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  1. 10-14-2015 #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjw
    Parker falling behind Green is a joke. And no, I'm not one of those people who thinks Parker is outside the top 200. He isn't elite at anything anymore, while Green is one of the best shooters + best perimeter defenders in the league, bar none.
    not elite? he's not even above average in anything for a PG.

    If the rest of the world thinks he's near the top 50, the Spurs need to trade him while there's still some perceived value left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpursforSix
    not elite? he's not even above average in anything for a PG.

    If the rest of the world thinks he's near the top 50, the Spurs need to trade him while there's still some perceived value left.
    nobody thinks that, tbh..ESPN is a mainstream source, look back in this thread, I listed some of their rankings from last year, which included Rondo..they are in the business of getting clicks, and known commodities > less popular players for clicks, discussions and re-tweets..

    The well-known advanced metrics guys that have ranked players have Parker in the 250-300 range, which is too low, since they're not considering cir stances..I'd have him around 150 or so, which is fair, maybe a little generous..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpursforSix
    not elite? he's not even above average in anything for a PG.

    If the rest of the world thinks he's near the top 50, the Spurs need to trade him while there's still some perceived value left.
    Thankfully RC Buford is at the helm and not you...
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    Just noticed that Parker is ranked above the reigning FMVP.
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    I expect Parker to have a good season playing in his new role, but only because I have realistic expectations(just like I did last year, and got blasted for it)..part of the reason so many were shocked by performance, last year, was because they expected too much out of him due to his name and resume..if anybody expects him to play like a top 50-ish player, they are going to be severely disappointed again, sadly..

    If you temper your expectations and expect him to play like a top 100-150 player, you'll be pleased IMO..
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    Parker at 54.
    Green at 60.

    The Parker who led the league in points in the paint is now largely a thing of the past, a gradual decline accelerated by injury. Parker's percentage of attempts within 3 feet declined from 32.9 percent in 2013-14 to 25.5 percent last season, per Basketball-Reference.com.
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  7. 10-14-2015 #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
    nobody thinks that, tbh..ESPN is a mainstream source, look back in this thread, I listed some of their rankings from last year, which included Rondo..they are in the business of getting clicks, and known commodities > less popular players for clicks, discussions and re-tweets..

    The well-known advanced metrics guys that have ranked players have Parker in the 250-300 range, which is too low, since they're not considering cir stances..I'd have him around 150 or so, which is fair, maybe a little generous..
    My advance metrics rank Parker somewhere between a piece of garbage and a dog turd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpursforSix
    My advance metrics rank Parker somewhere between a piece of garbage and a dog turd.
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  9. 10-15-2015 #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpursforSix
    not elite? he's not even above average in anything for a PG.

    If the rest of the world thinks he's near the top 50, the Spurs need to trade him while there's still some perceived value left.
    I didn't call him elite. I said he's not elite at ANYTHING anymore. Stop putting words in my mouth.

    Danny Green is not elite either. But he has elite skills as I mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjw
    I didn't call him elite. I said he's not elite at ANYTHING anymore. Stop putting words in my mouth.

    Danny Green is not elite either. But he has elite skills as I mentioned.
    I didn't put words in your mouth. I quoted you verbatim. I was saying you were correct but understating the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpursforSix
    I didn't put words in your mouth. I quoted you verbatim. I was saying you were correct but understating the situation.

    "He isn't elite at anything anymore"

    Don't know how it can be any clearer. Being elite and being elite at a skill are very different. If the underlined text is missing, then it would mean what you thought I said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjw

    "He isn't elite at anything anymore"

    Don't know how it can be any clearer. Being elite and being elite at a skill are very different. If the underlined text is missing, then it would mean what you thought I said.
    You are one dense er. Go back and read it again. I was pretty much agreeing with you but going one step further. If this is a troll job, it's a damn good one because you absolutely seem like an idiot.
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    Duncan at number 23 between Chris Bosh at 22 and Al Horford at 24.
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    Melo at 27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old School 44
    21-25.

    Duncan at number 23 between Chris Bosh at 22 and Al Horford at 24.
    Cheers for keeping this up my friend!
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    Love and Bosh right above TD. Would you really rather have them than Duncan? For this season?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillMc
    Love and Bosh right above TD. Would you really rather have them than Duncan? For this season?
    depends on the team. If you are a team on the bubble, then yes. Bosh and Love will be able to play a lot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillMc
    Cheers for keeping this up my friend!
    Cheers! I sometimes think we are two of a handful that aren't alts/trolls!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old School 44
    Cheers! I sometimes think we are two of a handful that aren't alts/trolls!
    I think a lot of the more casual fans will come back now that the season is starting. Hopefully they'll help dilute the troll posts.
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    LMA at #13; Leonard in the Top 10.
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    The Black Kevin Love finishes higher than the actual Kevin Love. Wonder if it's because they listed his per36 numbers as his per game numbers. Must be the intangibles that the coach sees in practice.

    According to the new CARMELO rating, I think I should refer to him as the Black Rony Seikaly from now on.
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    So the top 10 is (not in order):
    Lebron
    Curry
    Harden
    Westbrook
    Durant
    CP3
    Griffin
    Marc Gasol
    Kawhi
    AD
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
    LMA at #13; Leonard in the Top 10.
    Kawhi gets no respect from refs... it would be nice if this talk about him being an elite player can get some calls...
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    Didn't see this earlier. Skip didnt like Love being above Duncan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillMc
    Didn't see this earlier. Skip didnt like Love being above Duncan.

    That's an understatement! Always fun to see a Skip rant followed by Stephen A. Smith rant agreeing with him.
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