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    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...nfl-receivers/

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...l-this-season/

    from two weeks ago, but the trend still stands, tbh.

    I guess we're at an impasse if you continue to insist going from #1 options of Smitty --> KB --> Ted Ginn JR, and Cam's falling completion%, taking into account both drops and WR route skill, is uncorrleated, tbh

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    I'm also not sure how does drop rate relate to anything considering Crabtree only gets thrown to when he's wide open..
    not true at all

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    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...nfl-receivers/

    from two weeks ago, but the trend still stands, tbh.

    I guess we're at an if you continue to insist going from #1 options of Smitty --> KB --> Ted Ginn JR, and Cam's falling completion%, taking into account both drops and WR route skill, is uncorrleated, tbh
    as i said, even if we magically change all the drops to completions, his completion% is still lower, despite less yards per attempt.

    and this is even if we unfairly still count the raiders drops as incompletions

    Carr's numbers so far this year trump anything Cam has done.. even seasons with Benjamin/Smith. like i said, the sample size is small, so i'm hesitant to anoint Carr as one of the top QB's in the league. he's just been playing that way so far.

    but purely as a pocket passer? there really is no comparison between carr and newton

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    Carr isn't a rookie you moron
    I meant young....OBVIOUSLY..ya dumb .

    Hey moron tell us again about how the Raiders beat..GENO SMITH...hahahaha!!!!!!!

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    And I keep telling you nig that there's a difference between how open ted ginn jr can get vs ing michael crabtree and amari cooper, which is much more impfactful on completion % than drops

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    as i said, even if we magically change all the drops to completions, his completion% is still lower, despite less yards per attempt.

    and this is even if we unfairly still count the raiders drops as incompletions

    Carr's numbers so far this year trump anything Cam has done.. even seasons with Benjamin/Smith. like i said, the sample size is small, so i'm hesitant to anoint Carr as one of the top QB's in the league. he's just been playing that way so far.

    but purely as a pocket passer? there really is no comparison between carr and newton
    ing idiot over reacting, sheesh~~~~~~~~~~

    Let's see how ya do in Pittsburgh, ok ya ing dummy?

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    SuperCam has a point then i guess

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    SuperCam has a point then i guess
    crabtree has been good. still coincidental that he suddenly look good again when going from Kaep to Carr... just like how Smith looked great when going from Cam to "Average Joe" Flacco

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    And I keep telling you nig that there's a difference between how open ted ginn jr can get vs ing michael crabtree and amari cooper, which is much more impfactful on completion % than drops
    yeah, nice to see you "drop" the drops excuse once that was debunked... onto the next one, i guess

    yeah, the raiders have better weapons than the panthers do this year, no doubt. and as i said, Carr has been more prolific this year than Cam ever has been, even when having an elite receiver like Smith along with one of the better pass catching TE's in the league in Olsen

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    Can't Avante ever admit when he is wrong?

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    I meant young....OBVIOUSLY..ya dumb .

    Hey moron tell us again about how the Raiders beat..GENO SMITH...hahahaha!!!!!!!
    tell me more about how ryan fitzpatrick was going to impact the jets defense in the first quarter when they were still fresh

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    tell me more about how ryan fitzpatrick was going to impact the jets defense in the first quarter when they were still fresh
    Side note, ever since the bye with Latavius looking healthy, he has been fantastic. He gouged a great run defense for well over 100 and it was not on just one long inflated run either. That is a big development for your offense.

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    I like how no one wanted Crabtree in the off-season and now that he's having a great season he's considered a great weapon

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    Side note, ever since the bye with Latavius looking healthy, he has been fantastic. He gouged a great run defense for well over 100 and it was not on just one long inflated run either. That is a big development for your offense.
    murray has been as good as expected, tbh

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    Can't Avante ever admit when he is wrong?
    Dude, did we not talk Carr right here as a rookie? Do you really think I thought, come on guy. I assumed it was pretty obvious what I meant, should have known better at this place, where it would be...zoooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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    tell me more about how ryan fitzpatrick was going to impact the jets defense in the first quarter when they were still fresh
    Are you really this hard up little man, hahaha!!!!!!

    ONE MORE TIME...

    How do you think the Raiders would have done with a back up QB, well?

    Stupid, ya beat a team without a QB with a history of playing poorly on the west coast. Little man..KEEP IT REAL~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Daryl Lamonica to Warren Wells.

    Kenny Stabler to Biletnikoff, Branch and Casper.

    Jim Otto, Wilie Brown, Gene Upshaw, Art S , Marcus Allen, Art Powell, Clemon Daneils.

    Slow down ya little .

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    wow... doing anything to avoid answering the question, as usual. im talking specifically about the raiders O vs the Jets D... and you end up rambling about the raiders offensive line in the 70's

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    wow... doing anything to avoid answering the question, as usual. im talking specifically about the raiders O vs the Jets D... and you end up rambling about the raiders offensive line in the 70's
    ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMM....right over that pin head AGAIN!!!!!!!!

    The point was ya dummy.......The Raiders have had GREAT TEAMS and GREAT PLAYERS....ok ya dumb , to get excited over a team that hasn't beat a quality QB/team yet this season, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Do you understand....east coast team on the west coast....at all? Why am I not surprised?

    You play in Pitt next week, , ya get them without their stud back, ha~~~~~~~~~~~

    Slow down ya little freak, ok?

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    I think the Raiders probably finish 8-8 and possibly 9-7. Not sure how that qualified as getting over excited. As recently as last week I commented that I don't think the Raiders have a chance at Pittsburgh. I have expectations in check, but you still have to give credit where it's due. Carr's been looking like the real deal, and all along I've said the most important aspect of this season is his development, not our win/loss record.

    Our next 2 games are at Pitt then vs Minnesota. There's a reasonable possibility we drop both. If we can split those games then the playoffs become quite likely, because after that we have a bunch of easy games ( ans, lions, chargers, chiefs twice). Should easily win 3-4 of those

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    avante is still being his got self

    gonna order my carr jersey from china

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    I think the Raiders probably finish 8-8 and possibly 9-7. Not sure how that qualified as getting over excited. As recently as last week I commented that I don't think the Raiders have a chance at Pittsburgh. I have expectations in check, but you still have to give credit where it's due. Carr's been looking like the real deal, and all along I've said the most important aspect of this season is his development, not our win/loss record.
    Well then why the silliness? Do you really think the Raiders are better team than the Jets, I sure don't. And if you think losing a QB is some excuse......sheesh~~~~~~~

    The Raiders are looking better, Carr appears to have "it"......ok guy? But to have the great teams/players they have had.......well.

    Dude, are you really familiar with Warren Wells? Check out his stats sometimes, he and Daryl "The Mad Bomber" Lamonica were the originators of that vaunted Raiders vertical game. Wells a 9.4 sprinter while at Texas Southern. He was the reason the Raiders always look for track speed guys. Knowing the Raiders like I do, I can't get too excited about them.....yet.

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    Who's being silly? Youre going out of your way to not give the Raiders credit for what they've done. You blamed the jets defensive struggles on Geno

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    I've noticed a lot of you here act totally goofy over a team because....you like them, they are your team. Yep, comical to watch. My Niners are one of the greatest franchises in the history of pro football. They are 5-1 in SB's and have had as many great players as anyone. But, as of right now we totally suck, might be the worst team in the league. So? That's how the system is geared, why the bad teams draft first. I get it.

    Some of you are so ridiculous with your silliness, how about keeping it real...ok?
    Last edited by Avante; 11-02-2015 at 04:48 PM.

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    Who's being silly? Youre going out of your way to not give the Raiders credit for what they've done. You blamed the jets defensive struggles on Geno
    What have they done?

    Beat a Ravens team with 1 win.
    Beat a Browns team with no QB.
    Beat a Chargers team all banged up, with 2 wins.
    Beat Geno Smith..

    Wow, big deal~~~~~~~~~

    What do you think the Jets thought once they saw Geno come in? Come on guy, do you understand any of this at all?

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    STILL not talking about the Raiders offense vs Jets defense

    Now if by some miracle the Raiders go out and light up Pittsburg, ur just gna blame Bell

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