) Chechens in Syria, just as Russia "took out", destroyed rebelling Muslim Chechens in Chechnya a few years ago. try to keep up. Muslims along Russia southern border are a major concern for Moscow.
http://www.chechensinsyria.com/?tag=isis
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