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Good to hear you're well
I was with the german team (I work for their TV-station) and I'm still terrified. Worst thing I had to go through my entire life. Police/security handled things pretty well in the Stadium, but that explosion was horrific.
Hope all the french ST's plus Familie are OK.
Good to hear you're well
Good to hear you're doing well, pook
Thx Nono.
It was my first time with the team on tour. Subbing in for a colleague who couldn't make the trip. This is some really ed up .
Thanks, i have friends who lost friends :-/
sad world...
I've been to Paris myself, have family there... it's a beautiful city with beautiful people... nobody deserves any of this.
Agreed, one of the most beautiful cities I was able to visit.
DID BAYERN WIN
Btw I think this is a very thoughtful thread, thanks to ElNono and those who kept thein the nba forum thread.
A friend of mine told me this morning he lost a brother in the Bataclan massacre.... This world is pretty ed up right now tbh...
It`s France, they`ve already surrendered
As much differences as i had during both my stays in france i would like to give French posters a kind support from Argentina in this difficult moment.
It is my wish that everyone who has been affected by this tragedy finds support in their friends, family and colleges and a way to get thru it without going away of the peaceful means.
Hope your life and your families can continue with peace as you move on and remember war is not an option if you want to avoid violence.
Kind regards to any Frenchmen or woman who reads this.
We humans are the most dominant species on this Earth. It's sad that we have progressed so far technologically but still we must endure such horror at the hands of our own kind. No one is stopping humans from creating a great global society except for humans. So disappointing...
Undeniable evidence that Islam is the largest threat to civility in the world:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ncidents,_2015
According to my tally, roughly 99% of the terrorist attacks listed are Muslim-perpetrated, mostly by Sunni groups and Sunni lone wolves.
No sugar coating it folks, Islam is the problem... particularly Sunni Islam.
Agree 110%.
"Islam is the largest threat to civility in the world"
Repug/neocon objective in invading Iraq for oil was "regime change" in Iraq, Syria, and Iran to establish American hegemony over the OIL region.
ISIS's military competence comes from Saddam's Bathist/Sunni military generals and officers, all fired by the Americans.
America started this in the Middle East, and it can't stop it.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 11-14-2015 at 02:09 PM.
You're a ing moron."Islam is the largest threat to civility in the world"
Repug/neocon objective in invading Iraq for oil was "regime change" in Iraq, Syria, and Iran to establish American hegemony over the OIL region.
ISIS's military competence comes from Saddam's Bathist/Sunni military generals and officers.
America started this in the Middle East, and they can't stop it.
Notice how the Islamic terrorists scream, "Die for trying to take our oil!" in Arabic whenever they massacre people like this.... no; they scream "God is great!".
Blind lib morons like you will never understand common sense. For you, I recommend drinking a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner to clean out all the in your brain. If it kills you, nothing of value will be lost.
no, moron, the Muslims attack in reprisal for 100Ks, Ms?, of Muslims killed, maimed, their homes and villages destroyed, wedding parties and 1000s dead as collateral damage massacred by American bombs, all tied to America ing around in Middle East, invading Iraq for oil.
Hope the families of all the Arabs that were killed in Beirut that have been neglected by the media are doing well, too, tbh, Allah Yarhamun..
Paris is undoubtedly one of the treasures of the world.
Although it is not my favorite city, it was my late husband's very favorite place on the planet. Never saw him or heard him happier than when he was in Paris or remembering when he was in Paris. Like many Americans, he was not anxious to go there and refused for a long time. But once I got him there the first time (we went back often after that), he was astounded with the beauty, the architecture, and yes, the people of Paris. He fell in love with the place. After the first few weeks, he even tried a few phrases in his midwestern twang accented French.
Don't want to think of Paris not being as free as I have always experienced it being.
Christians were doing it in the 1950s, when black people wouldn't cooperate with Jim Crow laws. Christians did it when Dr. King was marching for peaceful equality. Christians do it today, at abortion clinics, at LGBT events. Are their attacks as severe, or as devastating, or as frequent? No. What's been pouring out of Northern Africa and the Middle East are, in sheer numbers, vastly more devastating. The point I was hinting at without really expanding on too deeply is that the core mentality is the same - a group of people, as a subset of a larger ideology that they do not fully represent, get it in their heads that their religion is the Final Solution and must be implemented as law, whether on official law books in state houses or in practice. There are Christians - not nearly the number of militant ones compared to the Taliban, al Qaeda, ISIS, etc. - that want the US operated as a theocracy. They say no, they say it's just about upholding Christian principles, but in reality they're asking for exaltation to federal supremacy under the belief that the United States is a majority Christian and that "life, liberty, pursuit of happiness" is exclusively a Christian idea - which it is not.
Part of the reason militant Christianity isn't as prevalent today as militant Islam is because of differences in the socioeconomic and cultural conditions of the regions of the world where each ideology is dominant. Half a century ago, the Middle East was far more stable and democratic than it is now. Terrorist groups were smaller, weaker, less prevalent. The Golden Age of Islam, wherein Bagdhad was the cultural epicenter of a region leading the world in scientific progress, ended as religious doctrine became favored. This did not itself lead to violence, but rather destroyed the best defense against theocratic influence and religious fanaticism, which is education. The inability of the three Abrahamic religions and the nations that seek to advance their doctrine, including the United States, to come to a peaceful agreement regarding Israel and the Palestinian state is a another instigating factor. The Cold War escalated the West's involvement in controlling territory in that region. The US armed rebels, armies, guerilla groups, you name it, all to either stabilize a government or topple one. United States foreign policy towards Israel is largely influenced by a widely held public belief that because Israel is the prophecized holy land from the Bible, that it's existence is the will of God and those allied with her are to be shepherded into the promised land with her people. The US alliance with Israel and the billions of Western dollars we pour into helping that state defend itself only serves to aggravate those who would uphold Islamic indoctrinization of the region. Throw in how the various states comprising the area were formed out of the Ottoman collapse, and thus are largely devoid of any sort of national iden y, and you have a prime breeding ground for militant religious doctrine - people in that part of the world identify as their religion before their nationality, and it's why ISIS has had little trouble operating out of multiple countries. The region collapsed into a state of oerpetual war, exacerbated by Western involvement and increasingly extreme Islam as a response to the efforts of the West. As the region became further destabilized, increased Western intervention was needed, and the problems got worse even as the United States and Western coalitions conducted successful campaigns abroad. Militant Islam grew into what it is now because the region it originates from is wildly unstable, and now that these groups exist and our militaries must intervene, the cycle perpetuates. This is just a hugely simplified analysis of it.
Many more personal take is that religion is toxic, and the teachings of Christopher Hitchens on why it's toxic adequately sum up my beliefs. I just think the present political state of the world contributes to the idea that "their" religion is inherently worse than "our" religion. People divide themselves into us vs. them in times like these, something religion already does for us anyway.
I wanted to conclude my comment with how I felt towards the people of France and a recognition of their nation's contributions to ours. I appreciate your feedback. I know the first paragraph of what I said is more divisive, as I simplified an analytical point of view of the last 50 or so years of world sociopolitical history, and I'm fine with people not agreeing with my assessment of religion's place in all this. Thank you for your response.
Last edited by Horry Hipcheck; 11-14-2015 at 03:28 PM.
Moron. The Sunni Muslims attack Europe and the West because we are infidels, or kafireen, according to the POS medieval Islamic texts they live by (the Qu'ran and hadiths). The Prophet Muhammad, who Muslims praise five times per day, had an agenda to kill all of those who did not believe in he as the king and Allah as the One God; therefore, Sunni Muslims today seek to carry out Muhammad's final mission of eradicating all non-Muslims, Shia Muslims (including Alawite and Druze), or other Sunni Muslims who do not adhere to the tenets of the present Caliph (and Muhammad himself).
UNT, Mal and Bouton
Take your stupid and immature posts to the political forum. if in light of what happened in Paris and Beirut the only thing you can do is argue in an offensive and quite uneducated way it has no place in this thread.
Fair warning
Thoughts and prayers for the Kurdish victims of the Turkey bombing as well tbh. Didn't see a thread on that either
Also didn't see a Russian spurs fans thread. Thoughts and prayers for the Russian victims
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