In 3 years, the cap will be around $120 million, at least from what I've read. Based on that Thompson would be payed ,slightly, above an average starter Kantors deal is a bad deal. If OKC keeps all of their big 3, they will have to max each one and have Kantor making around $17 per.
I don't think they had all that much leverage considering the huge jump in the cap next season and how weak the 2016 FA class is, and how much it would have pissed LeBron and his agent off if they didn't work something out to hugely overpay Thompson.
I don't care how much LeBron tweets, he isn't going to leave Cleveland because of Tristan ing Thompson. He's left once already and it would be catastrophic on his legacy to leave again empty-handed. LeBron purposely got out of the way of the negotiations for Thompson.Not really.
They basically paying Thompson to keep lebron..
too scared he'll leave again
, Thompson didn't receive an offer sheet from anyone, did he? Who were they bidding against? He let the QO deadline pass so he couldn't even threaten to leave next year.
not to worry ESPN and Nike will help out with the bill to keep LeBron happy
Remember the day when Melo signed his first max deal which was something like 5-yr 80 million. But nowadays such a deal is more like a mid-level imho.
This deal basically makes him an un-tradeable commodity. Paid like 20mil dollars too much and this is even factoring in the bump coming next season. Thompson is no more than a poor man's Charles Oakley.
It doesn't matter how much he costs - the Cavs can pay it and he makes them a better team for the next couple of seasons, which is their window. The alternative is a min contract guy. GM LeBron just making sure Gilbert pays through the nose.
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LeBron probably left Miami because they amnestied Mike Miller. Cleveland was bidding against the offer they'd have to make next summer. I agree it's ridiculous money for what he gives, but he would have gotten more next year.
But to get to next summer he'd have to hold out for an entire season, since he didn't even accept the QO before the deadline. The Cavs were in a position to scale back the contract because Thompson had no alternatives.
Lebron not having his Pop/Phil jackson most his career has arguably cost him a couple more rings..It is no coincidence the Miami stint will end up being his most successful when he was under the wing of hall fame basketball mind instead of calling the shots himself..I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he fails to bring a le to Cleveland now that decline has kicked in on top of his dodgy power trips in the organisation..
cavs shoulda lowballed him. they had the leverage.
He could have just signed a one year deal & bolted next summer.
The team and player are free to negotiate a new contract after the qualifying offer expires -- the deadline only affects the player's ability to accept his qualifying offer.
I'm aware - Thompson's initial argument was that he'd simply sign the QO and then leave next summer. With the QO expiring his only options were to sit out a whole year (and still be a RFA next summer) or to negotiate with the Cavs. So there's no reason he should have any leverage with negotiating with the Cavs given that was his only realistic option.
You're dead wrong when you say Thompson had no leverage. Sitting out the year was never a realistic option. Do you remember how pissed James was when Mickey Arison had Miami cut Mike Miller after he was an integral part of that 2013 Finals series? Gilbert has to be deathly afraid of pissing LeBron off when he keeps signing two year deals with opt outs after the first. I know I would be after he left Miami for being cheap with his teammates. Cleveland's options were to overpay Thompson now, or give him a one year deal probably around $10 million and then overpay him even worse next summer. Thompson had a tremendous amount of leverage with having Rich Paul as his agent, a huge increase in the salary coming next summer, and LeBron as his teammate. And Cleveland isn't letting talent walk after signing Irving and Love to such huge deals.
Sign a one year deal then tell the Cavs not to even bother next summer thus he would basically be forcing them to match an even bigger contract. Team didn't bother this summer b/c they though the Cavs were going to sign him outright. There are going to be a bunch of team w/ a 30+ mill cap space next summer who could use a guy like Tristan.
I am sorry but even with the cap jump moves like these will cost the Cavs a le(s). Maybe not this year and that is all that matters. But dumb moves like these means if they do breakthrough and win one this year (it may be worth it if they win) ...they wont win once James is no longer the best in the game.
What one year deal? The Cavs don't have to present a one-year deal; if he wanted that he should've taken the QO and then threatened to leave next summer. They could've offered him , say 3/48 and he'd had to either take it or think about sitting out a year, which I wouldn't see happening.
Disagree, they're different situations. Thompson wasn't going to be cut, he was going to be offered less money on a long-term deal he wanted. If he wanted to threaten to leave next year with the giant cap increases coming, he should've just signed the QO. Unless you think he's willing to sit out a year of basketball, then re-signing long-term was his only option. Even though the LeBron factor might come into play, he stayed away from the situation mostly. And if LeBron was really upset about losing the corpse of Mike Miller than he's a moron; look how fast Miami can reload. And quite frankly like I said, LeBron leaving again (especially without a le in Cleveland, again) would be devastating. I'll see it when I believe it. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for a hometown native raping the out of that Quickens got.
You think LeBron was crazy to be upset about losing Miller? Especially when he, Wade, and Bosh took paycuts to sign him? Miller was still an elite shooter in 2013-14 and the 2014 Finals could have looked a lot different running him at point when Chalmers went ice cold. And Miami couldn't reload, they were set to be in luxury tax with a CBA that killed off the MLE as we knew it for taxpaying teams. With an angry LeBron who isn't going to cut Gilbert any slack whatsoever after the comic sans letter I think Thompson had a pretty stacked deck to negotiate his deal.
Big Dummy, they NEED him for the upcoming season. Sideshow is probably good for 20 game & Love is unplayable in the 4th quarter. Are they going to waste one season of LeBron's prime over a contract negotiation for a player they eventually are going to be forced to match his 80+ mill contract?
None of that has anything to do with the one-year deal you were spouting.Big Dummy, they NEED him for the upcoming season. Sideshow is probably good for 20 game & Love is unplayable in the 4th quarter. Are they going to waste one season of LeBron's prime over a contract negotiation for a player they eventually are going to be forced to match his 80+ mill contract?
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