:lol Hip-Hop

[Quetzal-X]

The issue was you didn't specify that you were referring to bas ized hip-hop when you made your original statement. What is so impressive about making garbage music & slapping a "hip-hop" label on it b/c there are no standards in hip-hop? It's the equivalent of a Chinese knockoff being sold as authentic so you might as well put a horn on your dog & call it a cow. Otherwise, I would pit the highest quality of hip-hop production against any punk rock production whether or not they use instrument or drum machine is irrelevant, it's the final product that matters. There are many folks who claim to be a DJ but most a garbage, it takes skills to made a product worth listening.

If you want what a hip-hop band that plays multiple instruments live instead of using a DJ then check out "The Roots":

IMO melodies and hooks and chorus are what are gonna keep ya ear close.

In the tribe video , the hired musicians are playing off the music from the studio album. But the studio song music is just a sample of ronnie foster. So the majority of the song, even the velvety smooth vibe is similar or the same as mystic brew. Just add different lyrics. I'm no guitar wiz but I play enough to tell you those chords in that song are far from difficult. The hard part was putting some easy chords together in the proper way together to get nice music. All they added was new lyrics. Tribe is the by the way, but all they did was get some new lyrics together. But they are the .

[Quetzal-X]

This is not difficult for someone if they practice. Coming up with that idea or creating it was the hard part imo.
Back in the day if you give tribe these same instruments to play themselves and 1hr, that song would sound like .

[Kawhitstorm]

IMO melodies and hooks and chorus are what are gonna keep ya ear close.

In the tribe video , the hired musicians are playing off the music from the studio album. But the studio song music is just a sample of ronnie foster. So the majority of the song, even the velvety smooth vibe is similar or the same as mystic brew. Just add different lyrics. I'm no guitar wiz but I play enough to tell you those chords in that song are far from difficult. The hard part was putting some easy chords together in the proper way together to get nice music. All they added was new lyrics. Tribe is the by the way, but all they did was get some new lyrics together. But they are the .

All your point are valid & you make a good point but of course hip-hop is based on sampling. My point was that you need a good ear to find a samples then you have to chop the samples up & s ch them to make a BASIC beat that has melodies (Andre/Quik add melodies using their own instruments), hooks (could be original), drum (Dill made his own drum)...etc. Then you have to write a chorus which has to flow w/ the beat. I highly doubt DAF86 would be able to do that in his garage, he's basically claiming he could play do re mi fa so la ti do on his keyboard thus that qualifies him as an amateur producer.