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Well success has something to say about that.
exactly. I'm still pissed about that 2012 bull .
Well success has something to say about that.
Even tho Warriors are defending champs...I can't peg them as rivals. Roadblocks, perhaps...but there is no bad blood to hold against them.
A rivalry doesn't start until both teams have eliminated each other, imo. Lakers, Suns, Mavericks, Grizzlies, Thunder...those are rivalries. Rockets and Clippers both have one coming.
Doesn't look good so far. Looks just like they do whatever they want still, Donavon is just a new coach to bully.
Last I checked the Clippers did eliminate the Spurs in 2015 in cruel fashion after the Spurs swept them in 2013; both teams had the same nucleus of players in 2013 & 2015.
Good call.
Almost forgot about that 2013 series
From a media perspective:
OKC has a good year = Durant and Westbrook are GOATs
OKC has a bad year = It was a mistake to hire a college coach
I suspect lots of teams like to consider SA a rival. 5 time Champion that shat over many on the way to the top. The bigger question is, who do the Spurs consider a "rival"? Once upon a time it was the Jazz and the Lakers. --> Because they actually beat the Spurs pretty regularly at one time. Now? Not so sure. It sure as aint the Clippers. There are a handful of teams that rose up and beat the Spurs - Okc, Memphis and Clippers but none of them did so consistently. Spurs went back to the drawing board and figured how to dismantle them.
Exactly! Thread is led backwards. Wannabes are not in a position to regard perennial winners and 5-time champs as rivals.
Yup. That rookie coach in Chicago knows what he's doing though. Okc got the wrong guy.
huh? we played Lakers, GS, Grizz, Heat in 2013Good call.
Almost forgot about that 2013 series
the clips were in 2012, iirc. jazz to clips to thunder
Durant will finish the season on the shelf. I ain't worried about OKC, tbh.
It could be nice to beat them again in the Playoffs but it won't be the same without M.Barnes tbh. But beating that in a MEM series will feel great.
It's a kind of more modern rivalry with KD famously proclaiming Kawhi a "system player" in a demeaning fashion after he won the finals MVP. Bet KD bit his tongue when another "system player" in Iguodala won it this past season. Still KD is salty about 2014.
and they have guys that are still young enough to still be adding things to their game and get better. They will be around in one form or another for a long time. But the Spurs have done well against them in the past. There are no sour moments like the 2012 loss to OKC.
Did you not watch that series? Just how much of a Johnny-come-lately band wagoner are you exactly?what?
Some people have a hard time grasping how our success completely and absolutely dwarfs OKC. Yeah they look good on paper and win games, but they don't have what the Spurs have by a long shot. We are a historic team that has the 'ships to back it up. We have owned them and they are rightly obsessed with chasing our coat tails ...
SA is the dominant basketball team. OKC is dominant when it comes to flopping, influencing the refs and media attention. Unfortunately, in 2015 that can get you far...
Correct me if im wrong but they backdoor swept us then routinely kicked our until that 2014 playoff series. And despite it only going six games it was a very compe ive series.
This isn't about what team has been more successful, it's about head two head. He claimed that we curb stomped okc every year outside of that one 2012 playoff series. That's not true at all. The only team that has beat us more in that time span are maybe the rockets.
They backdoor swept us because of extremely bogus officiating that massively favored OKC. Not just the nearly dozen clear goaltends Ibaka was allowed to get away with, but the several dozen moving screens Ibaka and Perkins were constantly setting and almost never getting called for, the fact that any grazing contact by us resulted in a foul while they were allowed to play physically, the loose balls going out of bounds off OKC yet somehow it's OKC's ball, but also the phantom fouls that were being called on b2b2b possessions to give OKC 8-10 FTAs in 4-6 possessions in multiple games to keep them in the games.
Yeah, it was bull to the point you could predict when OKC was going to start getting a bunch of FTAs (literally any time they were cold and SA's lead was growing too big).
And that is the only time OKC "beat us" in the playoffs.
2013: OKC did beat us twice. . .but Ginobili wasn't playing both times, and one was a b2b ending @ OKC which the NBA likes to do to SA for OKC. . .with Manu not playing.
2014: Spurs blew them out 3x in the playoffs. Once by 28, another by ing 35. "Highly compe ive" series where SA blew their doors off 3x. . .
2015: Spurs blew them out twice in reg season. Once by 25, once by 39.
The only thing "routine" is SA blowing out OKC when the entire Spurs team is present, and OKC failing to win many games unless it's @ OKC or the Spurs are playing shorthanded.
It seems a bit egotistical for us fans to claim that there isn't a rivalry between these teams because they don't meet whatever standards we invent, or because "we say so." Both teams get fired up for each other. It's been like that for years now, and in that, both teams have halted each other's finals bids. That's enough of a reason for me to see the rivalry as a legit thing.
Not true, the Thunder is very prominent up here. I would say local talk radio is about 50/40/10 on Thunder/OU/OSU discussion.
That's why I said this year might change it. We've only met in the playoffs twice. I don't see that as a rivalry. The 3rd time, though? Now we're talking.
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