lol, as i said, it's a really tough spot. cleveland isn't a talented team and they were on the road against an elite team. i wasnt really expecting manziel to have good production. but he's pretty inept when operating from the pocket
mccown is nothing special but he was at least competent with this browns offense. he moves around a bit too, but still does most of his damage from the pocket
Are you saying the WRs would've magically created separation and the Oline would've blocked better if McCown was in there? He's looked competent bc he hasn't faced an elite team on the road. I'm pretty sure Football looked competent and got a W last time he faced a team that wasn't this talented.
this is exactly what colts fans sound like with regards to luck and hasselbeck this year, instead of just acknowledging that luck's struggles are largely on him
the difference is mccown has a better ability to make a read and get rid of the ball quickly. that is what good NFL quarterbacks do nowadays. look and brady and rodgers... they get rid of the ball quicker than anybody. Dalton gets rid of the ball quick.
palmer is sort of a throwback, holding the ball and constantly driving the ball
Yeah, and I'm sure getting rid of the ball quicker would've made a world of difference when the WRs were severely overmatched.
I like McCown, he's had a solid year and isn't reluctant to mentor Football like that scrub Hoyer was. But it's intellectually dishonest to use his performances against weaker compe ion as proof that he would've had much success against an elite team on the road. McCown can't block for the OLine or create separation for the WRs.
Leaf 2.0's offense in the second half: 3 first downs, 32 total yards.
J'Bust
Oh and great job comparing Football's TO free performance to Luck who's main issue has been TOs. Awesome comparison.
i acknowledged twice in this thread that manziel was thrown into a really tough spot. he was exceeding (albeit low) expectations early on, and fizzled laterYeah, and I'm sure getting rid of the ball quicker would've made a world of difference when the WRs were severely overmatched.
I like McCown, he's had a solid year and isn't reluctant to mentor Football like that scrub Hoyer was. But it's intellectually dishonest to use his performances against weaker compe ion as proof that he would've had much success against an elite team on the road. McCown can't block for the OLine or create separation for the WRs.
Seriously. That franchise hasn't been good since the 1950s, over half a century ago...
i'm pretty sure it would, yes.Yeah, and I'm sure getting rid of the ball quicker would've made a world of difference when the WRs were severely overmatched.
I like McCown, he's had a solid year and isn't reluctant to mentor Football like that scrub Hoyer was. But it's intellectually dishonest to use his performances against weaker compe ion as proof that he would've had much success against an elite team on the road. McCown can't block for the OLine or create separation for the WRs.
i'm comparing struggling quarterbacks. doesn't mean they have to struggle the same way. completing 15-33 passes is struggling, and yes i know gabriel had a terrible drop. when you hold the ball longer, pressure can play a bigger role. in today's NFL, the greater qb's are the ones who get rid of the ball quicker (notable exceptions like palmer and ben). its why the pats can use a patchwork OL and still crush teamsOh and great job comparing Football's TO free performance to Luck who's main issue has been TOs. Awesome comparison.
The first NFL week in November is when we start seeing the cream rise to the top and the begin to sink, last night a good example. Now the playoff run becomes real serious.
Massive damage control in this thread. Some kids just want to cling to Johnny Rehab's nutsack no matter what.
This is assuming guys were actually open and Football just wasn't making the correct reads in a quick manner. That wasn't the case. Even when he stayed in the pocket and made quick throws the WRs were simply overmatched. Obviously there were exceptions here or there (completions, drops, and I'm sure he missed some reads too) but overall it clearly had more to do with the team being severely overmatched than with anything Football did wrong.
i beg to differ. Especially when you check the passes that he made, you can clearly see the receiver open at least 2 seconds more than needed. You could also see some passes to the TE that were just straight up missed .. The only thing that was good is that he did not go johnny jumpball all over..
I'll add something here, the browns have the second ranked offensive line in the league.
Ranked by who? Pff?
They're one of the better lines in the league but I always lol at pff ranks
i do too, but at least they have dallas #1 and seattle #32 .Ranked by who? Pff?
They're one of the better lines in the league but I always lol at pff ranks
Nice to go into Sunday knowing the Texans won't be ing up what has been a good sports weekend.
Wanted to watch Packers Panthers but Joe ing Buck has his taint on that game. Good thing Steelers Raiders is on imo
Packers games have become unwatchable over the years watching this defense
Cam Newton has to be the most annoying idiot I've ever seen. Dude acts like a complete fool after getting a first down.
Hilariously bad red zone execution by the Cats bailing out the Packers.
jags about to take first place baby
carr my
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