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    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
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    See, Hinkie is all about analytics. He doesn't even have basketball people in the draft room during draft night. Guess who's Hinkie's guy this past draft? No, its not Okafor given a chance, the best analytical mind in the business would also pick Russel over Okafor


    "Although he has remained quiet throughout the process, the common belief is that Hinkie will take Ohio State guard D'Angelo Russell with the third overall pick. Citing several league sources, CBSSports.com reported that the Sixers are interested in trading up with the Los Angeles Lakers (second) to ensure that they'll get the 6-foot-5, 193-pounder"





    The glimpse



    The backbone of the efficiency/analytics approach to offense is that the goal of every possession is to get one of three types of shots: a dunk/layup, a three point shot, or a trip to the foul line. It has been proven that these shots produce the highest level of points per possession which, simply put, is what every team wants. After all, the goal is to still score more points than your opponent.

    Look at the above tweet again. Nine of Russell’s 11 assists led to the exact type of shots efficiency hounds crave.



    The Efficiency:

    Russell had a high usage rate at Ohio State but maintained high efficiency. He ranked in the top five in the Big Ten in assist percentage, 3-point percentage and Player Efficiency Rating. His defensive rebound rate of 15.4 percent is the best of any college point guard


    His contributions to winning:

    Accounting for all of the ways that Russell contributed to his team, he added more win shares than any other freshman last season and the most by a freshman guard in the last five seasons.


    Career projections:








    So why is Okafor's stat padding being praised on a board obessesed with analytics/advance statistics?
    Last edited by RsxPiimp; 11-04-2015 at 08:30 PM.

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    I don't have an opinion on Russell, yet, unfair to criticize him right now with the situation he's been put in..

    Okafor looks really nice as a scorer, terrible as a passer, he's in a rough situation, too..

    However, to answer the question in the le, Hinkie being an analytics guy may hold some weight, but it doesn't mean as much as the Lakers' front office liking Russell, which is the biggest reason to be skeptical about him..

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    Nothing to with analytics. Russell is ungodly slow. You can't get away with being slow at the pg position in the modern nba.

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    I was pretty sure, very early in the draft process that philly considered Russell strongly, as a way to desperately make the lakers draft him. When the draft came and they took russell, I was so happy. I'm sure philly considered Russell, but strictly because they have no backcourt and they already had 2 allegedly "franchise" bigs.

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    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    Nobody gives a . The Lakers had Okafor on the table and they picked D'Angelo Jenner

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    He's playing along side Kobe.

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    Nobody gives a . The Lakers had Okafor on the table and they picked D'Angelo Jenner

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    I was pretty sure, very early in the draft process that philly considered Russell strongly, as a way to desperately make the lakers draft him. When the draft came and they took russell, I was so happy. I'm sure philly considered Russell, but strictly because they have no backcourt and they already had 2 allegedly "franchise" bigs.
    I remember the Sixers were hyping up how they wanted to draft Towns or Russell a few weeks before the Lottery. I wonder now if they were hyping up Russell as a hedge in case they didn't get a top 2 pick and fell to 3 in hopes the Lakers would be stupid enough to pick him.

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    Could it be because the Lakers are one of the worst teams in the league with one of the worst average losing deficits in the league and nobody gives a about what happened on the few passes he made that ended up resulting in points?

    He's playing for the Lol-kers. Their entire games are pretty much "garbage time" since they give up so many points, yet he still can't crack 3 APG and 3/4ths of the time shoots under 31%.

    Also I just looked up the Lakers' team stats. Speaking of advanced stats, of all Lakers, who has BOTH the lowest offense and defensive ratings on the team of anyone playing 20+ MPG? Russell.

    You really cherry-picked an obscure stat there tbh.

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    He's going to be an elite player.

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    Could it be because the Lakers are one of the worst teams in the league with one of the worst average losing deficits in the league and nobody gives a about what happened on the few passes he made that ended up resulting in points?

    He's playing for the Lol-kers. Their entire games are pretty much "garbage time" since they give up so many points, yet he still can't crack 3 APG and 3/4ths of the time shoots under 31%.

    Also I just looked up the Lakers' team stats. Speaking of advanced stats, of all Lakers, who has BOTH the lowest offense and defensive ratings on the team of anyone playing 20+ MPG? Russell.

    You really cherry-picked an obscure stat there tbh.

    Care to share how Lamarsha is doing.

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    He's going to be an elite player.

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    Could it be because the Lakers are one of the worst teams in the league with one of the worst average losing deficits in the league and nobody gives a about what happened on the few passes he made that ended up resulting in points?

    He's playing for the Lol-kers. Their entire games are pretty much "garbage time" since they give up so many points, yet he still can't crack 3 APG and 3/4ths of the time shoots under 31%.

    Also I just looked up the Lakers' team stats. Speaking of advanced stats, of all Lakers, who has BOTH the lowest offense and defensive ratings on the team of anyone playing 20+ MPG? Russell.

    You really cherry-picked an obscure stat there tbh.
    They had no need for another PF with Embiid. Just so happens he's injury prone and they were forced to pick Okafor. If they had the second pick they would have drafted Russell. We had no need for Okafor because we have a stud in Randle. Randle has more upside than Okafor. Okafor has a better post game and that's it. Randle will be a force. I have to admit... I'm glad Okafor is proving his doubters wrong. He's taking care of business. Russell is two seasons away from being the player I expect him to be, which is a Bibby with insane court vision.

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    Give him some time.

    Everyone expects results NOW

    in a way, bigs have it easier because its easier to rebound and block and be a presence imo. guards you gotta work harder

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    Give him some time.

    Everyone expects results NOW

    in a way, bigs have it easier because its easier to rebound and block and be a presence imo. guards you gotta work harder
    it's really not about the production..

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    Nobody gives a . The Lakers had Okafor on the table and they picked D'Angelo Jenner

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    it's really not about the production..
    Of course it is. People are trashing the Lakers choice because Okafor solidly putting up offensive numbers. Though his rebounding is a turn off, 5.6 RPG is quite awful

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    Nobody gives a . The Lakers had Okafor on the table and they picked D'Angelo Jenner
    I'm just gonna call that niqqer D'jango Bustle

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    Because Okafor is better.

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    Of course it is. People are trashing the Lakers choice because Okafor solidly putting up offensive numbers. Though his rebounding is a turn off, 5.6 RPG is quite awful
    it's not about the production, it's about the upside. D-bust has clearly shown that he has a very low ceiling, being too slow and unathletic to impact both offense or defense. Sure he may develop a reliable jumper but really there's not much difference between him and jimmer. His passing vision was also massively overblown. If Kendall Marshall can't be a good player in the league, I don't see a scenario where d-bust could.

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    He's going to be an elite player.
    like Livingston

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    I'm just gonna call that niqqer D'jango Bustle
    That's not what you were calling him a few months ago...



    Not trying to trash the Spurs at all...Tbh....as an individual player D-aJango is also better than Duncan....tbh....


    The spurs are just old as ...

    This kid is like Magic Johnson....I have hopes he will contribute first season like Magic did....I expect him to be an Allstar this season....he should be taking someones spot tbh....

    I didnt say he was better than Magic but he will be a Magic type player..he's big and passing is his specialty....he shoots it at a higher clip than Magic...he controls the offense..the pace and flow....he sees the game in a different speed which is what you need if you're going for GOAT status

    Check with a few Laker fans..the Okafer thing was nothing but a troll Job on Spur fan...i sent them a PM telling them I was gonna do it....Russell or Towns were my guys..I just happen to think Russell will end up ting all over Okafer and Towns tbh...Russell is better than Towns

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    Lakers have become the Knicks,,,,

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    They had no need for another PF with Embiid. Just so happens he's injury prone and they were forced to pick Okafor. If they had the second pick they would have drafted Russell. We had no need for Okafor because we have a stud in Randle. Randle has more upside than Okafor. Okafor has a better post game and that's it. Randle will be a force. I have to admit... I'm glad Okafor is proving his doubters wrong. He's taking care of business. Russell is two seasons away from being the player I expect him to be, which is a Bibby with insane court vision.
    Bibby had insane court vision tbh. Really underrated player imo


    Care to share how Lamarsha is doing.
    Pretty decent so far, thanks for asking

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    Like we woulda been so much better off with Okafor's soft ass. We already got one rookie big who can't defend worth a in Randle.

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