Obama's Legacy

[TheSanityAnnex]

Rory Cooper@rorycooper Under President Obama, Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats. That's some legacy.
6:01 AM - 4 Nov 2015


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[SpursforSix]

National debt increased over 7 trillion dollars.

[ChumpDumper]

Eternal butthurt from people like the OP is his legacy.

[boutons_deux]

And every state where Repugs dominate the govt, the state is ed up, corrupt, low-wage, low-education, financial basket case, etc, etc.

[hater]

Lol the 2 nancies above me changing the subject

[ChumpDumper]

The subject is a two term president's party has lost other offices.

Wow.

This will not be Obama's legacy. No one ever talks about like that years later, Nancy.

[Clipper Nation]

Bombed more countries than Dubya.

First Nobel Peace Prize winner to bomb another Nobel Peace Prize winner.

[rmt]

And every state where Repugs dominate the govt, the state is ed up, corrupt, low-wage, low-education, financial basket case, etc, etc.

I disagree with the financial basket case - what say you about Dem-run Detroit/Chicago? It's the Dems' state/local-run govt that's gonna have financial problems - underfunded pensions leading to high property taxes, state taxes, etc. eg. Illinois is 43.4% funded - major problems ahead for them. Not to worry, Florida and Texas are 86.9% and 82.9% - not too bad. Wisconsin is an amazing 99.8% funded.

Low-wage is relative to cost of living. Salaries are higher in Los Angeles, NYC, etc but the cost of living is so high - good luck with rent much less trying to afford a house. Yes, salaries are lower in FL and TX but cost of living is much lower - can actually afford to buy a house here. Saying that - TX property taxes are going crazy - but that's probably to pay for the education of all those illegals you have. Property taxes in FL are capped at a max of 3% per year. If only we had the tech sector you guys have - sadly, tourism is the driver here.

[rmt]

1. Iran deal - some of you think repubs are crazies - they are nothing compared to those who want death to America - so scary. Nuclear bomb is not gonna differentiate between Dems and repubs - 24 day notice is ridiculous.

2. 18+ trillion in debt - this is not even counting the unfunded liabilities for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and no, our SS/Medicare is not in some lockbox - it's ALREADY been spent. Those states that accepted Obamacare's Medicaid expansion are gonna be in trouble when the fed cuts their help - they have to balance their budget unlike the federal govt that can just print more money/add to deficit. And yes, Obama alone is not responsible for the 18+ trillion debt but by the time he leaves office, the debt ac ulated under his presidency will be more than all the previous presidents COMBINED.

[baseline bum]

His legacy is getting elected on change and instead being not too different from Bush.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The subject is a two term president's party has lost other offices.

Wow.

This will not be Obama's legacy. No one ever talks about like that years later, Nancy.

What will be Obama's legacy?

[Th'Pusher]

Preventing second Great Depression, ACA, nuclear deal with Iran...potentially the TPP.

[DMX7]

What will be Obama's legacy?

Two term president, revived the economy, got Bin Laden, yet couldn't solve the disaster in the middle east (no one can now).

[Chucho]

Good lord, Chump Dumper...I thought you were a little smarter than being a tool that divides the line based on party affiliation. Common sense is what is lacking and tools like you just say "omg Repui s rabble rabble no real argument." It's not a Repub-Demo thing, it's an objective thing. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of "this is what he did." Can't spin actions, man.

He will be remembered for doing things for Posterity's sake to cover up all the awful things he did. He's smart enough to know that by and large, the American public is stupid enough to forget most things.

Gotta love a spinster that makes people believe that he fixed healthcare. He just forced people to pay for insurance, which is just a pass to rising healthcare costs, costs that raise faster than inflation.

But for the people who look at things OBJECTIVELY, and not like a full blown tool that is too stupid and caught up in discriminating between parties, you would see:

Debt is absolutely off the scales. he spent more in a recovery than his predecessor did during a war.

Removed the freedom of choice. Promoting healthcare is great. Fining people who don't is not. Doing NOTHING to actually regulate the healthcare industry to bring costs down for EVERYONE.

Went against his own party oftentimes, to pass his agendas through.

Not once, not ONCE did he ever have his budget in proposal form on time. Bush was late once.

The Iran issue. This alone is more vile than anything anyone since LBJ has done in the office. If you don't understand why this is bad, well...it's easier to say you're an idiot.

[Th'Pusher]

Good lord, Chump Dumper...I thought you were a little smarter than being a tool that divides the line based on party affiliation. Common sense is what is lacking and tools like you just say "omg Repui s rabble rabble no real argument." It's not a Repub-Demo thing, it's an objective thing. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of "this is what he did." Can't spin actions, man.

He will be remembered for doing things for Posterity's sake to cover up all the awful things he did. He's smart enough to know that by and large, the American public is stupid enough to forget most things.

Gotta love a spinster that makes people believe that he fixed healthcare. He just forced people to pay for insurance, which is just a pass to rising healthcare costs, costs that raise faster than inflation.

But for the people who look at things OBJECTIVELY, and not like a full blown tool that is too stupid and caught up in discriminating between parties, you would see:

Debt is absolutely off the scales. he spent more in a recovery than his predecessor did during a war.

Removed the freedom of choice. Promoting healthcare is great. Fining people who don't is not. Doing NOTHING to actually regulate the healthcare industry to bring costs down for EVERYONE.

Went against his own party oftentimes, to pass his agendas through.

Not once, not ONCE did he ever have his budget in proposal form on time. Bush was late once.

The Iran issue. This alone is more vile than anything anyone since LBJ has done in the office. If you don't understand why this is bad, well...it's easier to say you're an idiot.

objectively

You're an emotional wreck.

[Nbadan]

Good lord, Chump Dumper...I thought you were a little smarter than being a tool that divides the line based on party affiliation. Common sense is what is lacking and tools like you just say "omg Repui s rabble rabble no real argument." It's not a Repub-Demo thing, it's an objective thing. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of "this is what he did." Can't spin actions, man.

He will be remembered for doing things for Posterity's sake to cover up all the awful things he did. He's smart enough to know that by and large, the American public is stupid enough to forget most things.

Gotta love a spinster that makes people believe that he fixed healthcare. He just forced people to pay for insurance, which is just a pass to rising healthcare costs, costs that raise faster than inflation.

But for the people who look at things OBJECTIVELY, and not like a full blown tool that is too stupid and caught up in discriminating between parties, you would see:

Debt is absolutely off the scales. he spent more in a recovery than his predecessor did during a war.

Removed the freedom of choice. Promoting healthcare is great. Fining people who don't is not. Doing NOTHING to actually regulate the healthcare industry to bring costs down for EVERYONE.

Went against his own party oftentimes, to pass his agendas through.

Not once, not ONCE did he ever have his budget in proposal form on time. Bush was late once.

The Iran issue. This alone is more vile than anything anyone since LBJ has done in the office. If you don't understand why this is bad, well...it's easier to say you're an idiot.

Wow....

[Nbadan]

The ACA and sadly, illegal wiretapping...certainly not what Progressives thought they were voting for in 08.....really turned out to be a wall street centrist...but at least he stopped the Roberts court from going full wingnut.. for now...

[TheSanityAnnex]

Preventing second Great Depression, ACA , nuclear deal with Iran ...potentially the TPP.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The ACA and sadly, illegal wiretapping...certainly not what Progressives thought they were voting for in 08.....really turned out to be a wall street centrist...but at least he stopped the Roberts court from going full wingnut.. for now...

Quite the legacy

[ElNono]

Positives:
- Nabbing OBL
- Shaking up the status quo on healthcare. I think ACA is largely crap, BUT, it shook up a system that was pretty darn terrible too. Hopefully something decent can be built from here.
- Will probably be well remembered by minorities (gay marriage, Ferguson, BLM, DACA, etc)
- Did pretty well with the economy considering the fest he inherited and basically a non-working Congress in his 2nd term

Negatives:
- Married to Wall Street
- Not quite a hawk like Shillary, but also not that far off
- Detrimental to civil liberties
- Spoke about inequality, did nothing about it, and only increased during his tenure

Time will tell:
- Potentially the Iranian deal
- I'm not in favor of the TPP, but it can go either way

[ElNono]

On the positives, you can also probably add the increase in Oil production and energy independence too... something that was even a campaign issue 8 years ago.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Positives:
- Nabbing OBL
- Shaking up the status quo on healthcare. I think ACA is largely crap, BUT, it shook up a system that was pretty darn terrible too. Hopefully something decent can be built from here.
- Will probably be well remembered by minorities (gay marriage, Ferguson, BLM, DACA, etc)
- Did pretty well with the economy considering the fest he inherited and basically a non-working Congress in his 2nd term

Negatives:
- Married to Wall Street
- Not quite a hawk like Shillary, but also not that far off
- Detrimental to civil liberties
- Spoke about inequality, did nothing about it, and only increased during his tenure

Time will tell:
- Potentially the Iranian deal
- I'm not in favor of the TPP, but it can go either way

Well remembered for Ferguson? I think you meant to put that in the negative column. Please explain.

[ElNono]

Well remembered for Ferguson? I think you meant to put that in the negative column. Please explain.

It's under minorities. Black folk will remember him well for his reaction to that and other black incidents.

[Nbadan]

It's under minorities. Black folk will remember him well for his reaction to that and other black incidents.

...he routinely gets 90% of the African American vote...he could kill Clearance Thomas....walk up to him and stab him in his missing heart.. and he'd still get 80%...

[Nbadan]

Nabbing OBL

Killery would have pulled the trigger much earlier....