The Avante betting thread

[SpursforSix]

I'm hoping I can trap him in here for good. If I can somehow get the mods to close this thread while he's posting...he'll never be able to escape.

Uh...hey Avante...can you list your top bets for the week with some great blues music you recommend while betting?
also, I'm having a hard time coming up with 500 black track starts who might have played football.

[Avante]

It's very rare that I have an opinion this early in the week about the games, I have grabbed an early line before like this week and Carolina - 7, but I don't usually play that. Always fearing.....Cam Newton pulled a hammy in practice today and is out Sunday. Now I'm stuck.

You should be doing your homework Monday=Friday, searching out "spots" to play, yep, without doing your homework you will lose your ass as you saw last week when ya went what 2-5? Notice I never have a ty week, I might go 2-3 but that's about it. Do you homework slick.

As far as them blues go, check out this one. Keeping in the gambling theme.




As far as tracksters/footballers, I got 60 days self bannishment to wager that I can list 500 footballers who did run track if just at the HS level, want to bet against me? You know about Terry Bradshaw and the javelin, right?

Did ya know that Lynn Swann was a two time Cali State long jump champion while in HS? I am the worlds authority on this topic, trust me! We saw Todd Gurley hurdling a would be tackler Sunday, cat was a 110hurdler in HS. And it goes on and on and on......

Just USC alone...

O.J.Simpson
Kareem Kelly
Earl McCullouch
Kevin Williams
Calvin Holmes
Sultan McCullough
"Jaguar" Jon Arnett
Reggie Bush
Charles White
Lynn Swann
Justin Fargas
Quincy Watts
Travis Hannah
Curtis Conway
Robert Woods
Ed Hearvey

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Jets open up as 1.5 point favorites @ Oakland

It's still crazy early but it's a pretty pivotal game regarding wildcard position jostling

[Avante]

Jets open up as 1.5 point favorites @ Oakland

It's still crazy early but it's a pretty pivotal game regarding wildcard position jostling

The Jets on the road again, not good.

Last three games on the west coast

lost 31-0 Chargers
lost 28-7 Seattle
lost 34-24 Oakland

There really is something about playing in different time zones, really there is.

The Jets are rarely a RF while the Raiders are 6-8 last two seasons as a HD, so nothing strong there.

The Jets coming off a big division game vs the Pats now flying cross country to play another road game, not good. But they are the better team. Too many...????

The Jets are + 47 in points scored/given up, the Raiders at - 9. But, we can't ignore the "spot".

I know I know, at first look it seems real obvious the play is Jets minus the number. But, there is a reason the line is that small.

I"m now curious about how teams do from an ATS perspectivre the week after playing the Pats.

[Avante]

I think I'l have some fun with this 500 trackster/footballers, thing. I'll eventually list all of them but for right now.

Texas

Herkie Walls
Fred Acorn
Marquies Goodwin
Tony Jones
Jamaal Charles
Raymond Clayborne
Johnny Jones
Eric Metcalf

Oregon

LaMichael James
Jerry Tarr
DeAnthony Thomas
Dino Philyaw
Mike Gaecther
J.J.Birden
Mel Renfro
Amos Marsh
Pat Johnson
Sammie Parker
Devon Allen

Stanford

James Lofton
Darin Nelson
Gordon Banks
Bob Mathias
Trent Murphy

UCLA

James Owens
Hal Busby
Wally Henry
Dokie Williams
James McAlister
Randall Carroll
Jim Johnson
Kermit Alexander
Rafer Johnson
Jackie Robinson....yep!

Cal

Isacc Curtis
Wesley Walker
Javid Best
Brenden Bigelow
Khalfani Muhammad

Fresno State

Henry Ellard
Tierre Sams

Arizona

Michael Bates
Paul Robinson
Rod Barksdale
Vance Johnson

Michigan

Butch Woolfolk
Bennie McRae
"Squirmin' " Sherman Lewis
Tyrone Wheatley
Todd Bell

ASU

Fair Hooker
Ron Brown
Travis Williams
J.D.Hill
Henry Carr
Michael Haynes
Johnn Henry Johnson

Michigan St

Gene Washington
Clint Jones

Texas Southern

Charles Frazier
Homer Jones
Ken Burroughs
Augustine Olobia


Florida A&M

Bob Hayes
Bob Paremore
Eugene White
Al Denson
Clarence Childs

Washington

Hugh "The King" McElhenny
Naploean Kaufman
Spider Gaines
J' Warren Hooker

Ohio State

Len Wills
Robert Smith
Chris Sanders
Paul Warfield
Glenn Davis
Ted Ginn Jr.
Corey Lindsey

Clemson

Sammie Watkins
Jacoby Ford
C.J.Spiller
James Trapp

Illinois

Bobby Mitc
Cyril Pinder
Trenton Jackson
Buddy Young

U San Francisco...Ollie Matson
Carlisle...Jim Thorpe
Long Beach St..Terry Metcalf
Texas A&I..Darrell Green
SFAustiin...Andrew Hopkins
Indiana...Milt Campbell
ND..Rocket Ismail
Northern Arizona..Michael Haynes (different one)
Villanova...Billy Joe, Frank Budd
Purdue..Larry Burton, Rod Woodson
Yale..Calvin Hill
Cornell..Bo Roberson
Abilene Christian..Wilbert Montgomey
Jackson State...Harold Jackson, Lem Barney
Wisconsin..Michael Bennett, Lawrence Johnson
U of Omaha...Roger Sayers
Marshall..Randy Moss
Azusa Pacific..Christian Okoye
West Texas State...Rocky Thompson
NWLa...Joe Delaney, Mark Duper, Victor Otis
San Jose St...Ray Norton, Ken Thomas
Maryland...Renaldo Nehemiah
Oklahoma St...Tyreek Hill, Ron Ingram, Terry Miller
Loyola..Bob Boyd
UTEP...Clyde Glosson
Colorado...Cliff Branch, Ted Woods
Iowa...Tim Dwight
Tennessee State...Nolan Smith
Middle Tennesee...Terdell Middleton

Just wait until I get to the mighty SEC.

I know.."how does he do that?"...ha~~~~~~~~

it, let's have some more.

Baker HS...Houston McTear

Oklahoma

Marcus Dupree
Adrian Peterson
Greg Pruitt

Kansas

Leo Booker
Gale Sayers
John Riggins
Delvin Williams
Laverne Smith
Ron Jessie

FSU

Warrick Dunn
Deion Sanders
Kermit Whifield
Marvin Bracy

SMU

Eric erson
Rod Jones
Russell Carter
John Roderick
Michael Carter


A lot of those guys never ran NCAA track, they were HS tracksters. Even I would be hard pressed to know their HS's.

COS..Mackinley Dillingham, John Henry Hamilton
CPSLO...Cecil Turner
TCU...Phil Epps, Kolby Listerbee....currently the fastest player in the nation.
Western Michigan..Virgil Livers
Blufton...Elbert "Golden Wheels" Dubenion
Louisville...Lenny Lyles
NEMo...Larance Jones
Syracuse...Art Monk, Jim Brown
Pitt..Karl Farmer
NCSt...Alvis Whitted
Hampton...Jerome Mathis
Miami...Santana Moss, Devin Hester
Penn State...Michael Timpson, Paul Lankford

Baylor

RGIII
Johnny Thomas
Reyna Thompson

Nebraska

Riley Washington

[Avante]

The SEC

LSU

Orlando McDaneil
Xavier Carter
Trindon Holliday
Eddie Kennison
Billy Cannon

Tennessee

Carl Pickens
Jabari Greer
Alvin Harper
Leonard Scott
Sam Graddy
Harlan Davis
Wilie Gault
Mike Miller

Florida

Jeff Demps
Percy Harvin
Chris Rainey
John Capel

Georgia

Herschel Walker
Champ Bailey
Todd Gurley

Arkansas

Lance Alworth

Texas A&M

Curtis ey
Johnny Hector

Alabama

James Mallard
Don Hutson

Mississippi

Mike Wallace

Missouri

Mel Gray

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Morgan State...Elmore Harris
Kansas State...Jordy Nelson, Terrence Newman
East Carolina...Chris Johnson
Alcorn...Donald Driver, Willie McGee
Kent State....Dri Archer, Gerald Tinker
La Tech...Terry Bradshaw

[Blake]

Because one savante thread full of re lists wasn't enough

[Avante]

Because one savante thread full of re lists wasn't enough

translatiom

How do you do that, wow!!!!!!! Amazing!

How about tracksters with the Eagles?

No problem midget.

Frank Budd Villanova a WR 9.2 and an Olympian
Trenton Jackson Illinois, 9.4 and an Olympian
Cyril Pinder another 9.4 from Illinois
James McAlister UCLA, a 27 foot long jumper.
Wilbert Montgomery a sprinter/long jumper out of Abilene Christian

[Blake]

Sad and pathetic

[Avante]

Sad and pathetic

translation

Wow! How about the NFC East trackster/footballers?

Nothing to it got.

Redskins

Darrell Green 10.08 Texas A&I
Johnny Thomas 400M at Baylor
RGIII 400hurdler at Baylor
Art Monk a 110 hurdler at Syracuse
John Riggins a HS 9.8
Bobby Mitc 9.6/13.7 at Illinois

Giants

Richmond Flowers 13.3 at Tennesee
Henry Carr an Olympic Champion/WR holder in the 200 out of ASU
Homer Jones 9.4 Texas Southern, first player to ever e the ball.
Clarence Childs 9.4 FAMU
Butch Woolfolk 9.4 Michigan
Reyna Thompson a 13.5 hurdler out of Baylor
Rocky Thompson a 9.4 cat out of West Texas State

Cowboys

Bob Hayes FAMU, Olympic gold/WR
Herschel Walker 10.23 out of Georgia
Deion Sanders 10.26 out of FSU
Terrance Newman 10.20 Kansas State

I do get a kick out of the little s ike this freak Blake, they just don't know how to act about a guy who can do this. So they end looking re ed like this .

Been into track/footbal since around 1960, obviously I'm going to know tracksters who played football also.

[Avante]

This truly is amazing, that Oakland Raiders Track Team. When I say...most countries can't compare to this....I'm dead serious.

Check it out.

Olympians

Ron Brown
Sam Graddy
James Jett
Bo Roberson

now add

long jumpers...James Lofton,Dokie Williams
hurdlers...Willie Gault, Rod Woodson
400m..Rod Barksdale, Terry McDaneil
sprinters...

Willie Gault (also)
Alexander Wright
Bo Jackson
Justin Fargas
James Trapp
Jacoby Ford
Alvis Whitted
Napolean Kaufman
Stanford Routt
Michael Bennett
Tim Dwight
Cliff Branch

[Avante]

Olympians who have played in the NFL.

Ollie Matson 400/4x4
Glenn Davis 400hurdles/4x4
Tommie Smith 200m
Bob Hayes 100/4x1
Frank Budd 100/4x1
Ray Norton 100/200/4x1
Jimmy Hines 100/4x1
Johnny Jones 100/4x1
Stone Johnson 200m/4x1
Marquis Goodwin long jump
Jeff Demps 4x1
James Jett 4x1
Sam Graddy 100/4x1
Michael Bates 200m
Ron Brown 100/4x1
Bo Roberson long jump
Larry Burton 200m
Gerald Tinker 4x1

[Avante]

How about pro footballers who have been in movies?

Joe Namath
Timmy Brown
John Matusak
Alex Karras
Jim Brown
O.J.Simpson
Carl Weathers
John Amos
Don Meredith
Terry Bradshaw
Michael Irvin
Nolan Smith
Bubba Smith
Lawrence Taylor
Merlin Olson
Rosey Grier
Jack Youngblood
Roman Gabriel
Ed Marinaro
Fred Williamson
Frank Gifford
Bernie Casey
Elroy "Crazy Leg" Hirsch
Jerry Rice
Howie Long

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Brian Bosworth
Brett Favre
Dan Marino
Tom Brady

[chunticakes]

How about pro footballers who have been in movies?

Joe Namath
Timmy Brown
John Matusak
Alex Karras
Jim Brown
O.J.Simpson
Carl Weathers
John Amos
Don Meredith
Terry Bradshaw
Michael Irvin
Nolan Smith
Bubba Smith
Lawrence Taylor
Merlin Olson
Rosey Grier
Jack Youngblood
Roman Gabriel
Ed Marinaro
Fred Williamson
Frank Gifford
Bernie Casey
Elroy "Crazy Leg" Hirsch
Jerry Rice
Howie Long

You forgot Terry Crews!!

[Avante]

You forgot Terry Crews!!

That's where you come in.

[Avante]

The All TIME NFL/HBCU

QB...Doug Williams/Steve McNair
RG..Walter Payton/Leroy Kelly/Clem Daneils/Willie Galimore
WR..Jerry Rice/Bob Hayes/Charlie Joiner/John Stallworth
TE..Shannon Sharpe

The ALL TIME NFL/PAC12

QB...Aaron Rodgers/John Elway
RB...O.J.Simpson/Marcus Allen/Steven Jackson/Marshawn Lynch
WR...James Lofton/Lynn Swann/Charley Taylor/Keyshawn Johnson
TE...Tony Gonzalez

The ALL TIME NINERS

QB...Joe Montana/Steve Young
RB...Frank Gore/Roger Craig/Joe "The Jet" Perry/Hugh "The King" McElhenny
WR...Jerry Rice/Terrell Owens/Dwight Clark/John Taylor
TE...Vernon Davis

The All TIME RAIDERS

QB...Kenny Stabler/Daryl Lamonica
RB...Marcus Allen/Bo Jackson/Clem Daneils/Mark Van Eeghan
WR...Tim Brown/Fred Biletnikoff/Clif Branch/Art Powell
TE...Dave Casper

The ALL TIME CHARGERS

QB...Philip Rivers/Dan Fouts
RB...LaDainian Tomlinson/Paul Lowe/Chuck Muncie/Marion Butts
WR...Lance Alworth/Charlie Joiner/John Jefferson/Gary Garrison
TE...Antonio Gates/Kellon Winslow

The ALL TIME NFL/CALIFORNIA

QB...Joe Montana/Steve Young
RB...LaDainian Tomlinson/Eric erson//Marcus Allen/Frank Gore
WR...Jerry Rice/Lance Alworth/Tim Brown/Terrell Owens
TE...Tony Gonzalez/Antonio Gates/Kellon Winslow/Dave Casper

Won't count Randy Moss/O.J.Simpson with the Niners for the obvious reasons.

The All TIME NFL/WHITE

QB...Joe Montana/Tom Brady
RB..John Riggins/Jim Taylor/Hugh "The King" McElhenny/Larry Csonka
WR...Lance Alworth/Steve Largent/Don Hutson/Fred Biletnikoff
TE..Jason Witten/Dave Casper

The ALL TIME NFL/COWBOYS

QB...Roger Staubach/Troy Aikman
RB...Emmitt Smith/Tony Dorsett/Don Perkins/Calvin Hill
WR...Michael Irvin/Bob Hayes/Drew Pearson/Dez Bryant
TE...Jason Witten/Jaty Novachek

[Avante]

footballers/rasslers

Leo "Lion" Nomellini
Bronko Nagurski
Dusty Rhodes
"Dirty" Murdoch
Stan "Lariat" Hansen
Brusier Brody
o Santana
Terry Funk
Roman Reigns
Ted Dibiase
Tully Blanchard
Hacksaw Duggan
Bill Goldberg
Danny Spivey
Fritz Von Erich
JBL
Junkyard Dog
Butch Reed
Lex Luger
Big Van Vader
Don Manoukian
Brian Pillman
Tom Pritchard
Ernie Ladd
Wahoo McDaneil

[Avante]

HOFers on those Lombardi Packers (the only Championship winning team with all white backs and receivers)

Bart Starr
Jim Taylor
Paul Hornung
Forest Gregg
Jim Ringo
Willie Davis
Ray Nitschske
Willie Wood
Herb Adderley

Those Noll Steeler teams.

Terry Bradshaw
Franco Harris
John Stallworth
Lynn Swann
Mike Webster
"Mean" Joe Greene
Jack Lambert
Jack Ham
Mel Blount

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

footballers/rasslers

Leo "Lion" Nomellini
Bronko Nagurski
Dusty Rhodes
"Dirty" Murdoch
Stan "Lariat" Hansen
Brusier Brody
o Santana
Terry Funk
Roman Reigns
Ted Dibiase
Tully Blanchard
Hacksaw Duggan
Bill Goldberg
Danny Spivey
Fritz Von Erich
JBL
Junkyard Dog
Butch Reed
Lex Luger
Big Van Vader
Don Manoukian
Brian Pillman
Tom Pritchard
Ernie Ladd
Wahoo McDaneil

[SpursforSix]

Olympians who have played in the NFL.

Ollie Matson 400/4x4
Glenn Davis 400hurdles/4x4
Tommie Smith 200m
Bob Hayes 100/4x1
Frank Budd 100/4x1
Ray Norton 100/200/4x1
Jimmy Hines 100/4x1
Johnny Jones 100/4x1
Stone Johnson 200m/4x1
Marquis Goodwin long jump
Jeff Demps 4x1
James Jett 4x1
Sam Graddy 100/4x1
Michael Bates 200m
Ron Brown 100/4x1
Bo Roberson long jump
Larry Burton 200m
Gerald Tinker 4x1

I think you need to add Renaldo Nehemiah to the list. Put an asterisk by it if you want to. He's been robbed enough.

[pgardn]

Man.

The diversionary tactic away from his awful picks.
Make a list.

[Avante]

Man.

The diversionary tactic away from his awful picks.
Make a list.

Ya mean my plus $2100 in 2014 and my plus $1140 this season after seven weeks? Why not admit you haven't a clue what my picks are, ok? Just won MNF with Arizona so why not cool running your ing mouth when ya don't actually follow my plays, ok got?

Hey stupid, starting right now watch how it's done ok er, learn something!

Dude, ya start with knowing how these team perform ATS in whatever role they are in that week. They will be one of 4 things.

HF...home favorite
HD...home underdog
RF...road favorite
RD...road underdog

Let's say Denver is a strong 18-2 as a HF, while Miami is a weak 4-16 as a RD, ok? That's a 34-6 trend favoring Denver, see how it works stupid? You search out "spots" where one side has all the ATS advantages, ok son?

[Avante]

I think you need to add Renaldo Nehemiah to the list. Put an asterisk by it if you want to. He's been robbed enough.

I agree, he is still considered the best ever by guys like me.

All TIME USA 110HH

lane

1.Dominique Arnold WSU
2.David Oliver Howard
3.Allen Johnson North Carolina
4.Renaldo Nehemiah Maryland
5.Roger Kingdom Pitt
6.Greg Foster UCLA
7.Aries Merritt Tennessee
8.Terrance Trammell South Carolina

The best Renaldo Nehemiah story.

He was still running at Maryland, the school was entered in the 4x2 and 4x4 relays at the PENN RELAYS. In the 4x2 he was a solid 10m down vs LSU on the anchor leg, yep, he ran down fellow hurdler Orlando McDaneil, as the crowd...WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!. Then in the 4x4 he is a solid 20m down to Villanova and their 45.5 stud Tim Dale, yep, he ran him down also, as the crowd....WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

[Avante]

Top RB's Franchise History (not just numbers)

Some honorable mentions



Cards...Otis Anderson
Niners...Roger Craig/Joe "The Jet" Perry
Rams...Eric erson/Marshall Faulk
Seahawks..Shaun Alexander/Marshawn Lynch
Packers...Jim Taylor
Vikings...Adrian Peterson
Lions...Barry Sanders
Bears...Walter Payton/Gale Sayers
Cowboys..Emmitt Smith/Tony Dorsett
Eagles...Wilbert Montgomery/Steve Van Buren
Giants...Tiki Barber
Redskins..John Riggins
Panthers...DeAngelo Williams
Saints..Duece McAlister
Falcons...Gerald Riggs
Buc's...James Wilder
Chargers...Ladainian Tomlinson
Raiders...Marcus Allen
Chiefs...Priest Holmes
Broncos...Terrell Owens
Bengals...Corey Dillon
Browns...Jim Brown/Leroy Kelly
Steelers...Jerome Bettis/Franco Harris
Ravens...Jamal Lewis
Pats...Sam "Bam" Cunningham
Jets...Curtis Martin
Bills...O.J.Simpson/Thurman Thomas/Cookie Gilchrist
Dolphins...Larry Csonka
Colts...Edgerrin James
Jags...Fred Taylor
Texans...Arian Foster
ans/Oilers...Earl Campbell