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With Butler in, no other option to have him waived and then play for Austin.
So did Washburn get waived and re-signed to Austin? Where's he at?
With Butler in, no other option to have him waived and then play for Austin.
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I thought so. Thanks.
I've just converted from the Church of Simmons..
Chris Washburn?
Spurs have waived Washburn. I assume that's so they can sign him to D-league?
Yep, you can pencil in Washburn, Ndoye and Sykes into the Austin roster. If Thomas stays in the states he'll be there too.
Can you please explain why a player must be signed by an NBA club and then waived in order to sign with the D-league - if that is, indeed, necessary? Also, I saw a couple of names waived by other teams that I found intriguing. Terran Petteway who was a big-time scorer in college, and Perry Jones, cut by the Celtics. I'd like to see Petteway in Austin. Jones will, no doubt, land in the NBA. I wish we had a spot for him in SA. Better use of a roster spot than Bonner...
The D-league rules are complicated.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/santacruz/dleague_faqs.html
I have no expertise at all on the subject. It sorta sounds like this, tho.
"NBA Training Camp Allocations: Up to three players released from the roster of an NBA team before the D-League Draft can be allocated to that team's D-League affiliate provided they sign the standard D-League contract. They are known as “affiliate players.”
Somebody around here will know more, or at least will pretend to.
It isn't. That is only needed if you want players to go directly to YOUR team without being allocated by the league, which is the other way to get players. Pettaway will likely be assigned to Maine, if that is Boston's wish. If not, he'll go through the allocation process, and it would depend on where Austin falls in that list as to if they could get him or not.
'Thanks. So among Washburn, Ndoye, Sykes and Thomas only 3 of the 4 could qualify as "affiliate players"? Sorta seems to indicate that the Spurs must have had some idea that Thomas was headed to another team - either NBA or Euro - before they signed Washburn, huh?
Thomas has already played in Europe, and with the HUGE money differential, there was zero chance of him playing in Austin. He'll either get picked up by another NBA team, or go back to Europe to wait for another chance.
That link is a bit out of date. Teams can now allocate up to four players cut from camp.
Depends on how badly he wants to be in the US. It might help him more if he can get big minutes with the Toros and get called up. Mid-tier European money is good money, but even 10-day NBA money is substantial enough to live off for a year or two. Thomas didn't burn his bridge with the Spurs only to waste in on one TC. My guess is whenever he goes back to Europe, it'll be for good.
1) The Spurs signed Washburn AFTER waiving 3 players. That tells me that they know that one of the three is NOT Austin bound. Occam's razor.
2) Euro money is about 10X d-league money. It's easy to get $250K-$500K if you are willing to be there and can play. Both apply to Thomas.
3) This isn't 2000. Most teams actually have entire scouting staffs in Europe. He'll be seen and evaluated.
Oh, and he came to camp to either make the squad, or be a FA. He forced their hand, and now can sign with anyone who wants him, now, or down the road.
They can allocate sign four players to the d-league. And one of the waived players was Jimmer, who is much less likely to play in Austin than Thomas.
Thomas as NEVER been crazy about playing overseas. He's wanted to force his way to states since he was drafted. But he said he had a family and had to think about the money. Now he has made a good deal of money for a normal guy, so if he wants to toil in fringe of the NBA for a couple years, he can afford to do so.2) Euro money is about 10X d-league money. It's easy to get $250K-$500K if you are willing to be there and can play. Both apply to Thomas.
But he can't be called up mid-season in Europe like he can in the d-league. The quest to make an NBA roster doesn't end after missing the TC cuts. There are plenty of examples of players who've caught on after starting the season in the d-league. Green and Butler are two such cases on the roster now.3) This isn't 2000. Most teams actually have entire scouting staffs in Europe. He'll be seen and evaluated.
Yeah, and he gives up the perks of being a draft pick. The Spurs take care of their prospects unless something goes really sour between them. They pay for surgeries, work with overseas clubs to secure good landing spots and lend their coaches' expertise to improve the player's skills. It's not something to be given up lightly. My guess is that DeShaun didn't burn that bridge just to be in the same position he was in last year.
Just to flesh this out, both the team and the player have to agree to the allocation, otherwise the player can sign D-League contract and enter the draft
Sometimes players hold off on signing the D-League contract until after the draft and enter the available player pool. Then teams are arranged in some arcane order to be able to sign players in the pool. There is little doubt players and teams sometimes game the system so players make sure they end up on teams they want and that want them.
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