Ugly game

[100%duncan]

If the guy doesn't play, the effect is the same. lol

Ok count out 2007 as you wish. 2005 still clean. If shaqwade cant get past pistons then a destroyed shaqobe relationship following a humuliating finals loss the year before is much worse.

[midnightpulp]

In 2007 the Horry hipcheck put Amare and Diaw out a game. The rest was a cakewalk. In 2005, Shaq was now in Miami, and Detroit beat them in the ECF. That kept LA out of the picture. Had Shaq still been in LA, things might have been different. Had Detroit not beaten Miami, things might have been different. We had the good fortune to be in the right place at the right time. Opportunity meet preparedness.

'04 was the last gasp for the Lakers, and the Spurs should still kick themselves for letting that ty team off the hook. We choked. Phil packed the paint in a desperation move to stop Parker/Manu penetration and collapse on Duncan, but our shooters couldn't hit the proverbial broadside.

That said, pretty much every le run is aided by luck. Even the dominant '01 Lakers, who were lucky the rest of the league was utter during that year. We were a 60 win team rolling out the corpses of Terry Porter, Danny Ferry, and Sean Elliott as our wings Imagine how that team would get slaughtered today.

[SnakeBoy]

I don't know why some of you want to just roll with Butler. I get he's a vet at the end of his career so he has experience but on the other hand, he's really not that good and he's as good as he's ever going to be.

[DMC]

KOBE'S FAULT,BECAUSE HIS EGO

Shut your ing mouth

[Fireball]

another bad one ... empty seats galore ... some booing by the crowd will happen this season sooner rather than later

[TrainOfThought5]

Kyle has shown promise early. As strict as Pop is with young players, and as tight as many of our games have been with everyone in the SL lacking chemistry, Pop just hasn't been able to play Kyle enough. Like everyone else (the vets oooo), he needs to catch a rhythm of his own and chemistry with guys.

The most promising thing about him is that he can make his game work with any lineup and can sub credibly from 2-4. He can switch and guard perimeter players credibly, be they fast or post up threats. He can pass. His shot needs work from 3, but he can make the corner 3 and has a midrange game. What is not to like about this young project? That he's not a finished product??? Bah.

He needs playing time to get better, and so far, making good use of his opportunities. Lots more potential than Rasual, and already has served us well in two understaffed games: the 76ers game and this one game. The Pelicans game, Pop went away from Kyle when I thought he could have helped against Ryan Anderson.

Pop is going to have to keep giving chances to this young guy to find out what he can really do.

This. All of this.

[Biernutz]

The game was a bit ugly but how would this game end if Zoe would have played?

[tbdog]

'04 was the last gasp for the Lakers, and the Spurs should still kick themselves for letting that ty team off the hook. We choked. Phil packed the paint in a desperation move to stop Parker/Manu penetration and collapse on Duncan, but our shooters couldn't hit the proverbial broadside.

That said, pretty much every le run is aided by luck. Even the dominant '01 Lakers, who were lucky the rest of the league was utter during that year. We were a 60 win team rolling out the corpses of Terry Porter, Danny Ferry, and Sean Elliott as our wings Imagine how that team would get slaughtered today.

Manu was injured, an phil used Radman to guard him. That is how injured he was.

[100%duncan]

I don't know why some of you want to just roll with Butler. I get he's a vet at the end of his career so he has experience but on the other hand, he's really not that good and he's as good as he's ever going to be.

Because this team is in win-now mode.

[midnightpulp]

Manu was injured, an phil used Radman to guard him. That is how injured he was.

That was the '08 series against the Lakers. In '04, we had them down 0-2, and looked ready to sweep, and then it all fell apart.

[Brazil]

Matt Barnes effect... This scrub just likes to play well against Kawhi

[100%duncan]

Matt Barnes effect... This scrub just likes to play well against Kawhi

Did he even play well?

[JeffDuncan]

Did he even play well?

Hey, Barnes got 10 pts, which on the Grizzlies makes him their new scoring sensation.

He had a steal, a block, 3 assists, 3 rebounds. Just mediocre.

[Johnny RIngo]

'04 was the last gasp for the Lakers, and the Spurs should still kick themselves for letting that ty team off the hook. We choked. Phil packed the paint in a desperation move to stop Parker/Manu penetration and collapse on Duncan, but our shooters couldn't hit the proverbial broadside.

Parker's chokejob in that series is one for the ages. Shot worse than any other Spurs yet averaged more field goal attempts than either prime Duncan or Manu.

Efficiency vs 2004 Lakers:

.594 TS% - Manu
.534 TS% - Duncan
.421 TS% - Enrique

Shot attempts vs 2004 Lakers:

19 FGA/g - Enrique
15 FGA/g - Duncan
10 FGA/g - Manu

[DMC]

Because this team is in win-now mode.

No it's not. People think the Spurs have to win it all this year, but this isn't the Heatles. They still have to build a team and Tim/Manu and maybe Tony won't be around much longer (circa 2009). The Spurs don't have a habit of throwing caution to the wind and going all in for a "right now" approach when their business has a long term need. Sure it's a compe ion, but this isn't a 40 yard dash for PATFO, it's a marathon. They have to do what they've done to get the results they've gotten. The LMA was a good acquisition, as was West, but I don't think the Spurs front office thinks they are in a "win now" mode when they have Pop and Manu speaking openly about "we aren't concerned with our record right now, we are trying to get better" -Manu and "He's the future of this franchise" -Pop.

[DMC]

TELL ME WHY SHAQ LEFT THE LAKERS ???????

O<----your mouth

~<----what you need to do with it

[Obstructed_View]

-KA played nice. But I think we should be rolling with butler this season.

Danny and cojo wouldnt get overtaken by a 36 year old in the rotation

I'm trying to find a way to respond to this without insulting you, but it's really difficult. If you can't even evaluate impartially because you already declared a player useless and can't admit to the possibility that you might have been premature, it's going to be really hard for people to take your opinions seriously.

[SnakeBoy]

Because this team is in win-now mode.

No the team is in win in April mode which is why Pop continues to develop KA. It's only certain posters who care about November basketball. Butler in April will be the same as Butler in November. KA...time will tell.

[spurraider21]

Leonard is a Kobe/Jordan type of offensive player who excels from the post and getting to his midrange shooting spots (he's arguably a better 3 point shooter than either, though). Unlike prime Kobe and Jordan, he's not an elite penetrator, so he's going to have a lot of nights where his offense sputters and he shoots 8-20, 7-17, etc. It's been my only concern with him, and it's not too much of concern, since he can offset below average raw shooting efficiency with his 3 point shot and getting to the line. Not to mention getting easy points on the offensive glass and breakaway dunks from steals and such.

Furthermore, given the Spurs' offensive structure, he'll rarely, if ever, have high volume/low efficiency games (10-30, 8-28, etc).