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  1. #401
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    point differentials are really shaky to use the way you are... i mean today the raiders were demolishing the chargers... it was 37-6 at the end of the 3rd quarter and they took their foot off the gas. but on the final scoreboard, they were only +8, which isn't an accurate portrayal of how much better they were. especially this early in the season

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    point differentials are really shaky to use the way you are... i mean today the raiders were demolishing the chargers... it was 37-6 at the end of the 3rd quarter and they took their foot off the gas. but on the final scoreboard, they were only +8, which isn't an accurate portrayal of how much better they were. especially this early in the season
    See this?

    1.NE 19
    2.Cincy 19
    3.Denver 19
    4.Atlanta 19
    5.Carolina 18
    6.GB 17
    7.Arizona 16
    8.Pitt 15
    9.NYJ 14
    10.NYG 14

    NE won
    GB/Cincy/Den had byes
    Atl won
    Carolina won
    Arizona will win
    Pitt... ed up
    NYJ lost to the higer ranked NE
    NYG won

    So only the Steelers lost to a lower ranked team.

    You do know how important Antonio Gates is to the Chargers, right? And you know about their offensive lines problems, right? Trust me if Gates was there and that line wasn't all banged up the Chargers win this game.

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    the chargers had no answer for the raiders offense. the raiders didn't punt until after the midway point of the 3rd quarter. trust me fella, the chargers weren't going to win this game. next time you should watch a game before commenting on it

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    the chargers had no answer for the raiders offense. the raiders didn't punt until after the midway point of the 3rd quarter. trust me fella, the chargers weren't going to win this game. next time you should watch a game before commenting on it
    Dude, I live in Cali ok, now what game do you think we got? Stop acting stupid, ok? Dude, the Chargers couldn't sustain drives because of no Gates/Gordon, so here comes that D back on the field, now think just a little bit, ok?

    I know I Know it's real important to you that...RAIDERS KICKED ASS...but only a rookie would miss the sad shape the Chargers were in for this game, ok, so keep it real, alright? There is a reason the Charges were favored, ok?

    Yes, the Raiders are getting better, alright? But don't get goofy and start seing things that just aren't there.

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    i didnt ask where you live. your comments just indicate you dont understand what happened in the game. thinking the presence of a TE would have made a difference? thinking rivers was struggling because of the offensive line? the raiders only had 1 sack on the day

    i dont think the raiders are all that good, i think they'll end up at 7-9 or 8-8 because they'll drop some games that they "should win." but that doesn't take away from yesterday' beatdown

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    i didnt ask where you live. your comments just indicate you dont understand what happened in the game. thinking the presence of a TE would have made a difference? thinking rivers was struggling because of the offensive line? the raiders only had 1 sack on the day
    Dude, I saw the game, ok? If you honestly believe not having your best receiver/running back and having a banged up O line didn't matter I can't help you. Let's take Cooper/Murray off the Raiders and give them a make shift line and see what happens, ok?

    I realize ya need...wow the Raiders lookled great today..but, all they dd was take advantage of a banged up team, that's what guys who know the game see, little s like you....WOW MY RAIDERS WON A GAME, YIPPPPEEE!!!!!!

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    The All Badass Defense

    DE...Deacon Jones
    DT.."Mean" Joe Green
    DT..Randy "Manster" White
    DE..John Randle
    MLB... Butkus
    OLB..Lawrence Taylor
    OLB...Bill Romonanski
    CB..."Night Train" Lane
    CB...Ronnie Lott
    Safety...John Lynch
    Safety...Jack Tatum

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    This is just too easy.

    Thank you Joe Flacco.

    Ok, plus $1140.

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    This is just too easy.

    Thank you Joe Flacco.

    Ok, plus $1140.
    Hey Avante, I'd be willing to pay up to $5000 USD to produce a porno featuring Judy and HarlemHeat37 as his black bull, tbh. You know your role.

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    Hey Avante, I'd be willing to pay up to $5000 USD to produce a porno featuring Judy and HarlemHeat37 as his black bull, tbh. You know your role.
    translation

    Hey Avante, who would be the top five Boston/NE Patriots running backs? As you know you are "Da Man"

    Here ya go got

    1.Sam "Bam" Cunningham
    2.Jim Nance
    3.Curtis Martin...more of a Jet
    4.Tony Collins
    5.Kevin Faulk

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    Ok, up $1140 after seven weeks. I always play it pretty cautious early on, the reason being teams like the Ravens, Colts, Seahawks, Falcons, because they aren't the same as they have been. And it takes a few weeks to see that. Sure ya look at historical trends but you do go deeper than just numbers.

    I only played Arizona this week, the reason being.....good team coming off a loss at home in front of a national audience. I just played a "spot". A $$$$ winning one when dealing with teams with winning records. Sure it got close because of a blocked kick but the Cards were in total control of that game. Good teams coming off a loss now at home....great "spot' to look at. Oh yeah, and the Ravens were on the road again.

    The game that jumps out at me in week 8...

    Panthers at home vs a Colts team falling apart. The Panthers at home again and are 4-1 ATS vs the Colts. And on MNF the Colts are 2-5 as a RD, the Panthers at 3-2 as a HF, that's a 8-4 trend, any time ya double up a trend, that's strong.

    I know we have a lot of punk ass kids out there who always need to act re ed when they see anyone who knows anything, So I'm talking to the serious players out there, why not learn a few things, ok? Don't fight it. embrace it.

    I will confess, it do get how some are just dying to....YOU LOST, YOU SUCK!!!!!!, while never ever...good week, good job.....hahahaha!!!!!!! So far this season I haven't lost a dime, and won't be! Up, $3240 the last two seasons right here in living black and white.
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    This is just too easy.

    Thank you Joe Flacco.

    Ok, plus $1140.
    Don't you mean, "thank you Chandler Catanzaro"?

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    Don't you mean, "thank you Chandler Catanzaro"?
    Nope!

    Flacco has 8 INT's in 7 games.

    Don't know what I'll play this week other than Panthers - 7 , and just called it in before the line moves up. 110 to win 100.

    Not smart doing this, what if some Panthers get hurt before Monday? Does happen, I'm making an exception here.
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    It's time now to start giving Newton and the Panthers some props. Surviving Seattle/Philly back to back warrants that along with their 4-0 even if vs lesser opposition. They are like Seattle in that they understand what football is really all about...RUN THE BALL...be in third and two. Run that clock give your D a good rest, which is what sustaining drives does.

    I always give things some time, only rookies freak out from week to week. Now it is time to see the Panthers as a legit contender. And...Newton is looking solid.

    My idea of a legit contender (NFC) is ending up losing to GB in GB in the NFC le game.
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    Ok, TNF.

    Pats as a HF 2-3
    Dolphins as a RD 2-2

    So that's a wash.

    Pats have owned Miami the last three in NE, going 3-0 ATS and scoring 96 and giving up 30.

    BUT...the Dolphins now have a new coach and are all jacked up right now. I think I'll pass on this one, I need more info with this new coach.

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    Ariz - 4
    Min -2
    NYJ - 1.5...this number is so small, ya can ignore the trip west.
    GB - 2.5
    Carolina - 7

    Are looking like the best bets this week, that's just at first glance (have already called in Carolina) Haven't broke it all down yet.
    Last edited by Avante; 10-29-2015 at 12:33 PM.

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    Jerry Rice saying the Niners need to bench Kaepernick, I totally agree. And somebody needs to tell this guy...GROW UP!. He's too wrapped up in kid , stuff he should be beyond in his position.

    Notice how the best QB's are kinda square?

    By the way, Russell Wilson the most popular player in the NFL if we go with merchandizing sold.
    Last edited by Avante; 10-29-2015 at 01:31 PM.

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    Is the AFC East the best division in football 2015? Not a really bad team there.

    Everyone with 3 wins or more.

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    it~!!

    Let me make this clear, I don't like the game tonight from an ATS perspective, and if I wasn't up $1140 I wouldn't play it. I can't find any reason to take NE -7.5. This will simply be a bull play just to make the game more interesting. If I win I got lucky, if I lose big deal, I'm playing with their $$$$. Yes, I'm playing with my Arizona $$$$. So I either win 200 this week or lose 10.

    So 110 to win 100, NE - 7.5.

    Not saying having Belichick/Brady at home vs a division opponet isn't a good "spot", but coming off a short week vs a tough/physical Jets team is a bad "spot'.

    Make that NE-8 as I just found out.

    Belichick 11-0 vs rookie head coachs, but that's not ATS. Tom Brady 8-0 on TNF, but that's not ATS either.
    Last edited by Avante; 10-29-2015 at 09:32 PM.

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    This is just too easy.

    Add another 100.

    + $1240

    Belichick now 12-0 vs rookie head coachs and Tom Brady 9-0 on Thursdays. Pats 4-0 ATS last 4 vs Miami in NE.
    Last edited by Avante; 10-29-2015 at 10:22 PM.

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    Miami is such a joke..

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    Miami is such a joke..
    Who was going to go into NE on a Thursday night and beat them? They have never lost a TNF game with Brady at QB.

    I'm not saying the Dolphins are a good team but they aren't a joke.

    , I was a bit reluctant to lay the points. I could see a 28 to 14 game, then with time running out the Dolphins score a garbage TD and I lose 28-21, not being that close.
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    Just another tool in your tool box.

    http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/against-the-spread/

    It's not much help until about now when we have about half a season played. It's not going to be changing dramatically unless a starting QB goes down (like Palmer did last season). Just look at the role these teams are in that particular week. No it's not the final say, but it does help.

    The second half of a season far easier than the first half. Now we know for sure, yep..Niner suck! Yep, the Seahawks aren't the same, yep, the Pats still the team to beat.

    So ya take those numbers. Check this out.

    http://www.nfl.com/standings

    Look a that difference in points scored/given up.

    Yep, pretty time consuming. ya gotta do your homework.

    Carolina + 52 vs Indy = 27, you want numbers that strong.
    Last edited by Avante; 10-29-2015 at 11:42 PM.

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    Just another tool in your tool box.

    http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/against-the-spread/

    It's not much help until about now when we have about half a season played. It's not going to be changing dramatically unless a starting QB goes down (like Palmer did last season). Just look at the role these teams are in that particular week. No it's not the final say, but it does help.

    The second half of a season far easier than the first half. Now we know for sure, yep..Niner suck! Yep, the Seahawks aren't the same, yep, the Pats still the team to beat.

    So ya take those numbers. Check this out.

    http://www.nfl.com/standings

    Look a that difference in points scored/given up.

    Yep, pretty time consuming. ya gotta do your homework.

    Carolina + 52 vs Indy = 27, you want numbers that strong.

    Your mom was a hamster and your dad smelt of elderberries.

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    Your mom was a hamster and your dad smelt of elderberries.
    It hurts doesn't it little fella, I keep winning while you keep losing.

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