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Fake as . throws her head back and says "women",,,,scripted. Don't be gullible, kids,,
yeah, epic.
Fake as . throws her head back and says "women",,,,scripted. Don't be gullible, kids,,
Ronaldo is the 4th fastest player in world soccer, reaching sprint speeds of close to 21 mph. Like I said, Odor on the Rangers was reaching similar speeds and he's probably not one of the top 20 fastest guys in the league. As for vertical jumps, I'd bet my house that the top leaper in baseball jumps higher than the top leaper in soccer.
They're different sports that require different skill sets. We can't compare Ronaldo's bat speed to Mike Trout's ball control, can we? So all that's left are the core athletic traits to compare: sprint speed, strength, jumping, stamina, quickness and endurance (not the same thing as stamina). Baseball players, on average, perform better in the first three categories. Stamina and quickness is obviously soccer players. Endurance is irrelevant here since both sports aren't really contact sports.2) You are nitpicking the atheltic traits you want to make your argument.
No. The players I'm referencing are pretty much the norm at their positions in terms of athleticism and skill. If you want to be a Major League outfielder, you essentially need NFL wide receiver tier athleticism and coordination. There's less athletic demands on infielders, but they're only a slight notch below. It's the soccer camp that brings up "specific" players of DHs and relief pitchers, which are highly specialized positions. And no "old fart fatso" is a baseball superstar in the current league.3) You are bringing up specific players. So the exception, not the norm. You can be an unathletic old fart fatso and still be a baseball superstar, you don't have a chance of making a carrer as a profesionall futbol player if you are not above average in pretty much every athletic trait there is.
4) You are bringing up players from other sports when this is a baseball thread.I mentioned one. Oh, the horror! Besides, I showed how one of those fatso baseball players runs faster than Ronaldo.
And yet the MLB and NPB (Japanese professional baseball league) are worth more than the 3 most valuable povertyball leagues in the world combined5) None of those things you said negates the fact that baseball is a boring old ass sport that is only going to get less and less popular with time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ues_by_revenue
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Can you guys imagine what would happen if a soccer player took a 95 MPH fastball anywhere on his body? The whole team would fall down.
I just said "I think I saw somebody move"
Third world skill level game ..........
Arent most beisbol players from Mexico, Dominican Republic, Wenezuela and Cuba ?
Damn it K
It actually is true, lol. It was his initial knee injury after being drafted.
Didnt come in because I enjoy both sports ... but damn, Mid did body some niccas on the box on this one.I'm neutral here, definitely lean more towards soccer as a pure sport, but mp just destroyed the thread
For the record both sports are "slow". both have good and great athletes. both games have a nuance to them that if you dont follow on the regular you wont get the strategy and beauty of.
But carry on ...
so you're living rent-free but ur the one starting this thread
So, what you're telling me is that soccer and baseball players are more or less tied on the only athletic traits some baseball players (not all of them, not even most of them 'cause you only have three outfielders per team) need? Doesn't really help you case.
Futbol not a contact sport?They're different sports that require different skill sets. We can't compare Ronaldo's bat speed to Mike Trout's ball control, can we? So all that's left are the core athletic traits to compare: sprint speed, strength, jumping, stamina, quickness and endurance (not the same thing as stamina). Baseball players, on average, perform better in the first three categories. Stamina and quickness is obviously soccer players. Endurance is irrelevant here since both sports aren't really contact sports.
Baseball players are faster and jump higher than futbol players on average?
Take an entire baseball team and an entire futbol team and make them run a relay race. With a hand in your heart, who do you think would win? We all know the answer son.
Same thing happens with jumping, take an average of the jump height reached by an entire baseball team and entire futbol team. Who wins?
No. The players I'm referencing are pretty much the norm at their positions in terms of athleticism and skill. If you want to be a Major League outfielder, you essentially need NFL wide receiver tier athleticism and coordination. There's less athletic demands on infielders, but they're only a slight notch below. It's the soccer camp that brings up "specific" players of DHs and relief pitchers, which are highly specialized positions. And no "old fart fatso" is a baseball superstar in the current league.
Still doesn't negate the fact that baseball is a boring ass sport that decreases on popularity every decade.And yet the MLB and NPB (Japanese professional baseball league) are worth more than the 3 most valuable povertyball leagues in the world combined
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ues_by_revenue
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Moving the goal posts much? First, it was "baseball players aren't athletes!" I demonstrated to you that 3 positions in baseball require not just good athleticism, but world class athleticism near or on the level of NFL wide receivers and that players at those positions are overall more athletic than soccer players. And all infield positions aside from first base and catcher require a great deal of athleticism, coordination, and quickness. You can't seem to wrap your mind around the fact that different positions require different attributes. What you're doing is like me citing a goalie as an example of the general athleticism of soccer players.
Not on the level of rugby, American football, basketball, etc. But I'll concede the point here. However, if we define endurance as the ability to play through wear and tear, both sports chew up their athletes at a similar rate, especially pitchers. Running 5 miles is easier to recover from the next day than throwing 100 pitches at 95mph.Futbol not a contact sport?
Instead of that, let's have a decathlon. Something that measures all the core athletic traits. The Kansas City Royals starting 9 plus Dyson (who has sprinter speed) would decimate Real Madrid. Only event the soccer team would win would be the 1500. The baseball team would have the fastest sprinters, the faster hurdlers, and would sweep the shot put and Javelin by a ridiculous margin. I have no clue why you continue to prop up the athleticism of soccer players when real measurements show that Ronaldo, the best athlete the game has ever produced according to many, has subpar athletic traits compared to American Athletes, baseball included.Baseball players are faster and jump higher than futbol players on average? Take an entire baseball team and an entire futbol team and make them run a relay race. With a hand in your heart, who do you think would win? We all know the answer son.
See above.Same thing happens with jumping, take an average of the jump height reached by an entire baseball team and entire futbol team. Who wins?
I deleted your pics for space reasons, but only Pujols (Cardinals era) and Cabrera could be considered "superstars." Don't know why you insist on posting Fielder. It was already proven that he's faster than Ronaldo
Cabrera has lost 5 steps since gaining weight. Here's his prime form (not fat):
And Pujols isn't fat. It's called "mass," something soccer players don't have, so I understand your confusion:
The MLB continues to take in record revenue and baseball continues to grow in its hot spots (Japan, South Korea, Caribbean, even growing in China). Oh, you're gonna link clickbait articles about "54 years old!" Too bad the real numbers, which can't be spun by journalists, don't support any of those opinions.Still doesn't negate the fact that baseball is a boring ass sport that decreases on popularity every decade.
Major League Baseball (MLB) repeats as the most attended sports league in the world, reporting a 2013 regular season total of attendance of 74,026,895 (sixth highest total in its history).The third most attended sports league in the world, Japan's Nippon Professional Baseball (NPB) saw attendance in 2013 grow 3.17% to 22,047,491, which was over 500,000 more than the highest non-baseball league/fourth most attended professional sport league in the world.After four consecutive years of record attendance growth in the Korea Baseball Organization (KBO) -- which was jump-started by Team Korea's gold medal performance at the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games -- KBO saw a slight dip in 2013 to 6,743,940, after having brought in more than seven million spectators to the stadiums for the first time in 2012. In 2015, KBO will undergo expansion from nine teams to ten teamsThe Chinese Professional Baseball League (CPBL) experienced a massive increase in ticket sales in 2013 to 1,459,072, with average match attendance increasing 149.86% from 2012.
Oh, and it's easy to do the same thing for povertyball.
You can be skinny fat without an ounce of muscle mass and still be one of the best players in the world.
Rooney is nowhere near the best player in the world. That's like saying Parker is one of the best NBA players.Oh, and it's easy to do the same thing for povertyball.
You can be skinny fat without an ounce of muscle mass and still be one of the best players in the world.
Midnight talking about things he has no idea about
Given the amount of people that play povertyball, even if Rooney is in the top 200 players in the world, that still makes him one of the elite or the elite.
Another fine specimen.
To be fair, Midst, a lot of athletes really aren't physical specimens. Endurance, reaction time and coordination aren't really seen on a person's body. Here's a prime example. Although I do believe Soccer is borderline a skill based sport, but it is still heads and shoulders above stickball in this regards.Another fine specimen.
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