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    ^Occam's razor.

    Jimmer just isn't good enough/unwilling to make the adjustments needed to play in the NBA.
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    Let's explore the 5 players to play the 3.

    Kawhi. Will get most of the minutes. But he is prone to injuries that will keep him out at least 10 games.
    Not gonna argue.

    Manu. He is getting up there and will receive reduce minutes and might even miss quite a few games.
    Yeah, he'll get 16-20 mpg, which is more than enough to help out there.

    KA. Not quick enough to guard quick SF and is more of a situational SF at this point.
    Just as quick as Butler and a better overall defender than Williams. Started at SF when Kawhi was out last year and is definitely going to get the bulk of non-Leonard minutes there.

    Green. Hardly ever plays the 3. He usually plays the 2 and sometimes the 1 position on defense.
    This is just wrong. For his career, Danny has played about a third of minutes at SF (35%). Last year, he played 43 percent of his minutes there, including many starts over the last two years. Danny, like Kawhi, guards whoever he needs to, but that includes a LOT of SFs. He checked Durant for most of the 2014 WCF. And he puts up better defensive numbers at the three than he does the two.

    Simmons. After his preseason play, he has shown he is not ready. Hasn't even played a minute in the NBA regular season.
    For a fifth option, he's not that bad. If he can't hold down that spot, he'll be cut. There's no reason to keep him around if he can't do that much.

    So of those 5 players, Manu is 2, Green is a 2. KA is a 3/4 position player, who is too slow to guard the more athletic 3's in the league. Would you really want him to guard someone like James/Durant, etc. Guy had trouble guarding Rudy Gay.
    Manu and Green have and will continue to check bigger players. Danny turned in an elite performance against Durant. There's certainly no way Pop's going to go, "Danny can't check this dude, but Reggie Williams can."

    That makes Kawhi the only true SF on this team. Maybe you forgot how much the Spurs struggled at the 3 position when Kawhi was out last year, and Diaw, Green, Manu and KA were all on the roster and playing minutes at the position.
    They didn't struggle at SF at all. Green's numbers exploded when he played the three. Dude was a fantasy darling. The problem wasn't the SF spot; it was the overall talent drop from Green/Leonard to Green/Anderson or Beli/Green, not to mention how weak the bench was with the lineups altered.

    You say its flawed logic
    Yes, your assertion that Jimmer was not played because the Spurs didn't want him to get hurt was terrible, terrible logic.

    Dude, the whole point is that Williams isn't a three anymore than Jimmer is. So you're assertion that Jimmer was cut because the Spurs wanted to go with more SF depth is weak, and the idea that Jimmer didn't even PLAY wasn't because Pop didn't like his performance is even weaker.
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    The fact that Pop didn't even bother to play him the last couple of games speaks volumes. It basically confirms a lot of what has been said about Jimmer simply being less talented than he perceives himself to be.

    Tebow complex, tbh.
    I don't think his lack of play is an indicator of his at ude or false sense of self. He never said or implied that he didn't get a fair shake, which would've supported your assertion. It simply reflects the fact that he didn't make a strong enough case to warrant PT based on his practice time. No need to assassinate the kid's character because he isn't good enough to make the team. No doubt he would've been a model Spurs player on and off the court if he'd shown enough production or potential in his time with the team.

    Wherever the kid ends up, I hope he's successful. As long as it's not against the Spurs.
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    ^Occam's razor.

    Jimmer just isn't good enough/unwilling to make the adjustments needed to play in the NBA.
    Inappropriate use of the "/" tbqh. He could be willing to make adjustments and still not be good enough to make the Spurs.
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    Inappropriate use of the "/" tbqh. He could be willing to make adjustments and still not be good enough to make the Spurs.
    Yes, it's true that Jimmer may just not be good enough. However, the comments about Jimmer's at ude come from a Yahoo article posted a few pages back. That's why Benefactor and I are talking about his willingness to adjust rather than just his ability.
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    I can only go by what I saw. And he looked better than what I saw the last two games from a lot of the other guys. I like what he can do on a pick and roll. I like that he pushed the pace and I think it is a nice change of pace from the starters. He isn't allowed to go 1-9 over 2 games like some players though. But, alas, it really is insignificant if he is not on this team. He is an afterthought.

    I do like who we just picked up. I'd much rather work with a guy who has the physical tools than not. It is different though if he doesn't work out because he isn't Jimmer. I think at a certain point all that worked for you comes crashing down on you. Hence, the article...which has a whole lotta sour grapes sound to me.

    I'm also, not of the mind that if Jimmer can't make it here he can in a foreign country. I think if it don't work it don't work for him.

    Getting closer to the goal. Game 1 is cut-off.
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    I'm also, not of the mind that if Jimmer can't make it here he can in a foreign country. I think if it don't work it don't work for him.
    If he really does have at ude problems, I don't think he'll be picked up by the best Euro teams. But as far as skill-set goes, he should be fine. Talent level is everything. Jimmer should be able to get his shot off more easily against shorter and slower players. His handles will be pretty decent for a PG. He might be able to dominate the ball on certain teams, and his defense shouldn't be as big of an issue.
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    Don't really know much about the D-league, but can Jimmer still play for Austin?
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    Don't really know much about the D-league, but can Jimmer still play for Austin?
    I think it's possible, but maybe unlikely. The Spurs can allocate four camp players to Austin; Ndoye, Sykes and Washburn seem to be locks for allocation. If Thomas is going to play in the D-League, the Spurs own his D-League rights. If Thomas goes back to Europe, it looks like Jimmer could choose to either be allocated or enter the D-League draft. There could be some arcane rule that renders this all moot, but this is my current understanding.
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    Jimmer played good Defense in his last game with us. Good help defense.
    Jimmer's defense and McCallum's are about the same; that's how bad a defender McCallum is, tbh.
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    Jimmer's defense and McCallum's are about the same; that's how bad a defender McCallum is, tbh.
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    Why won't this thread die?
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    Why won't this thread die?
    Beneath this thread there is more than posts. Beneath this thread there is an idea, Mr. Bill. And ideas are bulletproof.

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    Behind this thread there is more than posts, Mr. Bill. There is an idea. And ideas are bulletproof.

    Touche'
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    Need to get this thread to 100 pages before season starts, tbh
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    Eh, with Manu there was what, 3 or 4 years of him being overseas before coming over? I wonder where he would have gone if he didn't enter the draft until he was ready to come over.
    Manu was an automatic entry at 22.
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    Why won't this thread die?
    Who cares. Let the damn thing go to hundred.
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    Don't really know much about the D-league, but can Jimmer still play for Austin?
    ...you really think that Jimmer Bryant is going to go to the D-League?

    He'll probably test the waters overseas. As Chinook said, he should be able to play better/get his shot off against less athletic players.
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    I was at the game last night. I saw RC on the phone. Could of swore he was calling Jimmer to tell him he had second thoughts.
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    I was at the game last night. I saw RC on the phone. Could of swore he was calling Jimmer to tell him he had second thoughts.
    Or to tell him he took one of the team towels out of the locker room and he was required to bring it back
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    Need to get this thread to 100 pages before season starts, tbh
    This. I don't even know how this got beyond 7 pages.

    This is is my first post in here, just want to see it hit a 100.
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    Nah we can still get mileage out of this thread. Now to start Jimmer D League Watch 2015!
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    Paying a player to play PG who averages 4TO's to 1 Assist. Smart.
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    Paying a player to play PG who averages 4TO's to 1 Assist. Smart.
    You're going to be ing about this all season no matter how well anyone does.

    It's going to be great.
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    You're going to be ing about this all season no matter how well anyone does.

    It's going to be great.
    You must really like Ray. Cute.
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