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    The example the article makes and some others here have made is about JJ Red taking a long time to adjust. Since I don't watch much college ball- was his release flawed?
    Yes, he had the same ing the ball all the way to your shoulder like Kawhi did coming out of college. You're going to get block of ton in the NBA doing that. He never tried to change it until this year.

    Having a mentality that you a superstar when you are no more than solid bench player will kill anyone's career.
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    90 pages over this dude
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    People were too keen to make excuses for him. I don't exactly take the article as gospel truth (Fredette looked like he tried to be a PG with the Pelicans for example), but the portrait of Jimmer that it paints was in line with my assumptions. The dude is an Anti-Green. His shot is broken because he WON'T fix it, not because he can't. Dude had a role-player (at best) skill-set but a superstar mentality. Not nearly the first guy in pro sports to have his career end because of that.
    Well, this explains why Pop waived him. Jimmer hasn't gotten over himself.
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    The example the article makes and some others here have made is about JJ Red taking a long time to adjust. Since I don't watch much college ball- was his release flawed?
    I thought it was that he couldn't defend and wasn't athletic at all. But that was before my adult life, so I don't recall.
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    Dude didn't get much of a chance hey.

    yeah, he only got all of training camp to show the coaches what he could and couldn't do.
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    Calm down, champ, i meant on the court in pre season.

    I don't give a either way, didn't even want him
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    Jabari with the usual goods


    Havent heard it, but this is a podcast for you, Jimmer fan(s)
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    Meh. Bad move by sa. Paying money to someone they couldn't fit, but keeping players that still have huge question marks....
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    Meh. Bad move by sa. Paying money to someone they couldn't fit, but keeping players that still have huge question marks....
    You guys act like it's your money.
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    You guys act like it's your money.
    And you act like the roster got better
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    And you act like the roster got better
    By getting rid of Jimmer?

    Meh, can't say it got any worse.
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    Yea, I'm sure we'll all be broken up over it when Jimmer is getting cut in China (no shortage of short, slow, shooters there) and McCallum is still just a third string that's costing us peanuts. If our season makes or breaks on a third string PG we were doomed anyway. At least McCallum can play defense though.


    No, he can't. McCallum's defense sucks balls.
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    No, he can't. McCallum's defense sucks balls.
    Jimmer wouldn't be so slow on defense if you weren't hanging on his nuts.
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    lol 91 pages. the
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    there are probably at least 10 full pages of people talking about the page count.
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    This thread is on its way to the centennial mark, here you go !!
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    Jimmer played good Defense in his last game with us. Good help defense.
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    The fact that Pop didn't even bother to play him the last couple of games speaks volumes. It basically confirms a lot of what has been said about Jimmer simply being less talented than he perceives himself to be.

    Tebow complex, tbh.
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    I know I'm in the minority but I don't agree...I think he is pretty good OR can be. That being said, he is gone and I don't really give a flip other than getting this thread to its needed goal.
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    The fact that Pop didn't even bother to play him the last couple of games speaks volumes. It basically confirms a lot of what has been said about Jimmer simply being less talented than he perceives himself to be.

    Tebow complex, tbh.
    Not really. It's business. If Jimmer gets injured, they have to keep him on the roster since his contract was guaranteed through mid-January. I honestly believe its Simmons and Williams play or lack thereof that did Jimmer in. Spurs already have Mills and Jimmer would just be another prototype 2 guard/PG like Patty.

    People forget the Spurs developed Mills for two years before he started to show something of worth.

    The fact that the Spurs signed another SF just shows you where their concern is. I think the FO as many here believed that Simmons was ready to take the backup spot as a SF/SG combo. But it was painfully obvious this preseason, he is not ready. So the Spurs had to let Jimmer go because they don't have the Luxury to develop Jimmer at this point, which I noted in one of my first posts in this thread (Jimmer being a luxury pickup to develop). Jimmer played really good D this preseason and his shot release was much quicker, yet less accurate, but a sign that he was altering his shot (which takes time).

    I don't think Pop was trying to appease anyone w/ his statement. He was stating facts, and the fact of the matter is the Spurs have a more pressing need at SF than SG/PG combo as Mills was playing lights out most of the preseason.
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    I think he is pretty good OR can be.
    You're right that I don't even slightly agree with you. But I'm setting that aside for the moment. There's a huge gap being having the potential to be good and actually being good. Getting from the former to the latter requires hard work, determination and the ability to honestly evaluate your skills and to know what you need to improve. Jimmer doesn't seem to have that. If he's not willing to work on his game, then he's NOT good enough. No one is good enough in college to be a rotation NBA player without improvement.
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    Not really. It's business. If Jimmer gets injured, they have to keep him on the roster since his contract was guaranteed through mid-January.
    That's ... that's just not a logical deduction at all. Jimmer gets paid no matter what. The Spurs didn't have to keep him on the roster if he got hurt.

    And the roster had nothing to do with it. The Spurs have like five players who can and will play the three at some point this year. They didn't desperately NEED a sixth. If Jimmer truly believes he got pushed off the roster and not just flat-out cut, I feel sorry for him. The Spurs played almost everyone over Jimmer all pre-season. They just didn't want him on the team.
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    That's ... that's just not a logical deduction at all. Jimmer gets paid no matter what. The Spurs didn't have to keep him on the roster if he got hurt.

    And the roster had nothing to do with it. The Spurs have like five players who can and will play the three at some point this year. They didn't desperately NEED a sixth. If Jimmer truly believes he got pushed off the roster and not just flat-out cut, I feel sorry for him. The Spurs played almost everyone over Jimmer all pre-season. They just didn't want him on the team.
    Let's explore the 5 players to play the 3.

    Kawhi. Will get most of the minutes. But he is prone to injuries that will keep him out at least 10 games.

    Manu. He is getting up there and will receive reduce minutes and might even miss quite a few games.

    KA. Not quick enough to guard quick SF and is more of a situational SF at this point.

    Green. Hardly ever plays the 3. He usually plays the 2 and sometimes the 1 position on defense.

    Simmons. After his preseason play, he has shown he is not ready. Hasn't even played a minute in the NBA regular season.

    So of those 5 players, Manu is 2, Green is a 2. KA is a 3/4 position player, who is too slow to guard the more athletic 3's in the league. Would you really want him to guard someone like James/Durant, etc. Guy had trouble guarding Rudy Gay.

    That makes Kawhi the only true SF on this team. Maybe you forgot how much the Spurs struggled at the 3 position when Kawhi was out last year, and Diaw, Green, Manu and KA were all on the roster and playing minutes at the position. You say its flawed logic YET history would say otherwise. Simmons was suppose to be the guy to take on the reins as the backup 3 and he has shown he isn't ready.

    That 6th Guy, as you put it, which possibly is going to be Butler, would be the only guy on the team that is a true SF. Being that the last two guys the Spurs didn't cut were SF and they recently signed another SF (which is probably for Austin) tells me that they see this position as a point of emphasis this season. And it was the Spurs biggest weakness last year, the backup SF position (apart from Parker hobbling around late in the season).

    People forget how much this team struggled without Kawhi and how much the bench struggled last year as well w/o Beli. W/O Beli, who is going to play the 2 when Manu plays the 3. Backup SF position took a big hit when the Spurs lost Beli as well this offseason as the Spurs really don't have a reliable backup 2 outside of Manu at this point. Simmons was suppose to be that new combo G/F on the Spurs roster and he looked promising after his SL showing.

    Pop comments is what makes me believe I am right along with the Spurs holding on to two SF and signing another this week. Spurs just don't have the luxury for someone like Jimmer now as they need a true SF, which they will have if Butler makes the team. Simmons just downgraded himself from potential backup to still a project player himself after his Preseason play.
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