He's been playing worse than ayres before the game vs the hornets, no joke. Welcome to the Spurs David West
His defense is horrible. He had no idea what to do but he wasn't brought here to be a defensive big. He just needs to be part of the bench that blitz the opponents bench to build leads or cut deficits. If he does what he did tonight which is shoot the open pick and pop and find cutters after he gets the ball in the high post with the occasional post up on mismatches then he'll be an extremely effective player.
I would like to see his highlights. Hope someone on YT posts them.
As long as Manu stays healthy, that bench is going to be an absolute terror. Only caveat is they lack a defensive SF and some size upfront (unless Boban starts getting more minutes), but they attack you from all angles offensively.
Good showing offensively. Defensively he still has some things to figure out, but no matter what, he can not play C effectively even in stretches. If his midrange is working and he moves the ball like yesterday, he'll be more than worth his min salary.
The SF shouldn't be a huge problem (unless Manu gets hurt like you said) and Pop will probably play Danny with that unit in games that matter which makes it an even deadlier lineupe tbh.
Where would this team be without this rejuvenated Ginobili, tbh?not only the bench, it seems we are going to need him to bail out some guy like it is 2005 all over again..
Was at the game last night - unbelievable 3rd quarter into the 4th.
West was really working to keep the ball moving on offense and he looked a lot more comfortable.
The bench bailed out the starters AGAIN for the most part.
Kobester could only wish to be as effective as Manu Ginobili is right now at 38 years old. Manu can't go full bore for 30-35 minutes like he used to, but as an off the bench player he is the guy that makes the Spurs so hard to defend as he gets the ball moving all over the court and juices up his teammates. He was simply special out there last night.Where would this team be without this rejuvenated Ginobili, tbh?
Most of the so-called "Star" guards of today (Curry, Hardin, Paul) will not have anywhere close to the long term staying power of Manu. They may have better individual seasons by way of stats, but the combination of what Manu does in his late 30s and how he helps the Spurs win they will not be able to deliver as well.
He didn't come here for the money. So happy to see him contribute like that last night.
I don't know wtf Manu did this offseason, but he he looks great. And the way he's playing right now, I don't see any reason why he can't do this all season.
Last edited by DarrinS; 11-08-2015 at 12:54 PM.
Not as done as Porker
I have to wonder if some of you ever watched David West play before. Or if you saw him at all last season?
West is one of those guys you hate if he's on an opposing team, and (should) love if he's on yours. He's tough, and he plays physical. Not dirty, but hard. He's the closest thing to Mario Elie toughness I remember being in a Spurs jersey since Mario Elie.
The comments about him not playing defense sort of made me smile. People forget the troubles he's given the Spurs on that end in the past. This whole thread reminds me of the year everyone said that Derek Fisher was done, and that he couldn't play ANY defense - and then he came out and just kicked the Spurs' asses with his defense.
Don't base too much on what happened on that damaged Pacers team the last couple of years. West has a lot of gas in the tank, and he'll be one of the players getting minutes in the playoffs. He started all of the 66 games he played in last season, averaged about 29 minutes, and still put up respectable numbers on a team that just didn't play together as a unit. There's absolutely no reason for all the speculation that he's worn out. He isn't. New players always need some time to find their way on the Spurs. Unlike guys like Hedo Turkoglu, I believe West will fully fit in by mid-season at least.
They say he lifted weights to gain strength.
Got my fingers crossed that Manu is going to copy Stephen Curry's quick 3 point release. I don't recall Manu making 3 3pointers in a row in a very long time. Also note that he's not thinking anymore when he takes the shot, he just lets it fly.
Very early in their Spurs careers, Tony was the point guard who couldn't pass and Manu was the shooting guard who couldn't shoot. Manu has come a long way with his outside shot since then.
West finishes with 8 points and 6 boards. For all the talk tonight about his inability to rebound, he finished with the same number of boards as Koufos, who's a 7-footer. Their other 7-footer, Cauley-Stein, also had 6 boards. West was 4-5 from the floor, and those two guys together were 3-5.
I'm not saying he'll make the All Star team, but he's sure as not "done". And if he gets this kind of production come playoff time (and he will) the Spurs will be damned lucky to have him on the roster.
Also, he had a tough matchup battling with Cousins...and the refs.
For a 4th big, we can do a lot worse than West. He's looked a lot better these past 2-3 games. Plus it's really hard to not like a guy that gave up so much money for an opportunity to play here.
Another solid outing for West
You still credibly can't play him with Diaw, during that stretch they were both murdered, had trouble rebounding, and SAC scored in the paint with relative ease, and the game was close. Diaw actually plays better position defense contesting shots at the rim bc he anticipates and rotates early. West is pretty solid though, but the Diaw/West pairing I am sure overall has not been a +.
I don't like that pairing, either. I'd like to see Diaw play more with LMA and Tim with West.
Will be our Speights. His mid range shots are deadly, and his passing is phenomenal for the second big off the bench. Glad he's on the team
I haven't caughgt much of the last few games. Are they staggering one of diaw or west with LMA/tim?
Yesterdays game was an exception because our bench was going ape . But West still usually plays most his minutes with Diaw
Crazy that many nights our bench will be better than our starters. Don't think any other top 5 team can say this
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