Pe ion for no Syrian refugees to the U.S.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I would say the risk is quite small, so yes. Listen this interview at the 5:30 mark if you want to hear why. This guy spent a week with them, he knows what he's talking about.

Don't have speakers on my work computer, I'll watch it later tonight.

Why do you continue to ignore the Iraqi refugee terrorists that slipped through the system even though we had way more intel on Iraqi refugees than we will have on Syrians refugees?

[ChumpDumper]

terrified

This coming from the guy who has exhaustively studied the screening process and knows the exact numbers and whereabouts of each Syrian refugee now in the United States, but yeah, you aren't terrified.

I don't know the exact whereabouts of each Syrian refugee. I found out 2000 were already here and there was a really simple graphic in the obscure site called the New York Times or something like that showing where they were.

You never said what you are going to do about the Syrian refugees in your area, TSA -- are you terrified of simple questions too?

[ChumpDumper]

Does the benefit outweigh the risk?

Follow though on a rather paltry refugee intake to prove we aren't a completely cowardly nation that is playing right in Daesh's hands?

Yes, it's worth it.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Past generations have accepted great burdens to do the right thing, i.e. the Union's smashing of the confederacy, the revolution itself that threw off the British, as well as WW1 and WW2.

A few people get killed by some psychopathic nutters and we lose our minds with fear. "keep us safe" at the cost of becoming a nation of cowards.

Funny thing about the whole thing is that the kind of stupidity that the Republican party is pushing is exactly what ISIS wants.


http://www.economist.com/news/leader...how-fight-back

More than "a few" people were just killed.

And do you really want people living in your country that will turn to radical Islam because their feelings got hurt?

[Clipper Nation]

Past generations have accepted great burdens to do the right thing, i.e. the Union's smashing of the confederacy, the revolution itself that threw off the British, as well as WW1 and WW2.

A few people get killed by some psychopathic nutters and we lose our minds with fear. "keep us safe" at the cost of becoming a nation of cowards.

> Letting terrorists into the country = "accepting great burdens to do the right thing"
> Not letting terrorists into the country = "losing our minds with fear... becoming a nation of cowards"
> Allowing American citizens to own firearms for self-defense = "we can't keep doing this, it's too unsafe! Think of the children!"

Funny thing about the whole thing is that the kind of stupidity that the Republican party is pushing is exactly what ISIS wants.

If you actually think ISIS wouldn't want us to let them into our country and not protect ourselves from them, I've got a bridge to sell you.

[Splits]

Don't have speakers on my work computer, I'll watch it later tonight.

He basically says (in 2014) that the threat is from citizens who want to join but instead carry out attacks before they go to Syria/Iraq. That the ones who come back are the losers and are not really a threat because they quit.

Why do you continue to ignore the Iraqi refugee terrorists that slipped through the system even though we had way more intel on Iraqi refugees than we will have on Syrians refugees?

Perhaps because there have been no attacks by Iraqi refugees in the US, so the threat is either overblown or doesn't exist? Also, I wouldn't consider someone fighting against an occupying force to be a "terrorist". Probably still shouldn't let them in, but that's just defending your neighborhood.

[hater]

Lol USA telling refugees to go themselves on Thanksgiving

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't know the exact whereabouts of each Syrian refugee. I found out 2000 were already here and there was a really simple graphic in the obscure site called the New York Times or something like that showing where they were.

You never said what you are going to do about the Syrian refugees in your area, TSA -- are you terrified of simple questions too?

I don't have any in my area and if I did not much I could do anyways to avoid being blown up.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't have any in my area

How do you know?

and if I did not much I could do anyways to avoid being blown up.

So you don't even want them to leave?

You're not afraid of the ones that are already here that went through the intake process you declare to be so flawed?

You make no sense.

[spurraider21]

Post them.

Comey is a right-wing hack, a legacy of the disastrous Bush admin. I don't trust anything he says.

lol make up ur mind

[RandomGuy]

More than "a few" people were just killed.

And do you really want people living in your country that will turn to radical Islam because their feelings got hurt?

We lose 38,000 per year in traffic accidents. That averages out to about 104 people per day.

If we want to modify our behavior based on the costs in terms of lives, why not start with making our roads safer?

If we are willing to accept hundreds of times more deaths for simple convenience, why not accept the risk of a terrorist attack to help tens of thousands of innocent human beings escape from this kind of hole?

Have we gotten that hysterical? Which is exactly what these asshats want.

[RandomGuy]

http://listosaur.com/miscellaneous/t...united-states/

Choking: 2500 deaths per year.
4. Fires (2,700 annual deaths)
3. Falls (25,000 annual deaths)
2. Poisoning (39,000 annual deaths)
1. Motor Vehicle Incidents (42,000 annual deaths)


Maybe we should wage a war against choking?

[Spurminator]

Our risk of creating terrorists by continuing to let vetted refugees into the country is far less than our risk of creating terrorists by telling them to go themselves because of their religion. If you don't want a religious war, don't make it a religious war.

[TheSanityAnnex]

How do you know?

i found the map you mentioned

So you don't even want them to leave?

You're not afraid of the ones that are already here that went through the intake process you declare to be so flawed?

You make no sense.

less than 2,000 here now and we aren't going to round them up and send them back so I don't really care they are here. 65,000 more is a significant increase that brings a much more significant risk due to numbers alone.

[boutons_deux]

a religious war.

... a war of any stripe, esp with long-term occupation of foreign countries, is exactly what MSM (sells ads to corporations) and MIC (sucks down taxpayers' wealth in corporate welfare) want.

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://listosaur.com/miscellaneous/t...united-states/

Choking: 2500 deaths per year.
4. Fires (2,700 annual deaths)
3. Falls (25,000 annual deaths)
2. Poisoning (39,000 annual deaths)
1. Motor Vehicle Incidents (42,000 annual deaths)


Maybe we should wage a war against choking?

Seriously?

[RandomGuy]

One More: Drowning (2,000 annual deaths)
Postscript: Accidental Shootings (600 annual deaths)

, you are more likely to die from an accidental shooting than to be deliberately killed in a terrorist incident.

[RandomGuy]

Seriously?

Um, no, not seriously. Merely pointing out how silly worrying about terrorists actually is, given the other ways that people die accidentally in the US.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Our risk of creating terrorists by continuing to let vetted refugees into the country is far less than our risk of creating terrorists by telling them to go themselves because of their religion. If you don't want a religious war, don't make it a religious war.

I'd rather not let people in who would turn to terrorism if told to off

[Clipper Nation]

http://listosaur.com/miscellaneous/t...united-states/

Choking: 2500 deaths per year.
4. Fires (2,700 annual deaths)
3. Falls (25,000 annual deaths)
2. Poisoning (39,000 annual deaths)
1. Motor Vehicle Incidents (42,000 annual deaths)


Maybe we should wage a war against choking?

The lack of self-awareness here is stunning. These are the exact arguments libcucks reject when used against gun control.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Um, no, not seriously. Merely pointing out how silly worrying about terrorists actually is, given the other ways that people die accidentally in the US.

And we take precautions everyday to avoid these types of accidents.

[Spurminator]

I'd rather not let people in who would turn to terrorism if told to off

It's not necessarily those people. It's anyone from the millions and millions people who see us turn away their countrymen.

[td4mvp2k]

We lose 38,000 per year in traffic accidents. That averages out to about 104 people per day.

If we want to modify our behavior based on the costs in terms of lives, why not start with making our roads safer?

If we are willing to accept hundreds of times more deaths for simple convenience, why not accept the risk of a terrorist attack to help tens of thousands of innocent human beings escape from this kind of hole?

Have we gotten that hysterical? Which is exactly what these asshats want.

[Spurminator]

The anti-Muslim rhetoric of our vote-courting leaders makes a great recruiting tool for ISIS and the like. Maybe we should be more concerned about that?

[FromWayDowntown]

I'm fascinated by the phenomenon where the more Americans get scared about something, the more willing they are to part with American fundamentals and freedom and liberty to gain some greater (and illusory) sense of safety.