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    Fallout 4 is pretty badly optimized, it actually can be a real bas on one's cpu.

    I play at 1920x1200... it's basically 1080p... I even mul ask with the game running and not a single slowdown, tbh... that's what I get... but if you do over 1080p, it might need more power...

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    It's not crucial, but I'm a huge fan of SSDs just for windows... especially since you can get a 128GB one for under $50 these days... nothing like booting up in like 6 secs if your mobo supports UEFI and fast boot.

    I ended up getting a 250GB SSD, but only 44GB are used right now by Windows, so you can definitely get away with a 128GB boot drive. I then added an extra 1TB harddrive for the games.

    I might end up swapping the 1TB for a 3-4 TB HD later down the road.

    Yeah, I'm a fan of SSD. Last few builds I've done were with small SSD for OS paired with large internal drive for data.

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    I play at 1920x1200... it's basically 1080p... I even mul ask with the game running and not a single slowdown, tbh... that's what I get... but if you do over 1080p, it might need more power...
    Are you playing in ultra though? The god rays and shadow distance settings have the potential to cause a lot of frame drops when maxed out. Most games ultra settings are straight gpu bound even at a low resolution like 1080p, but not FO4.

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    I'm using the "Geforce optimized" values for this 960:

    SSAO, FXAA, Ultra Shadow, Texture, Lighting... God Rays and Shadow distance are Medium and most of the rest are High...

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    I run everything ultra on my ASUS GTX 970 and i5-4690k OC'd to 4.4Ghz. Never drops below 60fps.

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    Fallout 4 is pretty badly optimized, it actually can be a real bas on one's cpu.

    I agree. It's essentially the same graphics as non-modded Skyrim but runs way slower. I'm running Skyrim with 60+ mods and an ENB and run 60 FPS no problem. Can't see how I'm gonna run graphics mods on FO4 with my 680.

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    What version of Windows do you recommend for gaming? Windows 7, 8.1?

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    What version of Windows do you recommend for gaming? Windows 7, 8.1?
    Windows 7, 8.1 and 10 all work well, tbh... The thing with 7 is that it's showing it's age with hardware compatibility. For example, if you have an UEFI motherboard, I highly recommend installing Windows under UEFI, which boots a lot faster, but the Win 7 installer is really buggy with UEFI. Windows 8.1 is just an ugly UI experience for desktop, IMO.

    What I did here is install Windows 8.1 in UEFI mode, then upgrade to Windows 10. Windows 10 is a lot closer to 7 in UI usability, has great support for newer hardware, and if you worry about privacy, just disable all the call home stuff (Cortana, Smart Screen, telemetry, etc).

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    Windows 7, 8.1 and 10 all work well, tbh... The thing with 7 is that it's showing it's age with hardware compatibility. For example, if you have an UEFI motherboard, I highly recommend installing Windows under UEFI, which boots a lot faster, but the Win 7 installer is really buggy with UEFI. Windows 8.1 is just an ugly UI experience for desktop, IMO.

    What I did here is install Windows 8.1 in UEFI mode, then upgrade to Windows 10. Windows 10 is a lot closer to 7 in UI usability, has great support for newer hardware, and if you worry about privacy, just disable all the call home stuff (Cortana, Smart Screen, telemetry, etc).
    Thanks. I have Windows 10 on two machines (with no issues), but I didn't know if there were any issues with a gaming pc.

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    Might as well just buy 10. It's still a little buggy being a new Windows, but it's eventually the os you want to have when DirectX 12 games roll out.

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    Right now I think I like 8.1 better than 10, however there are things that 10 does that will give it more legs into the future. It's an overall better OS with a slightly less thorough user experience at this point. I would probably go with 10, as I just upgraded my desktop to that.

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    Right now I think I like 8.1 better than 10, however there are things that 10 does that will give it more legs into the future. It's an overall better OS with a slightly less thorough user experience at this point. I would probably go with 10, as I just upgraded my desktop to that.
    Agreed. Tried to reinstall 8.1 and it kept timing out, ing POS Microsoft.

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    Holy newegg had the craziest deal I think I have ever seen today: an i5-4690k + EVGA Z97 Classified Board + 8 GB Kingston DDR3 RAM + Rainbow Six Siege gamecode for $285. The cpu itself is usually $230, that board is $300, the RAM is about $40, and the game is $60. The board's of course not worth $300, but it's one of the top Z97 boards out there.

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    Holy newegg had the craziest deal I think I have ever seen today: an i5-4690k + EVGA Z97 Classified Board + 8 GB Kingston DDR3 RAM + Rainbow Six Siege gamecode for $285. The cpu itself is usually $230, that board is $300, the RAM is about $40, and the game is $60. The board's of course not worth $300, but it's one of the top Z97 boards out there.
    Damn. Dirt cheap deal.

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    Damn. Dirt cheap deal.
    By the time I saw the email advertising it the sold out though, I bet it lasted less than 20 minutes.

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    I ended up getting a 250GB SSD, but only 44GB are used right now by Windows, so you can definitely get away with a 128GB boot drive. I then added an extra 1TB harddrive for the games.
    I don't get it, with all that free space on the SSD why not install the couple of games you might be playing at any given time on it too? I know as reformed console peasant you are used to long load times so a 7200 RPM HDD must feel superluminal in comparison, but installing to the SSD should cut maybe 40% off those load times.

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    reformed console peasant

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    Holy newegg had the craziest deal I think I have ever seen today: an i5-4690k + EVGA Z97 Classified Board + 8 GB Kingston DDR3 RAM + Rainbow Six Siege gamecode for $285. The cpu itself is usually $230, that board is $300, the RAM is about $40, and the game is $60. The board's of course not worth $300, but it's one of the top Z97 boards out there.
    4790k, EVGA Z97, 8 GB ram, RS for 399.00.. Sold out.

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    I don't get it, with all that free space on the SSD why not install the couple of games you might be playing at any given time on it too? I know as reformed console peasant you are used to long load times so a 7200 RPM HDD must feel superluminal in comparison, but installing to the SSD should cut maybe 40% off those load times.


    Mostly because games don't really benefit that much from SSDs. A modern game "load" routine isn't really loading a ton of , it's precomputing light maps, preloading textures on the GPU, decompressing geometry, initializing physics, etc...

    On the XLOL I also ran everything off the HDD too, because the difference with the DVD was obviously a lot.

    If I find a game that's really hitting up the HDD a lot or takes forever to load, sure, I'll install it on the SSD...

    Frankly, most games don't really last over a week these days, tbh... not worth the wear and tear on the SSD...

    And I was a reformed PC master race peasant before being a reformed console peasant

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    Mostly because games don't really benefit that much from SSDs. A modern game "load" routine isn't really loading a ton of , it's precomputing light maps, preloading textures on the GPU, decompressing geometry, initializing physics, etc...

    On the XLOL I also ran everything off the HDD too, because the difference with the DVD was obviously a lot.

    If I find a game that's really hitting up the HDD a lot or takes forever to load, sure, I'll install it on the SSD...

    Frankly, most games don't really last over a week these days, tbh... not worth the wear and tear on the SSD...

    And I was a reformed PC master race peasant before being a reformed console peasant
    GTA V loads a lot faster off my 850 EVO than my WD Black.

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    GTA V loads a lot faster off my 850 EVO than my WD Black.
    BF4 is a pretty good advantage too.

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    GTA V loads a lot faster off my 850 EVO than my WD Black.
    That's cool. I played it on the 360 back in the day, but I wanna get it on the PC to replay it when there's nothing to play in March or so...

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    That's cool. I played it on the 360 back in the day, but I wanna get it on the PC to replay it when there's nothing to play in March or so...
    GTA V has probably the best pc port I have ever seen. The framerate is smooth as and the graphics are huge upgrades vs XBone and PS4 much less 360. It runs way better than Fallout 4 or Witcher 3 while also looking better too. It's the anti Arkham Knight (LOL Warner Brothers gave up on ever even supporting SLI in AK).

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    GTA V has probably the best pc port I have ever seen. The framerate is smooth as and the graphics are huge upgrades vs XBone and PS4 much less 360. It runs way better than Fallout 4 or Witcher 3 while also looking better too. It's the anti Arkham Knight (LOL Warner Brothers gave up on ever even supporting SLI in AK).
    I have to check it out. Witcher 3 so far the GOAT graphics since I went back to PC gaming...

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    I have to check it out. Witcher 3 so far the GOAT graphics since I went back to PC gaming...
    I will say the lighting is probably better in Witcher 3, especially inside. But the open world looks better in GTA V imo.

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