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    You just said the Germans considered them traitors after WWI.Pick a lane.
    As a block yes but that doesn't mean they killed them off systematically or that I'd support that. It's like how not every jap was a spy, but since we didn't know they all went to the camp.

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    Traitors to what?And then Who decides if one is a traitor?
    To your nation, and the people will decide

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    To your nation, and the people will decide
    Whats MY nation?

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    As a block yes but that doesn't mean they killed them off systematically or that I'd support that. It's like how not every jap was a spy, but since we didn't know they all went to the camp.
    So where did all six million go if they were still alive?

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    There weren't gas chambers, there wee designated rooms for delousing clothing. The so called "gas chambers" weren't even airtight. They would've gassed the entire camp including guards and staff.
    They looked pretty air tight to me.

    http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Auschw...schwitz08.html

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    So where did all six million go if they were still alive?
    They never existed

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    They never existed
    So all their prewar records in multiple countries were faked?

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    lol wooden doors

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    So all their prewar records in multiple countries were faked?
    >communist country records

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    >communist country records
    They weren't communist before the war.

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    lol wooden doors


    That's wood? It looks like rusting metal. And look how thick the walls of the building are. lol delousing center.

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    SS Officer Hans Stark:

    At another, later gassing--also in autumn 1941--Grabner ordered me to pour Zyklon B into the opening because only one medical orderly had shown up. During a gassing Zyklon B had to be poured through both openings of the gas-chamber room at the same time. This gassing was also a transport of 200-250 Jews, once again men, women and children. As the Zyklon B--as already mentioned--was in granular form, it trickled down over the people as it was being poured in. They then started to cry out terribly for they now knew what was happening to them. I did not look through the opening because it had to be closed as soon as the Zyklon B had been poured in. After a few minutes there was silence. After some time had passed, it may have been ten to fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight.
    Same link.

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    Let's pretend for the purpose of the argument that the deniers are right and the victims were "just" starved to death. How does that change anything in the grand scheme of things? It's still de able, just like the Holodomor and the Great Leap Forward were de able.

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    So how many were actually gassed tbh?

    I have a hard time believing a large portion of those 6 million suffered that fate tbh

    I would say most died due to war, sickness and famine.

    Not that it makes it any less wrong

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    They weren't communist before the war.
    They were communist by the end of it and I wouldn't trust anything coming from there

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    Let's pretend for the purpose of the argument that the deniers are right and the victims were "just" starved to death. How does that change anything in the grand scheme of things? It's still de able, just like the Holodomor and the Great Leap Forward were de able.
    It is terrible, but not intentional and there's a big difference in starving because you run out of supplies and being systematically gassed for fun

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    SS Officer Hans Stark:



    Same link.
    There were signs of torture on everyone who testified at Nuremberg and you had non English speaking Germans signing admissions of guilt written in English, it was a total kangaroo court and a joke

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    They were communist by the end of it and I wouldn't trust anything coming from there
    So your theory is they went back and created millions of false records from previous governments just to mess with the memory of an enemy they had already annihilated and completely defeated?

    This is what you are trying to sell here?

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    That's wood? It looks like rusting metal. And look how thick the walls of the building are. lol delousing center.
    ill have to read the link when I get the chance in not sure which one that is, but some of the alleged gas chambers had wooden doors which is laughable. Some are admitted "reconstructions" of what they "did" look like before Muh nazis destroyed the evidence. Whole thing is a joke.

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    to mess with the memory of an enemy they had already annihilated and completely defeated
    they wanted the political ideology of national socialism dead and destroyed so that it could never be a viable political choice ever again. They did this by associating it with unthinkable atrocities and evil. They proceeded to put all of Germany and Austria under a massive national brainwashing program called "denazification." National socialism put fear in the hearts of the global shadow government. That's why today the message everywhere is that nationalism = bad.

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    There were signs of torture on everyone who testified at Nuremberg and you had non English speaking Germans signing admissions of guilt written in English, it was a total kangaroo court and a joke
    He was never at the Nuremberg Trials.

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    You people act as if there isn't propaganda in war. You're all repeating 70 year old allied war propaganda. The soviets made up all kinds of lies such as electrocution before settling on gas chambers. They said the Germans massacred the polish officers in Katyn. Of course the victor is the one who writes history. You know there was a guy who went to the camps and took samples, no cyanide residue was found outside of the delousing room. I'll post more red pills later.

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    It is terrible, but not intentional
    That's what all authoritarian regimes say while they're mass-killing people. The Soviets tried to pass off the Holodomor as "food difficulties," the Maoists pretended the Great Leap Forward's famines and starvation were the result of "bad weather" and "policy mistakes." We know now that both were planned and done on purpose.

    I don't buy the deniers' claims that nobody was gassed, but even if that were the case, you'd have to be the biggest sucker on the planet to think that it was all a huge mistake. Just look at the track record of similar regimes who did mass-starve people to death. You don't march that many people into concentration camps just to kill them "by accident."

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    That's what all authoritarian regimes say while they're mass-killing people. The Soviets tried to pass off the Holodomor as "food difficulties," the Maoists pretended the Great Leap Forward's famines and starvation were the result of "bad weather" and "policy mistakes." We know now that both were planned and done on purpose.

    I don't buy the deniers' claims that nobody was gassed, but even if that were the case, you'd have to be the biggest sucker on the planet to think that it was all a huge mistake. Just look at the track record of similar regimes who did mass-starve people to death. You don't march that many people into concentration camps just to kill them "by accident."
    If the us was getting bombed to the same exact thing would've happened to the Japanese here. You put people there to keep them from sabotaging your country from within and to pull their weight for the war effort. Killing them doesn't even make sense then they could be used as labor which was the point.

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    You all have two choices:

    A) the red pill
    B) the red suppository

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