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    Well, I'll aggregate my qualification of them and say they are a good team, then. Barring injury, they will be in the playoffs as a low seed.
    Yes, Carlisle will get them in - maybe a higher seed than anybody expected in pre-season, judging by the performance of the Rockettes and Clipjobs so far.

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    But with one 16–0 team already three games ahead of us, and a 4-loss team hot on our heels, we can't afford to do mad scientist mode early this year. This isn't the NFC East or something.
    We don't have a choice. Too many new guys that need to integrate, because our old guys are really old. Frankly, this start is waaaaay better than I thought it would be.

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    Q: could Boban be turned into a serious player this season?

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    We don't have a choice. Too many new guys that need to integrate, because our old guys are really old. Frankly, this start is waaaaay better than I thought it would be.
    Even with such a soft starting SoS? Just wait until they get to the Warriors, Clippers, Rockets games etc... last year they only had to play GSW/OKC/LAC each 3 times.

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    Dallas offense looked better, they had a lot of layups! Something is wrong with the Spurs in that the layups just don't seem to be available.
    It is still an offense with no spacing, so no way for cutters or movement in general. Very stagnant.

    Thatīs why Manu changes our way of play so much, he moves a lot without the ball, and opens options for other to either pass him in advantage situations (our only lyup on the last 3 minutes) or someone else to create it.

    Tony used to do this a lot, i think for this kind of SL, the loop should be used a lot more for initiating the offense, that way mismatches are created early, increasing the chances of ball movement starting off that.

    Also from today, i liked a play where LA converted on a long 2 also clutch, Tony and Manu shared a couple of passes away from the basket and then Tony called up on the screener, it seemed like either LA or Tim got confused so both came to put the screen, Tim on the left and LA on the right.

    Tony used Timīs screen and advanced left, Timīs and Tonyīs man trapped Tony, LAīs man went with Tim who was rolling, Tony beat the trap and threads the pass to LA for the open Jumper.

    Really nice play that if the defense chooses to contest the Jumper, leaves you either with the roller or the handler to penetrate or shoot. Also the possibility of kickout or etcetera.

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    We don't have a choice. Too many new guys that need to integrate, because our old guys are really old. Frankly, this start is waaaaay better than I thought it would be.

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    We are beating teams when Danny, Manu, and Patty are ice cold.

    Future is bright, tbh

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    I'm letting you vent, my comment was actually for your own wellbeing in the long run...

    They obviously like Kyle, but his role might not expand until next season... it's a process, as they say
    Yes, I am frustrated by that and maybe have been more noisy about that specifically, but its not just that. I don't think we should be playing Kawhi 40 mins to win games like this and Manu 28 when he was struggling. I think 28 is too much for Manu, and if Kawhi gets injured on us, what are we doing then if Pop won't play his backups? Seriously I am thinking TD21 was right on this all along maybe.

    I understand Pop sticking to Manu when he is super hot and has it going on, and he has saved the SL which has lacked an offensive flow, but that was not the case here. Manu was off and he struggled. He didn't need to play 28 minutes.

    If anything, this is a show of distrust for Danny I think, specially concerning closing out the game. That has nothing to do with Anderson whatsoever.

    I am upset that Pop just didn't make any adjustments through this game, when Carlisle was running circles around us.

    In the end it matters not, Pop stuck to his guns and we won. It was a game we could have easily lost, but didn't. It feels better than the Wiz game. But the Wiz game, we lost because players didn't execute well.

    This had the feeling of a game where players executed, but Pop didn't make adjustments and just let them figure it out (or not)

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    Kawhi 40 mins and Manu 28.



    Maybe TD21 is right and we need a better 4th wing.


    It won't matter bc Pop would bench him at the slightest thing and play Butler anyways.
    Been saying this tbh... glad you are coming around. Hopefully a tanking team will give us some trade deadline charity.

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    We are beating teams when Danny, Manu, and Patty are ice cold.

    Future is bright, tbh

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    Thank god for the throw back defense
    This is shaping up as a Back to the Future season.

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    Even with such a soft starting SoS? Just wait until they get to the Warriors, Clippers, Rockets games etc... last year they only had to play GSW/OKC/LAC each 3 times.
    The good news is that the rest of the league doesn't seem to be much better than us, except for the Warriors.

    In that sense, we should be able to remain compe ive as we get better.

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    I'm astonished by the Spurs start, tbh. With all the new faces, I thought we'd be a .50 club at this point. Just wait until that chemistry kicks in early next year, tbh.

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    Stubborn Pop not playing Kyle against midgets
    I am cooled down now.

    I guess its the tough road for Kyle.

    In the end will make him better.

    I do think it shows Pop cares a whole lot about his development, that he's not letting him get away with 1 thing, 1 mistake.

    He has to be perfect.

    If that doesn't sap his confidence, I think we have us a player for the future after all.

    Cheers Kawhitstorm!
    Happy Thanksgiving all.
    Getting in a merry mood already.
    Spurs win.

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    Love that D.West is contributing. Solid, solid, player.

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    Yes, I am frustrated by that and maybe have been more noisy about that specifically, but its not just that. I don't think we should be playing Kawhi 40 mins to win games like this and Manu 28 when he was struggling. I think 28 is too much for Manu, and if Kawhi gets injured on us, what are we doing then if Pop won't play his backups? Seriously I am thinking TD21 was right on this all along maybe.

    I understand Pop sticking to Manu when he is super hot and has it going on, and he has saved the SL which has lacked an offensive flow, but that was not the case here. Manu was off and he struggled. He didn't need to play 28 minutes.

    If anything, this is a show of distrust for Danny I think, specially concerning closing out the game. That has nothing to do with Anderson whatsoever.
    Of course he trusts Manu, Tony and Tim to close out games more than anybody else. That shouldn't be surprising at all after a decade of these guys. Pop really doesn't care if Manu is hot or cold or playing well or not, he knows that he can execute when the game is on the line. He's not going to get nervous, he's going to play defense, etc. Same with Tim and Tony.

    Manu played a few more minutes tonight because it was a damn close game in the last 5 mins, and so Pop wanted experienced people out there. I wouldn't read too much into it. If we're up 20, he probably plays just 17-20 mins...

    It might not be fair, but it shouldn't be surprising with Pop at the helm...

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    Yes, I am frustrated by that and maybe have been more noisy about that specifically, but its not just that. I don't think we should be playing Kawhi 40 mins to win games like this and Manu 28 when he was struggling. I think 28 is too much for Manu, and if Kawhi gets injured on us, what are we doing then if Pop won't play his backups? Seriously I am thinking TD21 was right on this all along maybe.

    I understand Pop sticking to Manu when he is super hot and has it going on, and he has saved the SL which has lacked an offensive flow, but that was not the case here. Manu was off and he struggled. He didn't need to play 28 minutes.

    If anything, this is a show of distrust for Danny I think, specially concerning closing out the game. That has nothing to do with Anderson whatsoever.

    I am upset that Pop just didn't make any adjustments through this game, when Carlisle was running circles around us.

    In the end it matters not, Pop stuck to his guns and we won. It was a game we could have easily lost, but didn't. It feels better than the Wiz game. But the Wiz game, we lost because players didn't execute well.

    This had the feeling of a game where players executed, but Pop didn't make adjustments and just let them figure it out (or not)
    SAGirl, I am all in on your rant. World of difference between playing a hot Manu 21 minutes and a dead Manu 28. Lunacy. Pop seemed to be in reactive mode all night, never putting a lineup on the floor to force Carlisle's hand. Plus, he didn't even react well! Shoot, with a 12 point lead put in Boban and just feed him every time. See what happens for a couple of minutes. May get Zaza or Javale into foul trouble and give LMA and Timmy more la ude when they re-enter. Anything would have been a better game plan than the one Pop apparently didn't have.
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    Love that D.West is contributing. Solid, solid, player.

    Finally.

    I was getting worried as problems were not going to be fixed by his mobility.
    David really needs to understand situations to be his most effective.

    Thats a couple of solid games now. Keep it going.

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    I am cooled down now.

    I guess its the tough road for Kyle.

    In the end will make him better.
    This. Pop will push him, and see how he responds... he did it with Tony, Manu and a whole lot of players... Kyle will be fine.

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    Of course he trusts Manu, Tony and Tim to close out games more than anybody else. That shouldn't be surprising at all after a decade of these guys. Pop really doesn't care if Manu is hot or cold or playing well or not, he knows that he can execute when the game is on the line. He's not going to get nervous, he's going to play defense, etc. Same with Tim and Tony.

    Manu played a few more minutes tonight because it was a damn close game in the last 5 mins, and so Pop wanted experienced people out there. I wouldn't read too much into it. If we're up 20, he probably plays just 17-20 mins...

    It might not be fair, but it shouldn't be surprising with Pop at the helm...
    Nailed.

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    This is shaping up as a Back to the Future season.
    I was looking at the number yesterday & they are similar to 98-99 on both ends. Even Kawhi is performing at the same level as Tim.

    If you guys remember Tim wasn't the clear cut #1 in 97-98 & that was clear in the series against the Jazz where the Spurs could have won if Tim went for his instead of differing to Admiral (along w/ a healthy ******). In 98-99 he made it clear that it was his team just like Kawhi is doing this season. People were also saying the Spurs wouldn't win w/ Avery like folks are now saying w/ Tony.

    D-West also reminds me of Elie who was the offseason acquisition in the summer of 98.
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    I am cooled down now.

    I guess its the tough road for Kyle.

    In the end will make him better.

    I do think it shows Pop cares a whole lot about his development, that he's not letting him get away with 1 thing, 1 mistake.

    He has to be perfect.

    If that doesn't sap his confidence, I think we have us a player for the future after all.

    Cheers Kawhitstorm!
    Happy Thanksgiving all.
    Getting in a merry mood already.
    Spurs win.

    Just when I thought you were coming around you the bed.

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    On your television?
    It does online but not on the tv broadcast
    It also lets you choose on PS4, Xbox, and mobile. So I guess the only version that doesn't let you choose is if you order from a cable TV provider. I'd never tried it that way.

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    Also, Pop knows he's playing against probably the 2nd best coach in the league... Rick is very good in finding weak spots, so much more of a reason to roll with the older/experienced guys in crunch time.

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    I was looking at the number yesterday & they are similar to 98-99 on both ends. Even Kawhi is performing at the same level as Tim.
    Be just like Pop to revert to pounding the ball into the low post and relying on grinding defense just when the whole league falls in love with small ball.

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