Dude stop quoting idiots.![]()
Comparing a future hall of famer to Jimmy ing Butler.![]()
Dude stop quoting idiots.![]()
Umm, the East isn't ty anymore bruh. And no, Jimmy IS a legit superstar. You obviously have not seen this tough street raised play. Nice try.
PG is too inefficient. KD isn't really a playmaker. LeBron is really the only SF that can be both a scorer and playmaker but he's a once in a generation player.
You could drown us all in a sea of with all the spin you put on this post.
Butler is one of the best players in the league right now. Arguably better than or equal to Kawhi and just a small cut below Lebron. Curry is still another level above all those guys but let's be real. Butler is a Superstar and will go down as one of the Bulls all time greats over Rose, obviously.
Griffin is a playmaker? Shaq was a playmaker? Oh, they're bigs. So, bigmen can't be top 5 players or your requirements to be a top 5 player don't apply to everyone...
As if I needed any more reassurence about my Jimmy Butler assesment on the NBA forum.![]()
Dont quote me ever.
Griffin is a terrific passer though, and a very versatile big. Many star big men are actually terrific passers.
"Parker needs 18 FGA, LMA/Kawhi 10"
"Butler is the closest thing to Michael"
Stop smoking that ...![]()
Agree. Blake is the best PF in the league right now. Too bad the Clippers ran up against the Warriors and that derailed them. They will be fine though going forward. I remember when it wasn't even a comparison - LMA over Blake no question. Now it's clearly Blake over LMA.
You can't handle the truth is all.
Of course many star big men were/are terrific passers, Tim, Pau Gasol...but I wouldn't say Griffin or Shaq are on that list.
I think Shaq was an underrated passer bc he was so dominant, but that was an era that I didn't witness personally. Whether you think so or not, Griffin is actually a very good passer, so are guys that are a tier below, like Kevin Love.
Kawhi can get better shots for himself than Parker.
I know, my bad. But Op's so funny/stupid/crazy to not quote him![]()
No. Parker creates more of his own shots whereas Kawhi gets more off assists or in stagnant dump in iso situations. Parker's FG% is also higher than Kawhi's this year so your argument is fundamentally flawed.
I wish that was the case for both of them since they have had great success against the Spurs. Griffin was averaging 7.4 assists game against the Spurs last year in the playoffs. I don't know how you can't say he's not a great passer for his position. He went through a stretch last year when CP3 was injured where he was leading the clippers in assists. Shaq was always a great passer going back to when he played for the magic he had ability to find guys like D.Scott,Anderson, for 3's and set up other guys for lay ups and dunks.
Agree, a good passer doesn't mean terrific passer or a superstar playmaker. That was Kawhistorm's requisite of a top 5 player.
Yup, and that was crazy. But he's a good passer not that great.
Kawhi take more 3's than Tony of course his fg% is lower. Before tonight though Kawhi still had the higher 2ptfg%(not sure if it changed).
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