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    What will be Obama's legacy?
    All depends. That's why no one says what a President's legacy is while he's still president. Could be the economy, health care or the beginnings of a rapprochement with Iran and Cuba.

    Can you seriously say any other president's main legacy was his party's losing local elections?

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    All depends. That's why no one says what a President's legacy is while he's still president. Could be the economy, health care or the beginnings of a rapprochement with Iran and Cuba.

    Can you seriously say any other president's main legacy was his party's losing local elections?
    More Communist drivel from the ratcoon face.

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    Shaking up the status quo on healthcare. I think ACA is largely crap, BUT, it shook up a system that was pretty darn terrible too. Hopefully something decent can be built from here.
    Well.....employees are seeing a small to size-able increase in take home pay thanks to keeping prices affordable and yearly increases....

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    More Communist drivel from the ratcoon face.

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    More Communist drivel from the ratcoon face.
    Why don't you use your main screen name?

    It's not like it matters -- it's all content-free whining from you.

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    Rory Cooper@rorycooper Under President Obama, Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats. That's some legacy.
    6:01 AM - 4 Nov 2015


    Feel free to add to the list.
    So we should vote him in a 3rd term as the Republicans used this advantage to... to...

    Increase the numbers of Republicans in political office so that they could... could...

    Ahhh... Lose the presidency again?

    Until the Republicans actually accomplish something, anything, what the f does it matter?
    What is the Republican solution for Health Care, or, there was no problem to begin with?
    I think we could continue this list ad nauseum.

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    So we should vote him in a 3rd term as the Republicans used this advantage to... to...
    If Obama ran as a Republican he'd probably win the nomination....FAUX News would have to do a 180.....

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    It's under minorities. Black folk will remember him well for his reaction to that and other black incidents.
    His reaction to Ferguson was premature and shown to be based on a lie by his own justice department. No folk should remember him well for that.

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    All depends. That's why no one says what a President's legacy is while he's still president. Could be the economy, health care or the beginnings of a rapprochement with Iran and Cuba.

    Can you seriously say any other president's main legacy was his party's losing local elections?
    Of course people say what a presidents legacy will be while he's president, especially on a message board and especially in this thread.

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    Of course people say what a presidents legacy will be while he's president, especially on a message board and especially in this thread.
    So that's all you think it will be? The loss of local elections?

    Who else has that as the main legacy?

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    So that's all you think it will be? The loss of local elections?

    Who else has that as the main legacy?
    Don't like the thread leave?

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    Fucc Obama

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    Don't like the thread leave?
    I asked you two questions.

    Please quit being an evasive and answer them.

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    It's under minorities. Black folk will remember him well for his reaction to that and other black incidents.
    You mean for jumping to the wrong conclusions (seeing as Wilson was exonerated) and sending representatives to a criminal's funeral.

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    I asked you two questions.

    Please quit being an evasive and answer them.
    You don't seem to be having any fun, you should leave.

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    Well.....employees are seeing a small to size-able increase in take home pay thanks to keeping prices affordable and yearly increases....
    In what world are Obamacare prices affordable? Maybe for those with subsidies but for the rest of us - $1610 to cover my family of 5. What a misnomer - some AFFORDABLE care act.

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    His reaction to Ferguson was premature and shown to be based on a lie by his own justice department. No folk should remember him well for that.
    You mean for jumping to the wrong conclusions (seeing as Wilson was exonerated) and sending representatives to a criminal's funeral.
    Don't have to agree or like it, but it's undeniable that made a positive impact with certain minority. That and other alleged racial incidents. Just like gay marriage, or DACA with hispanics.

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    Two term president, revived the economy, got Bin Laden, yet couldn't solve the disaster in the middle east (no one can now).
    You mean he created even more chaos and restarted tensions with Russia. Bin Laden will not be remembered as an accomplishment, historical footnote.

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    It's under minorities. Black folk will remember him well for his reaction to that and other black incidents.
    racial issues have been as strong as they've been in 20 years under his watch though, hard to call race relations a positive

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    racial issues have been as strong as they've been in 20 years under his watch though, hard to call race relations a positive
    Personally, I don't really agree with that. I would agree he brought it to the forefront and the news cycle, and so it might appear to be that way. But the racial tensions have always been there.

    But that's exactly what certain minorities wanted, that's why i think they'll remember him for that.

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    Personally, I don't really agree with that. I would agree he brought it to the forefront and the news cycle, and so it might appear to be that way. But the racial tensions have always been there.

    But that's exactly what certain minorities wanted, that's why i think they'll remember him for that.
    minorities will typically find a way to spin events to make their brethren look better, so i dont necessarily doubt that

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    You don't seem to be having any fun, you should leave.
    Watching you avoid answering simple questions is a lot of fun tbh.

    You should leave if you can't handle it.

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    minorities will typically find a way to spin events to make their brethren look better, so i dont necessarily doubt that
    I think in some of those cases there were tangible changes... like expansion of police body cameras, the gay marriage ruling, dreamers getting work permits, etc... that's why I think it's more than just 'spin'...

    Now, some people hate one or more of those things, and obviously will be quick to forget that, but I think he made a long lasting impact in those minorities

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    Social issues and wars are typically the most remembered. He'll be remembered as the first black President, as the President in office when gay marriage was legalized, and the President who got Bin Laden. In the mainstream, he'll be remembered positively. He'll get a pass on foreign policy and surveillance until a more hawkish (likely GOP) President continues them or ramps them up, and that President will get the brunt of the criticism for those policies. That's how history go.

    Also, generally, I think people will look on the surface and say it was a pretty good 8 years for the economy.
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    I guess it'll also depend on who's writing history, or which version you're reading.

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