Nah, I was just putting him w/ the guys that could shoot CONSISTENTLY in every way imaginable: off the bounce, spotting up, coming off curls, off balance...etc. Otherwise last I checked Ray wasn't a PG.
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 11-23-2015 at 05:49 PM.
I get that. I was peaking more of the Curry comparisons to the other guys I mentioned. Gordon though never had play-making responsibilties Ray at least did back in his Sonics/Bucks days ...
Best comparison for Gordon is like Andrew Toney or Vinny Johnson.
If we are talking strictly about playmakers then Van Exel didn't shoot coming off curls but dude could light it up off the bounce same w/ Damon Stodamire. Van Exel was kind of like Kyrie w/o the athleticism & Isaiah Thomas reminds me of Mighty Mouse.
Then you have OG Tim Hardaway.
Chris Jackson would have been lethal if he played in this era too.
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 11-23-2015 at 06:00 PM.
NVE was sick off teh dribble good in PNR but had horrible shot selection and was streaky. Underrated play maker with good vision but that just made his HORRIBLE shot selection more frustrating. He was kinda like Kobe in that way tbh ...
Ben Gordon was my favourite shooter in the mid 00. Loved his high jump release
It matters how a guy does in RS games because that's how you get to the playoffs, but once you get there you have to elevate your game or at least remain consistent. , Matt Bonner shot lights out in the RS, went snowman in the playoffs. JET hit like 9 3's in the Finals. Curry was held down by a bench player scrub white boy with a beard.
jesus... curry had a horrible game 2 and suddenly he was "held down"
he shot 49.5% in the other 5 games
He gave up the MVP to a bench player.
and duncan gave up MVP to parker... and duncan shot under 45% for that series
Only after he had 3 already and not in Duncan's MVP season.
Plus Parker was the starting PG, not a bench player. Manu didn't get one in Tim's prime.
parker and iggy played the same minutes per game in their respective finals mvp campaigns. it's really not a big deal. it was still duncan's team, and it's remembered that way. nobody remembers the '81 celtics as maxwell's team either
i know you have that albatross curry thread with your name on it, so you need to stick to your guns, though. so go ahead
Well allow me to retort:
1. So? Are you saying 2007 Tim Duncan is on par with 2015 Steph Curry?
2. It really is. Tell me another prime superstar who won RS MVP and the Finals but not the Finals MVP.
3. It's Peter Holt's team. You can't speak to how it's remembered except by you.
4. It was Bird's 3rd year in the league. He wasn't the RS MVP. Cedric brought it. Anyone who remembers that series would see it as Cedric's series else he wouldn't have won the FMVP. Sure Bird made a great shot, but obviously Cedric had a bigger impact.
5. Everything I said in that thread was accurate and has been proven as such since.
Don't let Chief Keef start cookin'
Can't play Tim against stretch 4s......put in Fathead
Oops, wrong thread
Can't play Tim against stretch 4sidiotOops, wrong thread
Iggy was playing the Manu role, so it's kinda unfair to characterize him as some kind of bench scrub. To be honest, it was pretty much a toss up as to who should've gotten the FMVP.
The thing about Iggy was that he was being guarded by Mozgov or being dared to make open 3s. Although he did handle the ball & had his fare share of assists, the Cavs made Draymond initiate the offense so Iggy's role was more like Danny in 2013 Finals as a 3-&-D guy.
Iguodala averaged 16.3 points, 5.8 rebounds and 4.0 assists in the finals. Green: 14 points, 4 rebounds, 0.7 assists.
Last edited by Mr Bones; 11-24-2015 at 12:40 AM.
I said 2013 Finals when Danny was on his way to winning Finals MVP after he broke the record for made 3s when the Heat dared him to beat them instead of Tony. Iggy got his fair share of assists but he wasn't the primary playmaker like Manu, the Cavs made him a finisher. Most of his assists were on fastbreaks & he won the MVP b/c his defense along with being the 2nd leading scorer, not his playmaking.
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 11-24-2015 at 12:47 AM.
I didn't say he was a scrub. I even compared him to Manu, who never won an MVP.
Game 1: 26pts (10/20 FG, 2/6 3pt), 8 assists, 4 rebounds.
Game 2: Absolutely brutal shooting
Game 3: 27pts (10/20 FG, 7/13 3pt), 6 assists, 6 rebounds.
Game 4: 22pts (8/17 FG, 4/7 3pt), 7 assists, 2 rebounds.
Game 5: 37pts (13/23 FG, 7/13 3pt), 4 assists, 7 rebounds.
Game 6: 25pts (8/19 FG, 3/11 3pt), 8 assists, 6 rebounds.
Steph "Held down" Curry.
Shame on the league for giving Finals MVP to Iguodala. I love Iggy and he played an absolutely vital role but a bunch of his points came as a result of the Cavs completely selling out to guard Steph Curry. Steph truly deserved Finals MVP, but the league pretty much left the door open for the Curry haters to have something to say by giving Iggy the Finals MVP. What I recall hearing was Iggy won it for his defense on LeBron, but wasn't LeBron putting up almost a Triple double every game in that series?! This still makes no sense to me.
All true. But wouldnt Duncan deserve the 2007 for the same reason? or Isiah for da Pistons.Real fans know the impact of a Curry/duncan etc. But media awards are media awards.
Remember LeBron's shooting percentages. Memory is volatile and people forget how critical Iguodala was on play by play defense. Thankfully, various video editors uploaded these highlights.
Iguodala is a a capable two way player and start on many teams in the NBA. Remember, he was a first option much in his career but it never worked out enough for him to be an elite first option. Now he gets to play behind a guy many of the other teams wanted him to be. His Athleticism hasn't gone away either since he's not getting run down by being a first option and playing heavy minutes.
Last year, Curry wasn't defender he was this year. Most of all, Curry did not have an elite finals. Especially in game 2 in which he was ice cold. Klay Thompson made up for his scoring load but they didn't win.
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