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So having a bunch of lobbying Conference Commisioners is better than Condi Rice...
Sure.
Actually the intrigue is what makes this so much fun. Just as long as OU does not get in I'm fine.
New rankings as of 11/24:
1. Clemson 6. Notre Dame 2. Alabama 7. Baylor 3. Oklahoma 8. Ohio State 4. Iowa 9. Stanford 5. Michigan State 10. Michigan
So having a bunch of lobbying Conference Commisioners is better than Condi Rice...
Sure.
Actually the intrigue is what makes this so much fun. Just as long as OU does not get in I'm fine.
No way ya can have Iowa there, to not play the top dogs in the Big10 is enought to keep them out. The other three...cool~~~~
Who said they prefer lobbying conference commissioners?
Might as well have. You mention Condi Rive but NOT Barry Alvarez?
Cmon...
Barry Alvarez did play football at some point in his life....
Yes he did.
And he is a Big 10 lobbyist.
And that should be prerequisite #1 for getting a spot on the committee.
Not IMO.
So does he get an automatic deal to get Iowa in this year if he makes sure two SEC teams get a shot next year if it's a fairly close decision?
I don't know how all the back room deals are made...You could be right.
I do know that Condi Rice hasn't played or coached one down of football in her life.
There really is no way to please everyone on this.
It does make for some interesting stuff though.
Glad you started the thread.
It needed to be made by someone tbh...
That's what is go great about college football. (Unlike say the NBA) All teams do not play each other and there are hardly any "common opponents" when comparing two teams' resumes.
Leaves the fans with a lot to discuss.
Yep.
Now because I have no team of worth I gotta find a way to keep OU out.
Road to the top-4 is clear. Beat TCU and UT, OSU wins Bedlam and Notre Dame loses to Stanford. The only argument would be a two-loss PAC-12 champ vs. a one-loss Big 12 champ. Considering Baylor's one loss would be to a likely committee top-10, Id say they're in.
Baylor lost to a top-10 team in the country and then decimated another top-10 team on the road with their second and third string QB. Last year their loss to a middle-of-the-pack WVU team and the lack of being declared the sole Big 12 champion cost them dearly. If they're the outright Big 12 champ and only suffered that one loss to Oklahoma, they have a good shot to get in.
To piggyback on the point I think you were about to make...Baylor DOMINATED their weak OOC schedule. Can't say the same for those SEC teams. It also doesn't help when teams like UCLA and Tennessee aren't willing to schedule against you because they know it's a loss.yeah I think even Baylor fan knows they play a ty ooc schedule. But when the SEC schedules ty ooc teams too, then stats crying "but we play a few less ty teams and the SEC gauntlet is so tough" when called out seems pretty lame.
Especially when schools like the Citadel, Jacksonville St and Florida Atlantic shoulda coulda gone 3-0 against then this year.
Alabama should get a bye in the SEC championship. (No need for this game)
OU in.
HOPEFULLY Clemson.
Iowa is just not real. It's just not right.
Who for 4th? Michigan St. Got lucky and unlucky... Ohio St. Lost to mich st. at home but I would like to see them. No Iowa.
OU first out in the final 4 anyways...
Last edited by pgardn; 11-28-2015 at 11:16 PM.
OU and Bama are the top two teams.
Michigan State will get in. I think Clemson is the weakest out of those 4 teams.
I can see it but I hope you are wrong.
OU needs to lose. God sez so....
Starting to get good....
Never underestimate the power of Bob Stoops choking ability.
Really awful game tbqh. Even if Baylor had pulled out the win, it would've been ugly. The interesting thing is that Baylor is in the exact same position irrespective of its loss, because OU is going to get into the CFP. Win against UT and Baylor is going to the Sugar Bowl.
It'll be interesting to see where they slot MSU and tOSU after their wins on Saturday. Regardless, all three B1G teams should get to play in a New Years Six bowl.
Baylor, Okie St, and TCU would all be tied for 2nd in the Big 12. What is the tie-breaker to go to the Sugar Bowl?
Hope this will help:
Big 12 Tiebreaker Rules
Those are located here on the Big 12’s website. When you have a three-way (or greater) tie to be broken, there’s a multi-step process of elimination that occurs. Since we’re facing a real world scenario, I’ll take you through each step individually with the results. But first, here’s some of the most important language:If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 4 will be followed until a determination is made. Once a team has been eliminated from a multi-team comparison, it is dropped from further comparisons. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the Champion.(I added the emphasis.) So, we follow the procedures until there are only two teams left. Once you get down to two teams, head-to-head reigns. Got it? Cool. Let’s move to the first step.1. The conference records of the three or more teams will be compared against each other.No help whatsoever. Again, if Baylor beats Texas, then Baylor, OSU and TCU will all be 7–2 in-conference. We get no clarity from step 1. Let’s check out Step 2.2. The conference records of the three or more teams will be compared against the next highest placed team(s) in the conference (4, 5 and 6….).In this instance, we’d be comparing the records of Baylor, OSU and TCU against West Virginia (2a and b don't matter). We get no clarity here, either, since everyone beat WVU. All three teams lost to OU and each other. So, no additional help. Let’s move on to Step 3.a. When comparing against the next highest placed teams, a two-way tie among the next highest placed teams will be broken by head-to-head before the comparison begins.
b. If more than a two-way tie exists among the next highest placed teams, record against the collective tied teams as a group will be used.3. Scoring differential among the tied teams. The team with the lowest difference between points scored and points allowed in games vs. the tied teams are eliminated from consideration.We’re looking only at the scoring differential of the games between the three tied teams. Baylor beat OSU by 10 and lost by 7 to TCU; the Bears’ scoring differential is +3. OSU’s scoring differential is +10 (beat TCU by 20, lost to us by 10). Thus, TCU’s scoring differential is –13. We now eliminate TCU from consideration. Here’s where there seemed to be some confusion. Some seemed to believe that point differential goes ahead and determines the final breakdown, but that’s not the case, as I mentioned above.
Now that we’re down to two teams, we stop using the 4-step process (Step 4 isn’t required in our scenario) and look at the head-to-head matchup between Baylor and OSU. Baylor beat OSU in Stillwater.
Under the Big 12 Conference tiebreaker procedures, Baylor would be considered the second place team for the purposes of determining who gets the Sugar Bowl bid.
http://www.ourdailybears.com/baylor-...oklahoma-state
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