so what's the appropriate way for a cop to remove a girl from a classroom desk

[BacktoBasics]

Absolutely it's the kids fault, even moreso if her parent(s) condone that type of behavior. That is certainly not normal, and she kind of got what was coming to her IMO

You were doing fine until this post. In no logical way possible is this kid responsible for the inability of an officer to fulfill his line of duty. These types of incidents are never about the unruly individual...they're all about the people trained to protect the people around the unruly person and the actual person themselves.

You guys don't seem to understand that. There could be any number of reasons why someone, especially a minor, could be acting out. Anything from big fat brat, emotional stress within the home to something medical or even so far as previous physical trauma from something as simple as a bump to the head. Going into these situation the officer needs to reconcile the reality that he has very little to go on. The point is that the officer's job isn't to take this kid down, its to diffuse the situation so that safety can be restored and the root of the problem can be addressed by the next professional trained to do so. Whether that's a court of law or psychiatrist...etc.

The actual child instigating is a moot point. This is what officers sign up to contend with...and really sign up to protect. Even if that means protecting a bratty teen from herself.

[BacktoBasics]

even moreso if her parent(s) condone that type of behavior

For s sake do you people actual read the you post. If the parents condoned this kind of behavior its even more reason to blame the cop not the child. There is obviously some kind of mental or psychological issue that needs extensive counseling if the parents are condoning this kind of behavior. That last thing that teen needs is fear of the people who are put in place to protect them, or in this case, further abuse from them. That fear and abuse from authority would seemingly already exist at home.

Sometimes you guys just don't think things through...just like that officer.

[JoeChalupa]

Starts at home. My kids know damn well not to disrespect their teachers and talk back. Teachers should not have to discipline and babysit children's behaviors. Yes it happens but they are there to teach. Officer was out of line and over reacted, IMHO.

[mrsmaalox]

If what I read above is true, than what is you'alls solution?

Once she was asked to leave, she is effectively trespassing for failure to do so.

What is your solution?

I seriously doubt this is her first violation at the school. The lib s here complain about bad schools in less advantages areas, and this is one reason.

What is your solution, so a class can be taught instead of disrupted.

I'm fine with making examples out of people, so fewer will follow in their footsteps.

Now before you all say I'm wrong...

Look at the very first word of my post.

Why would you think that? Because she's black in a bad school in a less advantaged area?

[JoeChalupa]

All our kids teachers have our cell phone numbers and have been asked to call us ASAP regarding any issues with their behavior. We support teachers 100%.

[AmericanPsycho]

Kids have no respect for authority these days.

[Blake]

All our kids teachers have our cell phone numbers and have been asked to call us ASAP regarding any issues with their behavior. We support teachers 100%.

What do you think should have been done here in this situation, Joe?

Starting from when the girl refused to leave her seat, saying she did nothing wrong.

[Blake]

Kids have no respect for authority these days.

Kids have been the same for hundreds if not thousands of years.

[Blake]

Why would you think that? Because she's black in a bad school in a less advantaged area?

lol

[mrsmaalox]

The class disruption was caused by the teacher. As you can see, a cop throwing a kid across the room did not get much of a reaction from the rest of the class so I wouldn't think that a girl sitting at her desk texting was a huge distraction for them. Unless the teacher had to make a fuss because one of their robots wasn't following their "rules". Man the longer my kids are in school, the more I can hardly wait to get them away from these non thinking, hysterical "teachers" and their henchmen.

[AmericanPsycho]

Kids have been the same for hundreds if not thousands of years.

Not their behavior in school.

[JoeChalupa]

The class disruption was caused by the teacher. As you can see, a cop throwing a kid across the room did not get much of a reaction from the rest of the class so I wouldn't think that a girl sitting at her desk texting was a huge distraction for them. Unless the teacher had to make a fuss because one of their robots wasn't following their "rules". Man the longer my kids are in school, the more I can hardly wait to get them away from these non thinking, hysterical "teachers" and their henchmen.

No, the student should have followed the teacher's directions. If you don't want your kids following directions then do like Blake and put them in private school. There are many, many awesome teachers out there who need the support of parents.

[mrsmaalox]

I doubt it. Doesn't look like anything violent happened. He took her to the ground.

Whoop-t-do...

Yep no violence happened here. He threw a kid less than half his weight across the room. Yep, whoop-t-do.

[JoeChalupa]

What do you think should have been done here in this situation, Joe?

Starting from when the girl refused to leave her seat, saying she did nothing wrong.

That is a very good question and do I have the right answer? Probably not, I dont know the child's history. I just believe this could have been handled much better. What is the historymof the parents involvement? Why could neither the class teacher, principle or counselor calmly speak and gain the acceptance of the child the importance of taking the issue outside the classroom? Also I've seen reports that this officer had a rep of slamming other students so that may be reason other students did not display a greater reaction. As a parent I would not tolerate disprespect of a teacher.

[mrsmaalox]

No, the student should have followed the teacher's directions. If you don't want your kids following directions then do like Blake and put them in private school. There are many, many awesome teachers out there who need the support of parents.

I agree the student should follow the teachers directions. However, an awesome teacher, like an awesome parent, knows what battles to fight for the good of the rest of the family or classroom. I am pretty sure that your kids, like all others have pushed their limits on you, I know mine have on me. And I'm inclined to believe that you were a nurturing, rational, boundary setting parent (not a Nazi-esque disciplinarian) who didn't mete out "one size fits all" punishments regardless of the situation just because a rule was broken. So you gave the teacher your number----you realize that calling parents is not first line anymore? They can pretty much apprehend, detain and search your kid without calling you first, check out the handbook. The teacher having your cell number makes no difference at all legally---esp if that "awesome" teacher feels a texting violation is severe enough to stop the class and have the authorities come in to cause further disruption (remember they didn't want their class disrupted in the first place) by throwing a student across the room. So if it was your kid thrown across the room, you'd be okay because they texted?

And I gotta say your crack about sending kids to private school if you don't want them to follow directions is one of the dumbest things I've read in this thread

[Spurminator]

The football coach made my kid run laps in August until he almost died of dehydration, but it was my kid's fault because he was late to practice. Don't be late to practice if you don't want to suffer the consequences. Kids these days have no sense of punctuality.

[BacktoBasics]

The football coach made my kid run laps in August until he almost died of dehydration, but it was my kid's fault because he was late to practice. Don't be late to practice if you don't want to suffer the consequences. Kids these days have no sense of punctuality.

Yeah, yeah. What that coach should have done was puncture one of his lungs then make him run. Don't be ing late and stuff then you won't get shanked and forced to run while gurgling blood. Nothing like a near death experience to show them. No sense of authority... millennials.

[Spurminator]

If people would just follow the commands of authority at all times with no hint of resistance or disorderly conduct, we can all live in the North Korea-esque utopia so many of us long for.

[BacktoBasics]

If people would just follow the commands of authority at all times with no hint of resistance or disorderly conduct, we can all live in the North Korea-esque utopia so many of us long for.

This is great advice for all my past ex's.

[Blake]

Not their behavior in school.

so you believe there was a point in time where all kids were well behaved?

[DisAsTerBot]

Fired
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/28/us/sou...eos/index.html

[Blake]

If you don't want your kids following directions then do like Blake and put them in private school.

Wut

[Trill Clinton]

Typical "it's because she was black" response from the media/usual suspects.

When a police officer has been called to the classroom to remove you, it's abundantly clear YOU, the student, are disrupting the flow of activity, AKA LEARNING, in the classroom. Clearing the room is not the solution. You need to follow the teacher's instructions to relinquish your phone and go to detention/principal's office/etc. If YOU have let the situation reach the point where a cop is forced to remove you physically, that's on you. Regardless of your race, creed, color of skin, whatever.

Calling it some kind of hate crime/hate motivated arrest is ing absurd. GTFO of the classroom with your disruptive diva bull . At the same time, was it excessive? Perhaps. But it is ENTIRELY on the student for escalating the situation to the point that the school cop was even called into the classroom.

Typical you ignore all the racist innuendo from the usual suspects in their justification of a CHILD being body slammed and suplexed. If the cop was black and the child was a white female, I'm sure then you'd be singing a different tune. Why don't we sew videos of black cops at schools body slamming white female children? Because they know better. They know they would be crucified if they did so.

[z0sa]

That child was disrupting an entire classroom full of children, and refused to move from her seat. Something tells me the child is gonna be facing more than just this takedown from the cops in the future. I'm sure it will never be her fault for allowing situations to escalate to such extreme levels, right? No matter how ing stupid she acts, she's the victim.

That victim mentality is straight pussy , bro. Victim mentality totally. You don't wanna get body slammed, calmly walk out of the room LONG before he is even needed. Once again, it may hav been excessive, but what the do you kids think is going to happen when you are directly impeding and disrupting others. I mean this is a goddamn school room, diva. Get off your phone and learn, stupid.

[z0sa]

And for the record, I would not give any more of a about a white princess getting body slammed by a brotha at all. In fact a lot more of them exist that need that than black girls (just demographics).