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For all the McCallum nut huggers.
1:42:43
1:08:35 to see KL screw up Jimmer's three.....
Last edited by Spurtacular; 10-11-2015 at 07:09 PM.
1:42:43
Jimmer getting cut. Lol
Spurtacular should send those to the spurs video guys. Lmao.
Ray really did a number on Stockton and caused deflections and knocked balls loose. In reality the come back that started in the third and went all the way to the fourth was sparked by good defense anchored by Boban, but Ray and Kyle especially were really active with good defense. The stops they got enabled them to get some fastbreaks points or early offense going with defenses on their heels. When Ray sat and Jimmer came in the team could not complete the win. On the one hand Jimmer improperly closed out on shooters, gave up shots, failed to contain his man, fouled Marco in a close out and things of that nature. On the other, he missed shots, passed up shots other guys could have taken due to a slow release, had TO and overall didn't help the team. Williams was also very deficient and not the hustle guy that Butler proved to be and tried to do too much. Butler would play off the ball and off of other guys, Williams felt like he had the talent to make plays as the ballhandler, which he does not.
If you really pay attention to the last quarter you will notice Ray's impact on defense, he was terrific. He forced things at one point offensively when Messina sat Kyle down for a minute. i will agree that Ray's half court offense needs polishing, but he was by far the best defensive guard (better than Simms too).
Agreed. It's clear that certain posters here will take any little thing and use that as something against Jimmer. And I myself was biased b/c I was hoping for expecting better things in the first game; and I had said that Jimmer played poorly when that's not really true at all. His shot not going down though. Here's what I had posted in the Jimmer thread just now:
First stint
* Made a three negated by Kawhi's turnover.
* Nice pick n' pop assist to LMA.
* No defensive lapses. Actually played good defense on Rondo for that matter.
* Good pass diagonal pass to Mills in the corner for a three that he didn't take.
* Great drive and floater that he didn't convert; but LMA cleaned it up b/c his man had to help.
* A good hard cut to the basket that LMA could've hit him on; in any event, it made the defense shift and created options at the three for other rotating players. LMA elected to brick a turnaround shot though.
* He created a mismatch for LMA on a quick transition after a made basket; and when Cousins went to double, he received an open three (which is exactly what the Spurs want).
* A hard close on Beli to not allow him an open three.
* Jimmer's thee presence on a post-up isolation prevented a strong side double. He would make a great back cut on the perimeter to get open for the three; LMA did not hit him and instead took Cousins 1v1 and was fouled.
* West committed a turnover on a collapse play that brilliantly left Jimmer open for three. Instead, West forced it. Come regular season, those plays will be hammered out and Jimmer will get the ball in rhythm and hit the bomb.
* Negative +/- very attributable to LMA playing very poorly within the offensive scheme. (LMA was taken out at the same time as Jimmer when RM came in and had a good +/-)
2nd Stint
* Good drive and floater. At the time I thought it was forced; but on the re-watch, I realize he knew he could easily get that shot on the much smaller David Stockton. He just didn't convert.
* Heads up foul on Anderson after he burned the other Anderson to not allow an easy lay-up.
* Good rotation. Anderson made the pass too high, so Jimmer couldn't get the open three off. A good drive; but then it looked like he was indecisive about shooting a floater or kicking to the corner and it was a turnover.
* Great use of the screen by Boban and then a "great" pass to Boban for a would-be dunk that he dropped. Btw, the reports of eye rolls by ST'ers are bunk. He clapped his hands and was muttering to himself. He directed no ill will to Boban though. For all we know, he wished he put the ball a little higher so that the ball couldn't be swatted from the big man's hands.
* Passed up on a good three from the side from KA. Pass was a bit low; but it was Stockton coming late. He should've taken it. But it was early in the shot clock; and those are the kind of 'mess-ups' a coach can live with.
* Missed a corner three. Rushed it, imo. A pump fake for the oncoming Stockton and a step to the side and shot would've been better, imo. But the shot he took was not bad per say.
* Played better defense against Stockton than Ray did, tbh.
People don't necessarily hate Jimmer they hate his riding fans just like the Jeremy Lin fan club. Dude hasn't accomplished squat in the NBA to have people hanging on his nuts. People can't stand Kobe mostly b/c of his riding fans not necessarily his game or the color of his skin.
How many screen names do you have to ride Kawhi, apo?
Jimmer played defense by the book on Rondo and kept Stockton in front of him til the last couple possessions. He'll never be great on defense; but the reports of bad defense on ST are fabricated.
On the Marco play, that was a coverage rotation in which he had to sprint out to not allow a wide open three; and he accomplished that. If he fouled to stop a wide open two after the fact, that's not a big deal.
On offense, Jimmer played well; he simply didn't make his shots. I guess any player that is missing his shots isn't helping the team. But if he makes a couple of those shots, then the tone about him is completely different.
Seriously? You're getting as bad as apo with this Jimmer riding and the guy will be lucky to make the team. I hope it's because you're a Mormon/BYU fan/alum or in someway related to Jimmer.How many screen names do you have to ride Kawhi, apo?
Shut your face.
Truth hurts. Keep your Jimmer slurping in the Jimmer thread.
You got better not be calling anyone who disagrees with you apol. Otherwise make your case got.
Considering he's the youngest player EVER to win both DPOY/Finals MVP he deserve to be worshiped by every so called Spurs fan. Jimmer's biggest accomplishment in a Spurs uniform meanwhile is picking up doughnuts for Porker.How many screen names do you have to ride Kawhi, apo?
The team was down 78-64 and by the end of the third was down by a 11. Only 1 defensive play in that time really involve Ray at all. Spurs score 2pts off a turnover in the 4th after the Kings threw it directly to Ray (down 9). Then Koufos missed a shot he could make and Ray followed it up with a 3 (down 6). Koufos got called for an illegal screen. Ray hits a midrange shot off the deadball (down 4). Belinelli missed a contest midrange shot by Ray. Some defensive plays that Ray did little on and then Ray hits a 3 (down 1). While the defense kept them from scoring the offense was sparked by Ray hitting shots and didn't have much to do with fastbreak action. Most of the defense had little to do with Ray.
Overall Ray did have 2-3 good individual defensive possessions but when he was screened he benefited from other teammates more than Jimmer(1:30:32, 1:37:02, 1:37:54,1:42:20, and the 1st half ndoye was playing much better defense on the screens). At 1:43 WCS comes in on the last play before Ray is taken out and you'll see similar action that Stockton got with Jimmer. Before that Boban was only dealing with Koufos.
Ray fouled Belinelli on a bad close out as well. Ray also dribbled out of bounds once and traveled another time. He didn't showcase the playmaking ability that Jimmer did and really looked to pass the ball on multiple occasions because of pressure from Stockton.
The most significant difference was that Ray hit some shots. Also Stockton hit a contested jumper, Rondo hit a jumper(that every team is fine with him taking), and ty curry hit a floater(maybe an easy shot for him but I'm not sure) on Jimmer.
even reggie williams made a three
I think we'll just agree to disagree. Ray contained Stockton much better which stifled ball movement. If you think he wasn't involved in some ways it is bc Stockton deferred to a degree after trying to go at Ray a few times and failing. I thought Jimmer played with effort, but he's limited on defense by both his lack of size and bad closeouts. The worst aspect is his inability to get his shot off. You are right that a lot can be concealed by other good actions and timely shots, of which he didn't make any. Some of the shots he passed up could have been good looks for someone else and a couple he tried in that period were good looks for himself slow release and all.
I was neutral on him b4 this game, but I see that there was a real point to his critics and the worst is his slow shot. Guys can close out on him from further away and when he rushes it it's a miss. Without hot/timely shooting anything else he could add other guys do better bc he does have defensive deficiencies and doesn't add much in other ways. I thought his best aspect was solid ballhandling.
The guy that likes Jimmer like Ayres, surprise surprise.
Nah really but, its not that Jimmers that bad, its just there's better options for such a little number of roster spots tbh
Thanks! Keeps me from needing to unfreeze my ballstream account for a bit longer.
Yeah, Bowen's really bulked up. Also must have got stuck in one of those spine-stretching machines like Connery in Thunderball.
everyone dissecting this game like its a playoff game. guys not running hard, guys not playing defense...its the FIRST preseason game and the FIRST game for alot of these guys with the Spurs. There is a reason why big 3 and even pop didnt even bother to make the trip. they are going to use these first 3-4 games as a scrimmage. relax and enjoy the ride.
Thanks for posting the video.
- Anderson, Mills and Leonard look great
- Boban is more mobile/fluid than I thought
- Don't get the Jimmer love. He was bad tonight
- McCallum impressed; won't miss CoJo.
- How much does West have in the tank?
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