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    Again, he exclusively played the four today. It really does seem like that's where the Spurs want to put him. Bonner may not be safe after all.

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    Again, he exclusively played the four today. It really does seem like that's where the Spurs want to put him. Bonner may not be safe after all.
    I'm beginning to have a nagging su ion that Bonner was never meant to make the team, and like Bowen, his final year partial guarantee is a thank you/parting gift. He's barely played at all this pre-season.

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    I'm beginning to have a nagging su ion that Bonner was never meant to make the team, and like Bowen, his final year partial guarantee is a thank you/parting gift. He's barely played at all this pre-season.
    It may have just been Butler insurance. All I know if that if Bonner isn't worried about his job, he should be. Butler didn't shoot well for most of the pre-season, but he did good things in every game. Bonner is underrated as an overall player, but Butler seems more useful at this point.

    It would be very to gift Bonner so much money this season. It counts double with the tax, and they could have just given him a cushy front-office job if they wanted to say thanks.

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    Yes. Butler earned his spot tonight.

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    I'm beginning to have a nagging su ion that Bonner was never meant to make the team, and like Bowen, his final year partial guarantee is a thank you/parting gift. He's barely played at all this pre-season.
    You are right on that. Many games also sitting on the seat of honor next to the coaches. You know, where Timmy sits when he is DNP. He didn't look good in his minutes either, not only bc he wasn't shooting, but bc unlike the other guys, he's not versatile. The team have many other options at the 4 that are more versatile than he is, and nowadays, teams just go pure perimeter on you, and Bonner cannot keep up with those guys. He's just not as useful anymore unless he was hitting that 3 at his usual elite rate, and he's not a volume scorer anyway. I have been saying for a while Bonner is done, just refuse to believe that he would be cut.

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    Fits the team like a glove. I hope he doesn't get cut while a useless scrub like Bonner stays
    I know the Spurs are loyal but why is Bonner still on the team? not trying to be mean I know people love Bonner.

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    I know the Spurs are loyal but why is Bonner still on the team? not trying to be mean I know people love Bonner.
    Because he still wants to play (his agent was getting offers from SAC), and Pop does not have the heart to tell him he's done and can't contribute to the team. His contract only being a partial guarantee though, leads me to believe some kind conversation in that fashion was had with him to a degree.

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    You are right on that. Many games also sitting on the seat of honor next to the coaches. You know, where Timmy sits when he is DNP. He didn't look good in his minutes either, not only bc he wasn't shooting, but bc unlike the other guys, he's not versatile. The team have many other options at the 4 that are more versatile than he is, and nowadays, teams just go pure perimeter on you, and Bonner cannot keep up with those guys. He's just not as useful anymore unless he was hitting that 3 at his usual elite rate, and he's not a volume scorer anyway. I have been saying for a while Bonner is done, just refuse to believe that he would be cut.
    I'm beginning to think you could be right. The guys you want to be ready need a little court time for timing and a little game conditioning - even a veteran beast like Bonner. The fact that he has barely seen the court makes me suspect it is more than Pop's just leaving the known quan y on the bench in order to see what the others could do.

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    Am I missing something, but aren't Butler and Simmons the 14 and 15 spots and won't effect Bonner being on the roster?Butler and Bonner being on the team aren't mutually exclusive.....right?

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    Am I missing something, but aren't Butler and Simmons the 14 and 15 spots and won't effect Bonner being on the roster?Butler and Bonner being on the team aren't mutually exclusive.....right?
    Correct.

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    Am I missing something, but aren't Butler and Simmons the 14 and 15 spots and won't effect Bonner being on the roster?Butler and Bonner being on the team aren't mutually exclusive.....right?
    Some teams don't like to have the full 15, if the Spurs want to keep 14, then one of Rasual or Simmons is out. Unless Bonner gets cut

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    Am I missing something, but aren't Butler and Simmons the 14 and 15 spots and won't effect Bonner being on the roster?Butler and Bonner being on the team aren't mutually exclusive.....right?
    Some teams don't like to have the full 15, if the Spurs want to keep 14, then one of Rasual or Simmons is out. Unless Bonner gets cut
    Yeah...think I was reading some post from before we knew Williams was gone...so Bonner was in the hunt for getting waived. Bonner is the Keith Richards of the NBA....he's immortal!

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    Some teams don't like to have the full 15, if the Spurs want to keep 14, then one of Rasual or Simmons is out. Unless Bonner gets cut
    I don't know for certain, but I believe it is unusual for the Spurs to go with 15. I could be wrong. But Simmons will spend much of the season in Austin again, as Kyle did last year. I think they will pick their spots to play him in SA very carefully. I hope that his making the team will relieve him of a lot of anxiety and restore some of his lost confidence. No more "trying out" in practice or games. I expect he will be able to spend more time with Manu now.

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    I don't know for certain, but I believe it is unusual for the Spurs to go with 15. I could be wrong. But Simmons will spend much of the season in Austin again, as Kyle did last year. I think they will pick their spots to play him in SA very carefully. I hope that his making the team will relieve him of a lot of anxiety and restore some of his lost confidence. No more "trying out" in practice or games. I expect he will be able to spend more time with Manu now.
    I agree, Simmons was given more freedom in the SL under Becky and it wasn't like he was going against dudes from the Y, the Suns had half of their roster there and he torched them. He's been playing like he's trying his hardest not to piss off Pop and is too passive.

    These third stringers he's playing against aren't that big of an improvement over the dudes in the Summer League. He should be torching them but it's all mental IMO

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    I don't know for certain, but I believe it is unusual for the Spurs to go with 15. I could be wrong. But Simmons will spend much of the season in Austin again, as Kyle did last year. I think they will pick their spots to play him in SA very carefully. I hope that his making the team will relieve him of a lot of anxiety and restore some of his lost confidence. No more "trying out" in practice or games. I expect he will be able to spend more time with Manu now.
    I think now that they will keep Bonner and Rasual as the 14-15 man. Later down the road, if the team is interested in a young prospect from d'league (like Ndoye for example if he's improving, or someone else) then at that point, they will make a decision on Bonner. Since he's a partial guarantee, they will not lose if he's waived at that point. That is I think probably the conversation they had with Bonner.

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    I think now that they will keep Bonner and Rasual as the 14-15 man. Later down the road, if the team is interested in a young prospect from d'league (like Ndoye for example if he's improving, or someone else) then at that point, they will make a decision on Bonner. Since he's a partial guarantee, they will not lose if he's waived at that point. That is I think probably the conversation they had with Bonner.
    Makes sense. Mattie will do whatever is necessary for the good of the team. He's a Spur...

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    I think now that they will keep Bonner and Rasual as the 14-15 man. Later down the road, if the team is interested in a young prospect from d'league (like Ndoye for example if he's improving, or someone else) then at that point, they will make a decision on Bonner. Since he's a partial guarantee, they will not lose if he's waived at that point. That is I think probably the conversation they had with Bonner.
    That does make a lot of sense Kori. I bet Bonner will be a team player per par.

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    That does make a lot of sense Kori. I bet Bonner will be a team player per par.
    Kori?

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    just bs'ing. You never know though.

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    I think now that they will keep Bonner and Rasual as the 14-15 man. Later down the road, if the team is interested in a young prospect from d'league (like Ndoye for example if he's improving, or someone else) then at that point, they will make a decision on Bonner. Since he's a partial guarantee, they will not lose if he's waived at that point. That is I think probably the conversation they had with Bonner.
    His deal is partially guaranteed until January 10th so the PATFO has about 2 months to evaluate the team before waiving him to open up a spot for a mid-season signing.

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    Butler will make the team. I guarantee.
    Does unguranteed qualify as making the team?

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    I think now that they will keep Bonner and Rasual as the 14-15 man. Later down the road, if the team is interested in a young prospect from d'league (like Ndoye for example if he's improving, or someone else) then at that point, they will make a decision on Bonner. Since he's a partial guarantee, they will not lose if he's waived at that point. That is I think probably the conversation they had with Bonner.
    Spurs keep financial flexibility with the two partial guarantees with Bonner and Rasual. The only problem is that Spurs can't call up anybody without actually waiving one of the two.

    The Spurs need more speed and both Bonner and Rasual don't seem to add that to the game.

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    Spurs keep financial flexibility with the two partial guarantees with Bonner and Rasual. The only problem is that Spurs can't call up anybody without actually waiving one of the two.

    The Spurs need more speed and both Bonner and Rasual don't seem to add that to the game.
    Bruh, you can't have your cake & eat it too. Diaw/West/Kyle/Manu/Patty have other things to offer besides a 40 in vertical.

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    Bruh, you can't have your cake & eat it too. Diaw/West/Kyle/Manu/Patty have other things to offer besides a 40 in vertical.
    Yeah, you are likely right. 14th and 15th slot, I mean the Spurs are almost 12 deep already!

    The Rockets had to keep a starter (Beverly) from having their bench fall apart against the Spurs 3rd rotation.

    The third rotation is McCallum, Simmons, Butler, Bonner, Marjanovic a lot of first teams will still have some trouble with this group!

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