2015 Preseason Game #2: Spurs @ Heat, 6:30 CDT

**Kawhitstorm** · 10-13-2015

I think Goran Dragic recruited him heavily since they were teammates in PHX

Danny is his cousin too but he might have gotten a similar offer (moneywise) from the PATFO so there were other incentives to signing w/ the Heat:
-More minutes/shots (6th man)
-Longer leash (he's a gunner)
-Living in South Beach (he seems like a flashy guy)
-Heat being a contender in the East (the LeBron formula to making 5 straight Finals appearances)

**SAGirl** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

The only teams that showed an interest in him to my knowledge were Portland, Miami and Boston. I asked Paul Garcia via twitter if the Spurs showed interest in GG and his answer was no though, I don't know how credible sources are. They both signed roughly around the same time, July 9th-11th. I don't remember which domino fell first. Let me put it this way, if the Spurs were interested, they kept a real low profile about it. I still think Anderson/Simmons were the reasons why they passed on a player like Green. I know Green isn't a great defender but, neither is the combo of Simmons and Anderson. They could have used the extra depth.

Edit: I'm talking about agreeing to terms, not actual signings. The Spurs actually signed Simmons late in July IIRC.

Leads me to believe they are quietly higher in Anderson's potential than anyone here thinks. There is also Pop's fit and character comments.

**Kawhitstorm** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by Chinook

Yes. Bosh is the best PF in the game. People have forgotten that.

...Anthony Davis says otherwise. Blake in beast mode is the 2nd best PF & Toronto Bosh is better than LMA. Bosh making LMA silly on defense is not surprising considering the difference in their foot speed, Bosh is probably as quick as someone like Durant.

**apalisoc_9** · 10-13-2015

Speaking of bigmen, didn't the spurs express interest with M.Gasol first before Aldridge?

I xan totally see why since gasol is probably a million times better fit than Aldridge since he wouldn't be needing touches to keep him happy. He would have been an easier player to transition in the offense and defense and both are about the same age.

I wonder If Aldridge was always the 2nd option after Gasol...

**Kawhitstorm** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

Speaking of bigmen, didn't the spurs express interest with M.Gasol first before Aldridge?

I xan totally see why since gasol is probably a million times better fit than Aldridge since he wouldn't be needing touches to keep him happy. He would have been an easier player to transition in the offense and defense and both are about the same age.

I wonder If Aldridge was always the 2nd option after Gasol...

It's not a secret the PATFO want Marc but he had made it clear he wasn't leaving Memphis. They had to jump on the LMA bandwagon before the ship sailed otherwise they would have been left eating a pie in sky. Marc is tailor made to play in a motion offense & isn't a diva about playing center.

**apalisoc_9** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

It's not a secret the PATFO want Marc but he had made it clear he wasn't leaving Memphis. They had to jump on the LMA bandwagon before the ship sailed otherwise they would have been left eating a pie in sky. Marc is tailor made to play in a motion offense & isn't a diva about playing center.

More importantly he's one of the best Post passers in the game. Aldridge is really poor in this regard. he's a beast scorer but quite frankly he's predictable. The defense Knows he's going to try to score when he has the ball...

The issue I have with Gasol though is that he just has days where he's trying to play like a role player offensively...way too many last year, specially in the last two months of the season where barely even shot the ball. I have no idea how our offense would have looked with parker's decline..Leonard would have been the only legitimate option on those games and even leonard has his problem with being passive sometimes...

**Kawhitstorm** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

More importantly he's one of the best Post passers in the game. Aldridge is really poor in this regard. he's a beast scorer but quite frankly he's predictable. The defense Knows he's going to try to score when he has the ball...

The issue I have with Gasol though is that he just has days where he's trying to play like a role player offensively...way too many last year, specially in the last two months of the season where barely even shot the ball. I have no idea how our offense would have looked with parker's decline..Leonard would have been the only legitimate option on those games and even leonard has his problem with being passive sometimes...

He would essentially have been replacing Tiago thus it would have been a huge upgrade offensively. Marc along w/ Kawhi would have been able to make up for the declining productions of Tony/Tim. If D-West still signed then Pop would have been able to mix & match his PF/C combo. The thing about LMA is that he can single handily carry an offense when he's in a zone unlike Gasol who is very tentative about putting a team on his back which is an issue in the postseason. Otherwise, Gasol can dominate a game without scoring unlike LMA.

**kobyz** · 10-13-2015

So how much the spurs lead was this time that pop succeed to blow away? No metter who is coaching or against who, the most naive coach in history owe to this kind of crap time after time...

**apalisoc_9** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by kobyz

So how much the spurs lead was this time that pop succeed to blow away? No metter who is coaching or against who, the most naive coach in history owe to this kind of crap time after time...

The spurs were up 15 before pop started to play the tryouts. he didn't blow away anything. The 4th quarter was essentially a tryout.

**kobyz** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

The spurs were up 15 before pop started to play the tryouts. he didn't blow away anything. The 4th quarter was essentially a tryout.

He played his second team against heat second team i belive, the point is there is somthing bad, naive, soft in him that tend to waste big leads and losing games that should have won, time after time after time... No metter who's playing and what the moment... This is why spurs have the most and the hardest heartbreaking loses in history of the game... But people will keep making him the second coming of Jesus...

**apalisoc_9** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by kobyz

He played his second team against heat second team i belive, the point is there is somthing bad, naive, soft in him that tend to waste big leads and losing games that should have won, time after time after time... No metter who's playing and what the moment... This is why spurs have the most and the hardest heartbreaking loses in history of the game... But people will keep making him the second coming of Jesus...

he doesn't need to coach a tryout team. Coaches don't coach tryout players..they let them play so Coaches can evaluate them better in the process.

Stop being obtuse.

**Kawhitstorm** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by kobyz

He played his second team against heat second team i belive, the point is there is somthing bad, naive, soft in him that tend to waste big leads and losing games that should have won, time after time after time... No metter who's playing and what the moment... This is why spurs have the most and the hardest heartbreaking loses in history of the game... But people will keep making him the second coming of Jesus...

You're a Jew though so you don't worship Jesus.

**kobyz** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

he doesn't need to coach a tryout team. Coaches don't coach tryout players..they let them play so Coaches can evaluate them better in the process.

Stop being obtuse.

There is a bigger picture, it's a syndrome, somthing in DNA! What is that in him that who ever he is coaching automatic the team get this naive mentality stuff?

**~~MAxEric~~** · 10-13-2015

any full recap of this game?

**HarlemHeat37** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Danny is his cousin too but he might have gotten a similar offer (moneywise) from the PATFO so there were other incentives to signing w/ the Heat:
-More minutes/shots (6th man)
-Longer leash (he's a gunner)
-Living in South Beach (he seems like a flashy guy)
-Heat being a contender in the East (the LeBron formula to making 5 straight Finals appearances)

I would have been fine with Green, but he would be a pretty poor fit with the Spurs, both on and off the court, tbh..

**Chinook** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

...Anthony Davis says otherwise. Blake in beast mode is the 2nd best PF & Toronto Bosh is better than LMA. Bosh making LMA silly on defense is not surprising considering the difference in their foot speed, Bosh is probably as quick as someone like Durant.

Forgot about Davis. Though he's going to end up being a center by the end of this upcoming contract. Bosh is better than Blake, though, at least I'd rather have him. Blake's more talented, though.

**Dex** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by SAGirl

Well pretty excited that the first unit got its groove going. Tim is still the engine and playmaker in that unit God bless him! His game w/ LMA will be beautiful to watch. Danny's cold atm, Tony was setting others up well, I thought he had a good game. Kawhi had a bad shooting night, but otherwise a good game.

Concerns about the second unit arise, but I think they will be fine. Miami's second unit is crazy athletic so it was a challenge for slomo Anderson, slomo Manu, slowmo Boban and co. Anderson is a young guy so he's likely to have up and down performances, it's part of the process and if you want to let young guys grow and improve they will make mistakes at times and have to learn from it. Preseason is the perfect time to figure him out. Boban had a rough night. Feel sorry for him.

Deshaun Thomas looked overmatched, not NBA material. Reggie can shoot, that is why he's still here, but he doesn't defend well, and tries to do too much. He got an extended look in this game. Not sure where he stands. I liked Ray, subbed in with a terrible lineup, he still looked like an NBA player. Ndoye is very raw, but also very agile for a big. With perimeter players that are a disaster he would look worse. I actually think he has some potential to develop. Simmons had a few nice passes and some good defensive moments so I hope we keep him, I really like him with Anderson and he supplies athleticism that Anderson lacks, but he's obviously not a shooter so it's kind of a jam.

I think Butler may end up being picked if only bc with all of slowmo and Simms potential they are developing and a vet wing to mentor them and maybe sub in if they are having a rough night may actually be a good idea.

Didn't see Jimmer so he's bound to play next game. This would have been a perfect game to see him TBH.

Hey, look! An objective game summary that isn't full of player bashing and cliff jumping!

**Dex** · 10-13-2015

at everybody freaking out that our 3rd and a half unit apparently looked like crap.

2 games into preseason and SpursTalk is already in midseason form.

**NikosChelsea7** · 10-13-2015

**TheDoctor** · 10-13-2015

Originally Posted by Dex

at everybody freaking out that our 3rd and a half unit apparently looked like crap.

2 games into preseason and SpursTalk is already in midseason form.

at everybody not catching the sarcasm/jokes.