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    Comparing Anderson an Butler isn't fair. Andersen is the type of player that needs the ball in his hands to create to be effective. Butler is effective because he doesn't. If Pop let Anderson run the offense, I'm sure we'd see a much different Anderson.
    I like Anderson probably more than anyone at least publicly. I am like the preacher of the Church of Anderson, but he has to earn the right to be delegated more and get a larger role, which realistically it will not happen this year. Even a guy as talented as Kawhi had the offense given to him in his 4th year, and lets make a mental note of the fact that he struggled with that role initially as is expected... Not saying he sucked or anything (far from it), but as you would expect, it takes some adapting from everyone, and he's been much better and more consistent this year, than he was the last.

    For Anderson to earn the role of point forward for the second unit, where he would truly shine, he has to be better and for him to get better he needs some playing time, which is where he's at. He's got to continue to pound the rock and be ready for when his opportunities come.

    Some people will never like him until he comes into his own, and even then, they may not like him. He's kind of an acquired taste. I like him because I see the potential of what he could be for the team, which is not where he's at right now, but we'll see. It will be entertaining to watch him develop TBH.

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    Needs to continue getting his mins and take all of Anderson's.

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    Anderson is doing better than most people are giving him credit.

    Even in the first game against OKC, his... intelligent defense stymied a few plays.

    And this last game, he should have had 2 blocks and a couple steals.

    I see the herky jerky in his game... the change of pace, which is a powerful weapon to have, especially as a playmaker.

    It's like when a QB looks away to confuse the coverage, and then throwing to the man he wanted to all along, that is now wide open.

    His shooting isn't there yet.

    And he's so hyped up... once he is able to relax a little those shots will be smoother and start going down.

    I really like his skill set and potential versatility...

    As for Rasual... except for the 3 point shooting, he's been all that we could ask for and more.

    Sometimes it seems like he's been with the team for years.

    Especially on that once fast break I saw him run with.. I think Parker?

    Spurs uncovered a gem. This is the sort of hungry Veteran that every team needs that has already won a championship.


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    Butler has really thrived as a stretch 4 and has gotten some of Bobo's minutes next to Duncan at that spot, and then some minutes from Anderson. But I don't see him completely edging Anderson out at least until later in the season, bc Anderson has improved significantly since his rookie season and he's a young talent that may be a part of the team's future or at least a future trade chip. At this point he's too good for the D'league. For Pop to see what he needs to continue to work on and develop, he needs some NBA minutes to get tested. Butler is also not going to completely erase Diaw's minutes either. So I don't see him getting over 12-15 minutes a night if everyone is healthy.


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    Looks like he may be part of the rotation, at least for now..

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    Looks like he may be part of the rotation, at least for now..
    I've held my judgement on him. I still don't like new old dudes as rotation players. He is looking good out there right now though. I'll reserve my assessment for right now.

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    big fan. Much better fit with the bench unit as presently constructed....

    Fathead will still have a role to play when Manu isn't active or when Pop wants to go smallballl, he hasn't been terrible tbh

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    Anderson is doing better than most people are giving him credit.

    Even in the first game against OKC, his... intelligent defense stymied a few plays.

    And this last game, he should have had 2 blocks and a couple steals.

    I see the herky jerky in his game... the change of pace, which is a powerful weapon to have, especially as a playmaker.

    It's like when a QB looks away to confuse the coverage, and then throwing to the man he wanted to all along, that is now wide open.

    His shooting isn't there yet.

    And he's so hyped up... once he is able to relax a little those shots will be smoother and start going down.

    I really like his skill set and potential versatility...

    As for Rasual... except for the 3 point shooting, he's been all that we could ask for and more.

    Sometimes it seems like he's been with the team for years.

    Especially on that once fast break I saw him run with.. I think Parker?

    Spurs uncovered a gem. This is the sort of hungry Veteran that every team needs that has already won a championship.


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    Boiled down: He didn't actually drool on the ball and made it past half court before the buzzer.

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    big fan. Much better fit with the bench unit as presently constructed....

    Fathead will still have a role to play when Manu isn't active or when Pop wants to go smallballl, he hasn't been terrible tbh
    If he gets a 3 point shot I think he can help us in the future. Right now, without being a threat from 3, Pop will play Rasual. It should give him more motivation to continue to work on that shot.

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    Boiled down: He didn't actually drool on the ball and made it past half court before the buzzer.
    oh you are cruel lol
    I like him though, sue me lol

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    Butler is a very athletic player despite his age, a lot of his game revolves around his athleticism. I can easily see why he declined with a larger role, once his legs were gone, there went his game. He explodes off 1 foot quite a bit when attacking the rim, gets out and runs very well in transition, uses that vertical to get rebs, block shots, etc. He expends a ton of energy each time he's out there.

    He's like a poor man's Manu, and if they can keep him fresh like Manu, they'll have a solid role player.

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    Butler is a very athletic player despite his age, a lot of his game revolves around his athleticism. I can easily see why he declined with a larger role, once his legs were gone, there went his game. He explodes off 1 foot quite a bit when attacking the rim, gets out and runs very well in transition, uses that vertical to get rebs, block shots, etc. He expends a ton of energy each time he's out there.

    He's like a poor man's Manu, and if they can keep him fresh like Manu, they'll have a solid role player.
    He's more like a poor man's Stephen Jackson rather than Manu.

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    Butler is a very athletic player despite his age, a lot of his game revolves around his athleticism. I can easily see why he declined with a larger role, once his legs were gone, there went his game. He explodes off 1 foot quite a bit when attacking the rim, gets out and runs very well in transition, uses that vertical to get rebs, block shots, etc. He expends a ton of energy each time he's out there.

    He's like a poor man's Manu, and if they can keep him fresh like Manu, they'll have a solid role player.
    He's more like a poor man's Stephen Jackson rather than Manu.
    I agree with you not on the nature of their game, as no one is exactly like Manu, but I agree that he needs to have his legs underneath him and a pep in their step to get to the rim and make plays.

    I agree we need to preserve him somewhat. He should be fine with 15 minutes and Manu at 20, but you don't want to overplay them more than that probably, and my issue was more on the SL depending on these two (along with Patty who is younger though and not a concern) to bring them back from deficits in games on a consistent basis.

    Very happy with RAsual TBH. Nice pickup.

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    surprised people doubt him despite his solid play.

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    Even better than I thought he would be.

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    Heard from my sauces that Sul is already adapting better than West and Aldridge in practice. He plays calm and confident and I also think he could be a good role model for Kawhi, Green, SlowMo. Im a Bonner supporter and its okay for me if he replaces Matty in the 2nd/3rd lineup. Butler is still fast and can still make shots. Good thing he chose the Spurs

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    Wow Bonner I have to hand it to you, you really nailed it with that one, and I think you said it while he was still in preseason trying to make the team and his status was uncertain since had a nonguaranteed contract.


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    Butler played great tonight. Always brings great energy to the floor. Really glad to have him on the team!

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    He's more like a poor man's Stephen Jackson rather than Manu.
    def. not like manu, I meant as far as getting burned out, poor choice of words lol. Hopefully Butler can knock down 3's like Jackson, he's taken so few this year so it's too early to judge. Shot well with the Wiz until his legs fatigued mid way, then his shot was done.

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    Regarding the 4th wing spot from last yr to this year -- Marco was the better passer, dribbler, and slightly better shooter, but Rasual is a much better defender (which is what SA needed most off the bench). He's also a decent passer and can create/put the ball on the floor when the defense closes hard to contest. Very impressed w/ Butler's play in many phases.

    Keep it up Rasual!

    Butler >>> Anderson

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    What a perfect fit as the last guy to get reliable minutes.

    I really like Anderson, seems like a cool guy and I hope his game improves, but as of now he's a situational sub. Butler should get his minutes going forward. He is a good shooter, does get lost on D sometimes but has long arms and seems to flow to the ball well. Knows where to be on the floor. Another great move by PATFO.

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    What a perfect fit as the last guy to get reliable minutes.

    I really like Anderson, seems like a cool guy and I hope his game improves, but as of now he's a situational sub. Butler should get his minutes going forward. He is a good shooter, does get lost on D sometimes but has long arms and seems to flow to the ball well. Knows where to be on the floor. Another great move by PATFO.
    Exactly my take earlier based off of preseason play. Simmons or KA are not ready to be full rotational players. Basically their play in the preseason is the reason the Spurs let Jimmer go. Butler's D this year has been stellar. He IMO has really learned the Spurs system quite fast. It's not too surprising as I mentioned earlier as well that the Wizards were one team I notice trying to mimic the Spurs, on both ends of the floor.

    It's nice to see Manu only having to play 15-20 minutes a game again and Spurs having a reliable backup to spell him. Butler has more than earned his league minimum thus far. The guy, apart from this 3 pt shooting, has been playing a very high level in the Spurs system so far this year.
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    Even better than I thought he would be.
    What a perfect fit as the last guy to get reliable minutes.

    I really like Anderson, seems like a cool guy and I hope his game improves, but as of now he's a situational sub. Butler should get his minutes going forward. He is a good shooter, does get lost on D sometimes but has long arms and seems to flow to the ball well. Knows where to be on the floor. Another great move by PATFO.
    Watching him, I can't help but think if he had landed in the right spot he would have had a different career. Not a star but does a lot of things well.
    Good pick up

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    It is nice to have backups with size.

    The Spurs have height and/or length all over the court now (maybe not at PG though).

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    What a perfect fit as the last guy to get reliable minutes.

    I really like Anderson, seems like a cool guy and I hope his game improves, but as of now he's a situational sub. Butler should get his minutes going forward. He is a good shooter, does get lost on D sometimes but has long arms and seems to flow to the ball well. Knows where to be on the floor. Another great move by PATFO.
    I really like Anderson too, but I am a team fan and for me, its whoever is best for the team. Unfortunately for Anderson, he's not a threat from 3. Rasual is a vet and is a good shooter, he hasn't shot very well, but he's also taken few shots, and he is a known shooter by reputation, which really opens things up for others. He also gets most of his minutes in close games as a stretch 4. It seems like a surprise to say this, but Anderson just finds himself like Cojo, losing minutes to a shooter. Hopefully he is pounding that rock and working on that shot.

    What I like most about Rasual is that he doesn't make many mistakes. That is where you appreciate a good vet player. He had games where he looked better than Danny TBH, specially early. Danny had all these dribbling mistakes, passing mistakes, and was cold shooting, meanwhile Rasual came in with a lot of energy and made significant good plays on both ends whenever he played.

    As for Anderson, I wonder if they will send him back to the Dleague again, specially if everyone is healthy, not because it will help him get better at this point. TBH I think Anderson needs playing time in the NBA at this point, its the only way he will improve from here on out, but to keep up his game conditioning and stamina. But I also consider the possibility of foul trouble and injury and he's now the 11th man, who actually is versatile enough to be subbed in short minutes at different positions, so I think the team needs him in the bench just in case.

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