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    House ‘Freedom Caucus’ backs Florida Rep. Webster before House Speaker vote




    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/hous...e+Raw+Story%29

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    when will boutons run for office to make america great

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    Boehner Will End His Reign Of Crises Not With A Bang But A Whimper

    It is looking more and more likely that Speaker John Boehner will stiff House conservatives and push through an increase in the debt limit with the help of Democratic votes before he steps down. It would be a fitting parting shot to end his speakership.

    If the last few years of budget brinkmanship and debt ceiling showdowns were theater, then a standalone, drama-free debt ceiling vote arranged by Boehner on his way out would be the play's denouement. It was Boehner after all, who starting in 2011, escalated the strategy of using debt ceiling votes to seek concessions on spending from Democrats.


    GOP sources are telling reporters privately that Republican leadership has conceded that a debt ceiling hike will probably need to advanced on its own ahead of a Nov. 5 deadline, separate from the budget negotiations underway ahead of the government spending deadline Dec. 11. Publicly, Boehner's aides are, at the very least, not knocking down reports there will be a "clean" debt ceiling vote and anticipating that he will "solve some outstanding issues" such as a debt limit hike.

    A clean debt ceiling vote would be rebuke to them, if not a recognition that the approach was never very smart in the first place.

    "There's never been a meaningful success in using this strategy, it's the legislative equivalent of banging their head against the wall repeatedly,"

    "The last thing they want to make it look like is that Republicans can't govern and defaulting on our obligation for the first time in history would be a major setback for Republicans,"

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/boeh...+%28TPMNews%29




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    when will boutons run for office to make america great
    your buffoon Trump is running To Make Trump Great.

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    Republican leadership prepares to cave to nihilists and make the House even more ungovernable

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    With the radical nihilists of the House Freedom Caucus gleefully turning Capitol Hill into a hostage-shooting gallery (first John Boehner, then Kevin McCarthy), a terrified GOP establishment has taken a break from begging Paul Ryan to sacrifice his career as a con artist and instead has begun trying to placate the crazies. And oh boy is this not a good idea.
    Here's the rub:

    Two Republican leaders, Cathy McMorris Rodgers and Luke Messer, just sent a letter to their so-called colleagues, promising to reform the House's rules (a key demand of the nutters) and even asking members to stuff their ideas into the suggestion box.


    But like a moderator at a Star Trek convention, you've got to be really careful before you open up the floor to just anyone. To wit: Tops on the the berserkers' list, as the letter acknowledges, is an insistence that the House follow "regular order." This is where the true danger lies.


    "Regular order" is typically something that members of the minority party demand of the majority: generally speaking, the right to offer amendments and participate in the legislative process without getting treated like the kid picked last in gym class. But here you have members of the majority hollering for their own party to stop ignoring them, damnit!

    And that's because, in order to get anything done—like, you know, not shutting down the government or defaulting on our debt obligations—Boehner's had to run roughshod over the maniacs and partner with Democrats. The whackadoodles hate that, of course, so
    they want a speaker with less power and a greater say for themselves in the legislative process.

    But these are not people you want to give any kind of greater say to. Paul Waldman nailed it:

    They seem to want to ensure not only that the next Speaker is someone disinclined to make compromises with the Senate or the White House, but that he won’t be able to even if he wanted to.

    Yet that's exactly what McMorris Rodgers and Messer are courting.
    A weakened speakership is an empowered Freedom Caucus. These people want to lead us to a thousand years of darkness, and the GOP establishment seems ready to let them.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/15/1432740/-Republican-leadership-prepares-to-cave-to-nihilists-and-make-the-House-even-more-ungovernable?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed &utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Ko s%29

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    Ryan open to running for speakership but not to negotiating with the House crazies

    We have to wonder if this negotiation is over before it starts. Paul Ryan is now saying he's open to running for a job he really doesn't want with one stipulation: absolutely no concessions to the House crazy caucus. Nancy Cordes reports:

    Ryan's confidants tell CBS News he will not horse trade with the House Freedom Caucus, a group of 40 or so deeply conservative members who have been demanding changes to House rules and other very specific promises from candidates for Speaker in exchange for their support. Ryan's confidants say he is not going to negotiate for a job he never sought, and that he has a record of conservative leadership that should be clear to every member of the GOP conference.

    This thing if far from over, as
    Erica Werner notes.

    More than a half-dozen lawmakers are considering running for speaker if Ryan does not, even as hard-liners warn that Boehner risks more rebellions if he stays on past his planned departure date of Oct. 29.
    “John is a lame duck. There was a reason John announced his resignation,” said Rep. Mick Mulvaney of South Carolina, a leader of the House Freedom Caucus. “I think Paul does have the credibility across the conference to be able to unite us, but to say he’s the only one I think is hyperbole.”

    The guy Mulvaney is calling "lame duck" is likely on the hook to navigate the discordant GOP caucus through raising the debt ceiling by early November. Shortly after that, the caucus will have to contend with
    funding the government again by mid-December. Nothing says "Happy Holidays!" like a government shutdown.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/19/1434993/-Ryan-open-to-running-for-Speakership-but-not-to-negotiating-with-the-House-crazies?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_ campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos%29



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    Ryan appears to be accepting, spewing "unified" bull and absolute lies, the Billionaire Boys Toys will him over.

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    Paul Ryan is an arrogant clown drunk on years of flatterers lying about how smart he is

    GOP Rep. thinks he's a Randian hero, but is quickly learning that even conservatives find his arrogance revolting

    After a couple of weeks of playing up his reluctance to be House Speaker, Ryan has descended from the mountain to issue the list of his conditions that must be met until he’ll deign to take on one of the most powerful political offices on the planet. The conditions include some empty, high-minded language about being a more effective party, but also a couple of very specific, presumptuous demands: That the party unify behind him and oh, yeah, he doesn’t work weekends because he likes to spend time with his family. This from a guy who happily lectures the rest of the country about how our desire to have a life outside of work means we’re lazy.

    That Ryan thinks he’s in a position to issue such haughty demands isn’t really that much of a surprise. Ryan is a major fan of the works of Ayn Rand who has said that we are “living in an Ayn Rand novel” and that now, more than ever, we need Rand to explain to us “the morality of capitalism, the morality of individualism.” Of course he imagines that he’s a Galtian superhero, the kind of man who deserves to have the unquestioning obedience of his underlings and the opportunity to spend his weekends relaxing on a boat while the lesser people have to toil away working overtime.

    Alas, the problem for Paul Ryan is that everyone who subscribes to Randian philosophy thinks the same way: That they, by dint of their self-appointed status as smarter and better than everyone else, should also be the masters of the universe.


    That’s the problem with Ayn Rand’s worldview. In order to be John Galt, you need the hordes of nameless plebes to lord your alleged superiority over. But the Republican party is made up of self-appointed John Galts. When everyone in your party believes they’re meant to be giving orders, not taking them, it’s really hard to have basic discussions, much less organize effectively to get anything done.


    The Galt vs. Galt tension exploded almost immediately after Ryan’s egocentric list of demands was rolled out. Rep. Tim Huelskamp, who leads the Tea Party Caucus, asked, “Is he serious?”


    Rep. Raul Labrador also called out Ryan for being arrogant enough to want to change the House rules, saying that if the rules are “good enough for [Thomas] Jefferson, it’s got to be good enough for Paul Ryan.” The Freedom Caucus isn’t having it, either.

    Conservative media in particular had one resounding message for Ryan: Who are you to think you’re John Galt? We’re the John Galts around here!

    Laura Ingraham and Hot Air
    both used the word “emperor” to describe how they imagine Paul Ryan sees himself. The Drudge Report hammered Ryan for being totalitarian and tried to imply he’s a secret liberal. Breitbart echoed Labrador’s talking point about Ryan’s arrogance in wanting to overturn Thomas Jefferson. Even the Fox News news vertical, which is supposed to just be for news and not opinion pieces, led the article about Ryan’s demands,

    “His way or the highway? Ryan makes big demands for speaker run.”

    The message is loud and clear: They do not like being told what to do, no sir.


    http://www.salon.com/2015/10/21/paul...w_smart_he_is/



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    Ryan is one egomaniacal, sicko mofo. btw, his "budgets" were pure bull fantasy, full of magical jokers and asterisks, except when protecting/enriching the 1% and screwing the poor

    4 Amazing Reactions to Paul Ryan’s ‘Family Time’ Request

    1) He obviously doesn’t want the job.

    Does Ryan want to be Speaker? It’s a thankless, divisive job, especially for someone with White House ambitions. So some Republicans think he’s just trying to duck out of saying no. “You know, I’m not sure he wants the job. His list of demands were so bold, they pass into almost the unreasonable,” says Kentucky Rep. Tom Massie, a fellow Republican. According to Talking Points Memo, Massie added, “I’m not sure he wants the job. I think this might have been a good way that he’s turning down the job,” then claimed Ryan was trying to “demand his way out of contention” by asking to spend more time at home with his family than past speakers. “That’s what I think. And look, I’m sympathetic to his demands. If you say that the speaker’s job now includes getting to go home every weekend to your family, I expect we’d have 50 more people that would take the job under those conditions.”

    2) Paul Ryan, hypocrite
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    Is it fair to demand quality time at home when you are spending your time at work making sure that others don’t have the ability to access mandated paid family leave? Absolutely not, says Jezebel. “[A]s the Huffington Post’s Amanda Terkel points out, Ryan’s GOP caucus blocked President Obama’s attempt to mandate paid parental leave in both the public and private sectors here in the US,” writes Erin Gloria Ryan. “We’re one of only three countries in the world that doesn’t guarantee new parents paid time off from work to care for their offspring. And we certainly don’t have any enshrined rules that guarantee fathers time away from work to spend with their 10-, 12-, and 13-year-old children. Perhaps if Paul Ryan hadn’t spent much of his political career fighting laws that promote realistic work-life balance for parents of all socioeconomic levels, asking for family time would make him look more like a hero and less like a hypocrite.”


    3) He’s totally unrealistic.


    Washington Post columnist Chris Cillizza didn’t pull any punches when he called Ryan’s request delusional. “While I commend Ryan for wanting to keep his family time protected, it’s a totally unrealistic idea,” Cillizza writes. “Without John Boehner, the party’s best congressional fundraiser by a mile, who exactly is going to fill the void for Ryan? Donors — especially the big ones — don’t want to be asked for a giant check from the guy next to the guy. They want to be in a room with the speaker. Period. Given that — and the fact that Republicans don’t control the White House, the best of all fundraising perches — it’s hard for me to imagine Ryan as speaker taking weekends (and nights) (and mornings) off and someone else just ‘filling in.’ Being speaker isn’t the sort of job you can do on your own terms — no matter the promises that people make you in order for you to take the job.”


    4) “Go work at Chik-fil-a!”


    But perhaps the best response to Ryan’s demands for weekends off came from comedienne Lizz Winstead, who took to Twitter to eviscerate the Speaker to Be. “Hey Paul Ryan,” she tweeted. “You want Sundays off, go manage a Chik-fil-A.”


    http://www.care2.com/causes/4-amazin...e-request.html


    Paul Ryan, Opponent of Paid Family Leave, Demands Congress Respect His Need for Family Time

    In 2009, Ryan voted against a bill that would have given federal employees four weeks of paid paternity leave. ThinkProgress additionallynotes that Ryan proposed cuts to child care subsidies for poor parents:

    The sky-high cost of child care in the U.S. can dwarf a parent’s income, particularly a low-income parent. Child care subsidies help defray that cost, allowing a parent to find a place to leave their children while going to work and knowing that they don’t have to rely on family members or unsafe, unstable arrangements. Without them, however, poor parents can face a tough choice between continuing to work and simply staying home because the cost is too high.

    At the same time, however, he’s often said that more poor people need to be in the workforce and combat what he sees as a “culture problem” where they don’t value work.

    http://theslot.jezebel.com/paul-ryan...ngr-1737781027



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    Did Ryan make the same demands when he agreed to run for VP?

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    LOL Republicans getting what they asked for with the teabaggers

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    LOL Republicans getting what they asked for with the teabaggers
    and the Billionaire Boys Toys of HFC may still kneecap him.

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    What a ing worthless party, can't even find someone who wants to lead their sorry asses.

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    I'm surprised Ryan is taking the job. I can't see its being anything but a career ender.

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    Paul Ryan Has Never Been Much of a Match for President Obama

    In fact, I thought Obama defanged him methodically and convincingly.

    Nor has Ryan "annihilated" any deficit skullduggery that I can remember.

    He issues his roadmaps, which no one really seems to take seriously any longer since the magic asterisks keep getting larger and bolder over time,

    and he's cut a few pragmatic budget deals with Democrats. He has a calm affect, and he undoubtedly understands the minutiae of the budget process.


    But the truth is that he's not a very effective critic of the administration.

    He doesn't rile the base like some of the tea party guys, and

    his technical criticisms don't usually amount to much.

    Partly this is because, contra Klein, Obama is relatively honest about his budget claims, which makes it hard to tear them apart, and

    partly because Ryan's own claims have lost credibility thanks to his relentless unwillingness to explain exactly what he'd cut to reach his Holy Grail of lower taxes and a balanced budget.

    Ryan's combination of conservative street cred and pragmatic approach to getting things done should serve him well as Speaker. But then, that's more or less what I thought about Scott Walker, too, and we all saw how that turned out. Ryan is going to have a tough time trying to herd Republican cats into a semblance of order. Good luck.

    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...resident-obama



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    Paul Ryan caves to a second Freedom Caucus demand, before he's even elected speaker

    Rep. Paul Ryan has agreed to delay a discussion about reforming the procedural motion used to remove a House speaker, a major concession to the House Freedom Caucus.The Wisconsin Republican, now the presumptive next speaker of the House, delivered the message to Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, the chairman of the Freedom Caucus, according to multiple sources familiar with the discussion.

    Possible changes to the so-called “motion to vacate” will now come as part of a larger discussion of reworking internal party and House rules.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/1...28Daily+Kos%29



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    WATCH: Larry Wilmore Blasts 'Total Hypocrite' and 'Completely Full of Sh*t' Paul Ryan on Family Leave

    "Paul Ryan is completely full of ," Wilmore said before playing a news clip explaining that Ryan voted against paid family leave for federal workers in 2009.

    Put simply: the Wisconsin Congressman supports "family time" for those who are rich and more work time for those who aren't.

    But, according to Wilmore, even his nominal reason for family time doesn't add up: Ryan clearly spends more time at the gym than playing catch with the kiddos.

    "The Speaker of the House doesn't need to shred his delts and burn his glutes," Wilmore insisted. "You're a dad. Be like the rest of America and be content with your dad bod."


    http://www.alternet.org/media/watch-larry-wilmore-blasts-total-hypocrite-and-completely-full-sht-paul-ryan-family-leave?akid=13599.187590.Hp8-HQ&rd=1&src=newsletter1044600&t=10

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    Paul Ryan Wants to Shut Down the Government, Permanently

    In addition to wanting to privatize both Social Security and Medicare, Ryan has indicated that he essentially wants to shut down the federal government in the sense of taking away all of the money for the non-military portion of the budget.

    The score of his plan showed thenon-Social Security, non-Medicare portion of the federal budget shrinking to 3.5 percent of GDP by 2050 (page 16).

    Ryan has indicated that he does not want to see the military budget cut to any substantial degree.

    That leaves no money for the Food and Drug Administration, the National Ins utes of Health, The Justice Department, infrastructure spending or anything else. Following Ryan's plan, in 35 years we would have nothing left over after paying for the military.

    Just to be clear, this
    was not some offhanded gaffe where Ryan might have misspoke. He supervised the CBO analysis. CBO doesn't write-down numbers in a dark corner and then throw them up on their website to embarrass powerful members of Congress. As the do ent makes clear, they consulted with Ryan in writing the analysis to make sure that they were accurately capturing his program.

    The budget wonkism of Chairman Ryan is a beautiful example of the failure of the national media to take their job seriously.

    Telling us he is a wonk, without telling us the content of his wonkism, is a bad joke which should get people very angry at the folks who pretend to give us the news.

    http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/ite...nt-permanently




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    Paul Ryan pledges no immigration reform, already bowing to the GOP's anti-immigrant wing


    Rep. Paul "no horse trading" Ryan traded a huge horse last week while trying to solidify support among House crazy caucus members for his speakership: he signed a pledge not to push a vote on comprehensive immigration reform for the remainder of President Obama's term.

    The letter, obtained exclusively by National Review, formalizes pledges that Ryan made last week in a closed-door meeting with select members of the HFC who were skeptical of his promise to maintain an “open” and “inclusive” relationship with the caucus.

    Specifically, it extracts

    Ryan’s word that he will not bring up comprehensive immigration reform “so long as Barack Obama is president” and,

    as speaker, Ryan will not allow any immigration bill to reach the floor for a vote unless a “majority” of GOP members support it.

    Alabama representative Mo Brooks wrote the letter and will enter it into the Congressional Record on Tuesday morning. He says his intention was to record the pledges Ryan made in the meeting and earn Ryan’s confirmation that the record was accurate, so he could vote for the Wisconsin Republican in good conscience come the congressional-floor election that will determine the next speaker.

    Conservative right-wing commentators
    freaked out last week after a PBS do entary exposed Ryan's quiet support for immigration reform.

    That just wasn't gonna fly in a party that's beholden to people like Brooks and the ever forward thinking Steve "cantaloupe calves" King.
    So Ryan, whom many in the Beltway hail as a principled guy, is already taking his marching orders from the GOP's most anti-immigrant wing.

    That's perfect—it keeps the House GOP caucus in lockstep with the xenophobic and racist comments of Republican front-runners Ben Carson and Donald Trump. On immigration, in particular, Carson's mostly been a self-deporter in the vein of Mitt Romney. But since Trump has made self-deportation look like a rainbows-and-unicorns stance among the GOP hopefuls, watch for Carson to step up his anti-immigrant game.


    Either way, Ryan has pledged to keep the GOP the party of "no."

    No immigration.

    No compromises.

    No solutions.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/1...28Daily+Kos%29

    Repugs love immigration as a CAMPAIGN issue to rouse all y'all racist, nativist, white supremacist xenophobes, so they'll never FIX it.

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    House extremists will give one last obscene gesture to Boehner, opposing his budget deal

    House Republicans are facing a last-minute uprising against Speaker John Boehner's budget deal, as dozens of GOP lawmakers are telling leadership they might vote against the package because of changes to crop insurance programs, and other concerns.

    Senior GOP lawmakers estimate that between 60 and 120 Republicans will vote for the package as is, leaving Democrats to supply the vast majority of votes, though the vote count is fluid at this time.

    Aides in both parties expect the bill to pass, but the number of GOP defections is a notable rebuke to Boehner and other top Republicans.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/1...28Daily+Kos%29

    Paul Ryan's gonna have a of nightmare with the Billionaires Boys Toys, and he deserves every bit of it.



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    Paul Ryan Isn't Sure How To Get The Cigarette Smell Out Of The Speaker's Office

    Former House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) may have given his successor a clean slate to start with, but he also left him a slightly more unpleasant gift: the smell of cigarette smoke.

    Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), a fan of the P90X workout, told Chuck Todd on "Meet The Press" on Sunday that the smell of cigarettes still lingered in the speaker's office from Boehner, who was known to smoke a lot.


    Ryan, who said that he thought he would be able to continue sleeping in his office as speaker, told Todd that he wasn't sure how he would get the smell of smoke out.


    "We’ve been talking about that, they have these ozone machines, apparently, that you can detoxify the environment. But I'm going to have to work on the carpeting in here," he said. "You know when you ever go to a hotel room or get a rental car that has been smoked? That's what this smells like."


    Last year, Ryan told Time that he made sure not to sit close to Boehner during meetings where the speaker might light up.


    "I try to sit as far away from him as I can in meetings that I know are going to be stressful. I just hate getting that smell in my clothes," Ryan said.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...p_ref=politics



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