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  1. #51
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    I'll take you up on your bet. Honestly they both are going to be ty. I just think Minnesota will be a bit less ty. I'm good with an avy or sig bet.
    A man with balls. Its a bet.

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    A man with balls. Its a bet.
    I like LA to win 30-35 and Minny to win 35-43, such a wide range for Minny because they are so young and obviously health issues. .

    I think Minny has alot of good pieces. Between Wiggins, Towns, Lavine, and Dieng they have some great young talent.

    A few proven vets, not stars by any means, but decent players in Martin, Rubio, and Pekovic. Then I like guys like Payne and Muhammed could step up and be decent role players off the bench.

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    A man with balls. Its a bet.
    has no balls... he's just incredibly stupid.

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    has no balls... he's just incredibly stupid.
    You want to bet as well naruto? Doubtful as you don't believe the your selling even. Now step up to the plate or shut the up and go watch your gay cartoon porn.

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    So lets bet Lakers no talent squad vs minny and their upside ...if Lakers win less avvy, sig or ele bet. Dont be a pussy back up your with a gentleman's bet. Harlem same offer obviously if you both win one would have to choose which prize you want ...
    You have serious comprehension issues. I said wolves have upside while the lakers have nothing and horrible anything. It doesn't mean wolves > lakers this season although I think the wolves have a chance at a better record.

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    You have serious comprehension issues. I said wolves have upside while the lakers have nothing and horrible anything. It doesn't mean wolves > lakers this season although I think the wolves have a chance at a better record.
    Never said you said that directly you gave a bunch of reasons why we suck and said minny has upside ...so I asked you to bet. If you want it offer still stands ...but you can puss out its up 2 you.

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    35-38 wins for this LA team.

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    I think 27 wins is about right. High, if anything. Gonna be a long year for LakerFan.

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    LOL, suns. I won't lie Tyson is a great "get". But your ty-ass team aint winning or making the playoffs either. and IF tyson goes down ... they may win as few as games us tbh ...

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    Never said you said that directly you gave a bunch of reasons why we suck and said minny has upside ...so I asked you to bet. If you want it offer still stands ...but you can puss out its up 2 you.
    Why would I bet the lakers will have a worse record than Minny this year if I'm on the fence about it?

    Hey, wanna bet how many games the Spurs will win this year? I have them at over 12 wins. You must bet under or else you are wussing out.

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    Why would I bet the lakers will have a worse record than Minny this year if I'm on the fence about it?

    Hey, wanna bet how many games the Spurs will win this year? I have them at over 12 wins. You must bet under or else you are wussing out.
    Stupid analogy. I didnt write a long paragraph saying the Spurs have no talent etc. And 12 wins doesnt even make any sense in your example. So is it CLEAR the Lakers will win more than Minny? So clear like the spurs winning more than 12 games? If you stand behind what you wrote about the lakers and feel Minny has upside what is the big deal to make a bet? it costs you nothing except an avvy/sig change or ELE for a month ...Stand behind your analysis. Unless you were just talking out your ass ... if you are on the fence what does it hurt it costs you no money and the odds are 50/50 if you are "on the fence".

    And yes I think if someone writes a paragraph on how this Lakers team sucks says that they are worse than the worst team in the NBA last year... But yet the minny gets the best player in the draft for two straight years, plus Lavine ... I dont see why this is a such big risk on your part. Russell and Randle are busts.

    So put up or shutup or you goddman right you are a pussy.

    Ok if you wont stand behind that I got the Lakers winning one game vs. the Spurs this year. Same stakes a month of avvy, ELE or sig. Lakers must win at least one game vs these well coached spurs Led by top 4 GOAT level player DPOTY and a top 3 GOAT coach.

    We have a cancer, an antiquated coach and offense. ty metrics and two more rookie busts to add to Randle and the overrated Clarkson.

    So Lakers less wins than Minny or Lakers take at least one game from Spurs. Pick one or both. you can drive me from this place for two months or Kobe bash to your heart's content on my profile for the same amount of time.

    (BTW, Elfslyaer you good for a month)
    Last edited by Killakobe81; 10-22-2015 at 01:09 PM.

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    (BTW, Elfslyaer you good for a month)
    A month works for me. We can do sig or avy. Which ever you prefer tbh.

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    A month works for me. We can do sig or avy. Which ever you prefer tbh.
    Bet. See I appreciate you stepping up like a man does. You said about 32 for Lakers 35 for Minny no huge gap between the teams you could say you are almost on the "fence" ...but you had a take and stand behind that with a friendly wager. That's what real men do.

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    Bet. See I appreciate you stepping up like a man does. You said about 32 for Lakers 35 for Minny no huge gap between the teams you could say you are almost on the "fence" ...but you had a take and stand behind that with a friendly wager. That's what real men do.
    Honestly don't know why you let AMB drag you into these arguements lol. I mean don't get me wrong, I hate Kobe and the Lakers both, think Kobe is one of the most overrated players of all time. AMB takes it to a whole new level though, spinning all sorts of stupid to justify arguements.

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    Stupid analogy. I didnt write a long paragraph saying the Spurs have no talent etc. And 12 wins doesnt even make any sense in your example. So is it CLEAR the Lakers will win more than Minny? So clear like the spurs winning more than 12 games? If you stand behind what you wrote about the lakers and feel Minny has upside what is the big deal to make a bet? it costs you nothing except an avvy/sig change or ELE for a month ...Stand behind your analysis. Unless you were just talking out your ass ... if you are on the fence what does it hurt it costs you no money and the odds are 50/50 if you are "on the fence".

    And yes I think if someone writes a paragraph on how this Lakers team sucks says that they are worse than the worst team in the NBA last year... But yet the minny gets the best player in the draft for two straight years, plus Lavine ... I dont see why this is a such big risk on your part. Russell and Randle are busts.

    So put up or shutup or you goddman right you are a pussy.

    Ok if you wont stand behind that I got the Lakers winning one game vs. the Spurs this year. Same stakes a month of avvy, ELE or sig. Lakers must win at least one game vs these well coached spurs Led by top 4 GOAT level player DPOTY and a top 3 GOAT coach.

    We have a cancer, an antiquated coach and offense. ty metrics and two more rookie busts to add to Randle and the overrated Clarkson.

    So Lakers less wins than Minny or Lakers take at least one game from Spurs. Pick one or both. you can drive me from this place for two months or Kobe bash to your heart's content on my profile for the same amount of time.

    (BTW, Elfslyaer you good for a month)

    Did I say Minny doesn't suck? When did I say that?

    Minny got good players but they need development. I think Minny will likely get a better record than the lakers in 2 years or so but right now? I think they suck. That said, the lakers are in the general vicinity of them, and I can't realistically see the two worst teams in the west will both have over 30 wins. I'd say both teams will win in the mid to high 20s

    Not only do you have serious comprehension issues, you have serious logical issues. Saying the lakers suck means they will have a worse record than the wolves? What kind of logic is that? It has nothing to do with anything. Which was the Spurs bet was about, you run into irrelevant conclusions from nowhere.

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    Honestly don't know why you let AMB drag you into these arguements lol. I mean don't get me wrong, I hate Kobe and the Lakers both, think Kobe is one of the most overrated players of all time. AMB takes it to a whole new level though, spinning all sorts of stupid to justify arguements.
    But I actually enjoy arguing with Amb ... especially calling him out on his bull . I dont even argue Kobe with him anymore. It's funny last year we were arguing the opposite as he was trying to pin the Lakers won loss record on Kobe and said we had 35-40 win talent ... when anyone could see that team was trash. Now he admits the team is trash but as of now still wont take on the Lakers on either bet. But instead is arguing semantics, comprehension etc. I find it funny ...
    Last edited by Killakobe81; 10-22-2015 at 02:42 PM.

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    Did I say Minny doesn't suck? When did I say that?

    Minny got good players but they need development. I think Minny will likely get a better record than the lakers in 2 years or so but right now? I think they suck. That said, the lakers are in the general vicinity of them, and I can't realistically see the two worst teams in the west will both have over 30 wins. I'd say both teams will win in the mid to high 20s

    Not only do you have serious comprehension issues, you have serious logical issues. Saying the lakers suck means they will have a worse record than the wolves? What kind of logic is that? It has nothing to do with anything. Which was the Spurs bet was about, you run into irrelevant conclusions from nowhere.
    Okay. I have comprehension issues and you don't ... but yet you still did not take either bet. You said you were on the fence (that means 50/50) on who will be better ... so take the bet! Fine. You did not ask for it I threw it to you as a challenge based on your Lakers feedback.

    Amb, do you only make bet with friends (oh and by now we are friends at least internet ones) you are 100% sure on? You never take bets with less than overwhelming odds in your favor?

    Forget Minny...take the other bet that Spurs will sweep the horrible Lakers ..if not then ...


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    Why does the OP just create opportunities to welsh?

    That said, I don't see how they can win more than 35 games.

    Minimal outside shooting, no inside scoring, reliant on mid range jumpers, doesn't seem to be that good defensively (everybody outside of Hibbert actually looks horrible), terrible coaching, there really isn't one thing to like.

    At least the Wolves got upside, what does the lakers have?

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    But I actually enjoy arguing with Amb ... especially calling him out on his bull . I dont even argue Kobe with him anymore. It's funny last year we were arguing the opposite as he was trying to pin the Lakers won loss record on Kobe and said we had 35-40 win talent ... when anyone could see that team was trash. Now he admits the team is trash but as of now still wont take on the Lakers on either bet. But instead is arguing semantics, comprehension etc. I find it funny ...
    Yea I don't think Kobe moves the needle either way on the Lakers win loss tbh, pretty team. He is probably going to hinder the growth of some of their young players though.

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    Honestly don't know why you let AMB drag you into these arguements lol. I mean don't get me wrong, I hate Kobe and the Lakers both, think Kobe is one of the most overrated players of all time. AMB takes it to a whole new level though, spinning all sorts of stupid to justify arguements.
    What stupid ? Care to elaborate?

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    But I actually enjoy arguing with Amb ... especially calling him out on his bull . I dont even argue Kobe with him anymore. It's funny last year we were arguing the opposite as he was trying to pin the Lakers won loss record on Kobe and said we had 35-40 win talent ... when anyone could see that team was trash. Now he admits the team is trash but as of now still wont take on the Lakers on either bet. But instead is arguing semantics, comprehension etc. I find it funny ...
    So wait, last year I said the lakers were good enough to win 35 games. This year, they lost Lin, boozer, Davis and replaced them with rookies and you said they are 32 win team, i said they are bad, maybe mid to high twenties (pretty close assessment) and you are saying I'm not willing to take a bet that they will have more wins than the wolves? What kind of crap logic is that?

    First off, my assessment of them last year and this is similar 35 vs 28 or so wins with essentially comparable players, so I'm actually on track.

    Second, you had them at 32 which is somewhere between what I had them last year and his year with mostly lateral moves of the roster. So I don't get why my predictions Are such sins against nature.


    Third, I never said the wolves had a great roster or coaching or anything, I just said they have a future. So I don't know what we are supposed to be betting.

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    Okay. I have comprehension issues and you don't ... but yet you still did not take either bet. You said you were on the fence (that means 50/50) on who will be better ... so take the bet! Fine. You did not ask for it I threw it to you as a challenge based on your Lakers feedback.

    Amb, do you only make bet with friends (oh and by now we are friends at least internet ones) you are 100% sure on? You never take bets with less than overwhelming odds in your favor?

    Forget Minny...take the other bet that Spurs will sweep the horrible Lakers ..if not then ...


    Another horrible jump in logic. Just because the lakers are bad and the Spurs are clearly better doesn't mean that the Spurs will sweep. These are pro teams and things happen, especially on a game to game basis. That's why they play seven game series to determine the better team instead of one offs.

    I can see the lakers will be one of the bottom four teams in the west (people are really over estimating the Blazers right now, they have potential to be the worst in the west) and Phoenix can end up being pretty bad if a few things fall apart for them. Wolves and lakers are terrible now.

    Besides, I don't bet. I am a mathematician and unless I have great odds at winning then it is not worth it to bet, especially in one offs because of randomness of future events. Betting without full on odds isn't chicken, it's just the smart thing to do.

    Oh wait, did you call me pussy? You just lost the argument it seems

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    So what does the lakers have?

    Or are you saying Russell randle and clarkson has more upside than towns Wiggins and lavine?

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    Another horrible jump in logic. Just because the lakers are bad and the Spurs are clearly better doesn't mean that the Spurs will sweep. These are pro teams and things happen, especially on a game to game basis. That's why they play seven game series to determine the better team instead of one offs.

    I can see the lakers will be one of the bottom four teams in the west (people are really over estimating the Blazers right now, they have potential to be the worst in the west) and Phoenix can end up being pretty bad if a few things fall apart for them. Wolves and lakers are terrible now.

    Besides, I don't bet. I am a mathematician and unless I have great odds at winning then it is not worth it to bet, especially in one offs because of randomness of future events. Betting without full on odds isn't chicken, it's just the smart thing to do.

    Oh wait, did you call me pussy? You just lost the argument it seems
    I lost how cuz you say so? Didnt you at someone else that declared himself victor in another one of your never ending battles? And you may be great at math but your excuses still smell like pussy ...but ill leave you be.

    Good luck on the season Amb. But before i go Full Force has a message for you ...

    Last edited by Killakobe81; 10-23-2015 at 07:59 AM.

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    Never said you said that directly you gave a bunch of reasons why we suck and said minny has upside ...so I asked you to bet. If you want it offer still stands ...but you can puss out its up 2 you.
    You said a bunch of things abou Russell having potential ...so I'm asking you for a bet that he will be MVP this year. If you want it offer still stands ...but you can puss out its up 2 you.

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