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Great comeback,,,you've convinced us all,,,,
Yeap... that must be the case.
Great comeback,,,you've convinced us all,,,,
Nice work changing the goalposts from claiming initially that pic of Yemen child brides wasn't even real. How you explain this, your prominent and influential Islamic leaders want child rape, is this story lying then, tell us what really happened oh Great Dirty Sand Niqqer..
http://jeromiewilliams.com/2013/09/10/2385/
The girl, identified only by the name Rawan, died in Hardh in the governorate of Hajjah in northwestern Yemen, according to a report issued by UPI on Sunday, Sept. 8.
Activists in the region want to put an end to the practice of marrying young girls, and have called for police to arrest the girl’s husband and family. Nevertheless, the forced marriage of child brides in Yemen remains a socially accepted custom in many rural areas.
Indeed, the practice has deep cultural and religious roots, and is widespread in Yemen. A February 2009 law set the minimum age for marriage at 17, but it was repealed after some conservative lawmakers called it un-Islamic. In particular, a prominent Islamic cleric, Abdulmajeed al-Zindani, issued a fatwa in support of the practice, declaring supporters of a ban on child brides to be apostates, and ultimately leading a successful campaign against legislation that would prevent adult men from marrying children.
At least Jesus didn't rape.
Ghazi,,,one ounce of proof that a supreme being exists would be nice,,,,
Actually I think even the negative attention has created more reverts. ISIS though not islamic for example is full of new reverts.
I'm saying the actuall anti-islam sentiments in the media is not working..For some reason people are still reverting left and right despite the negative PR.
pretty shocking.
Ghazi, where you at sand ...
"you can't rape a 12 year old bro, she wanted it"
You either believe it or you dont, it is not a scientific and mathematical concept.
daesh recruits are mercenaries, thugs, criminals, ignorant. It is not religous zeal or an Islamic awakening that guides their behavior
I agree most of ther recruits are criminals but deash does have tons of reverts wolho end up regreting their decision.
My point being even with a nightmare PR like Deash Islam is still growing. Thats pretty incredible.
Marriages in 7th century Arabia had political
overtones. Aishas marriage was definitely political to strengthen tie between Abu Bakr and Muhammad. Muhammad married 2 of his daughters to Uthman and anothet to Ali. Such was the way things worked back then. The marriage concept of today is dramatically different. Its likely that Muhammad was not even that active sexually. He stuck with one women then in his 50s had as many as 9 wives due to the aforementioned politics. Given that he didnt have a ton of kids its very likely he didnt have much sex. and 0% he had sex with Aisha while she was under 10. Her age was likely 12-18 and she exhibited no signs of sexual abuse. If she was raped as a 6 year old it wouldve manifested its ugly head, instead she turned out to be a scholar of Islam.
Islam does have a mass appeal but its growth may be due to other factors rather than the intrigue of the religion... ie, lots of large families in Islamic countries, rapidly growing populations.
Being a Muslim is a simple concept. Some atheists are closer to being "Muslim" than some Muslims themselves.
Islam attaches nothing to its Godhead (Allah). It says the Creator of the Universe, of life that originates from water, of the solar system, of the galaxies and stars, of the animals and humans, has no attachments. The Quran may have some "limitations", specific verses reference historical events and early Islamic battles, and theres a sprinkle of stories about Moses, Yusuf, and others... but behind the verses (which are sublime in original Arabic) there are subtle codes and lessons and meanings... throughout the book, there is consistency in its approach. It truly is a surreal book, it is not as if anyone could've just came up with a Quran. The sublimity and purity of the verses was the initial recruiting tool. The challenge in the Quran was given to the Arabs of the time, a people marveled by language and poetry, to "produce a chapter or 10 chapters like it"... that challenge was never met.At least Jesus didn't rape.
The main flaw with Christianity is that a man by the name of Jesus has a share in the Godhead, which is completely irrational.
Trying to move the goalposts over and over. With yet more vague speculations, common moves of delusional religious fanatics. So even if she was 10 when he had sex with her, that's rape you ing re ed raghead. Its hilarious to watch you squirm when presented with facts. And you still have yet to refute that Islam is based on and supports rape at its inception and today, as numerous stories report from countries near the heart of Islam Mecca. Aren't you lucky there was no social media in 7th century Arabia, I have no doubt the rape of Aisha is but the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Pedomuhammad.
Is this gibberish from your book of fairy tales...
Islam is based on Tauhid, not
rape
I think what transformed Islam in modern history is the Salafi movement which adherents strictly interpret the hadiths.
That's false. Salafi interpret both the Quran and The Hadith.
A salafi can be a rightous Muslim and many of them are if not most. The issue with salafism is that it relies soley on the individual interpretation of the Hadith and Quran. This would work in the early days of Islam and the their Golden age because people had better understanding.
A salafi can be sunni too..but a sunni cant be a salafi.
The problem with salafism is that it takes away the sheiks or the imams as advisors. The individual relies on his thought to come ul with a conclusion..this is fine if people respected each other takes similar to the golden age of islam, but its disastrous if people dont.
Mainstream shia and sunnis heabvily rely on respected scholars for interpretation.
Disagree in the fact that one can follow the Koran but not be a salafi while a salafi has to strictly follow the hadiths with the Koran and they give the Hadiths equal importance to the Koran by strictly following both. A lot of them are non-violent but the Wahabbis, Taliban, and ISIS take it to another level by strictly imposing the Hadiths on the people which is wrong especially when not all of the Hadiths are not authenticated.
Haodths and Quran are given equal value because they dont really contradict each other. Two things that you have to remeber here, The Hadith though not the Quran have commandments that are directly from Allah and the Allah commands people to follow the prophets way..the hadith plays in with the former.
Both shia and sunni hadiths have no straight up contradiction with the quran...what is outlined in the hadith is not in the quran for example.
Basically the hadith in its purest terms is the prophets interpretation of how Islam should be practiced.
Its a matter of daily life or fiqh as they call it...You are right there is many erranous hadith, but these can be spotted but the mainstream might not be able to spot a weak or false hadith and this is where an average salafi might falter.
Quranist in essense are not Muslims and this is accepted by both Shia and Sunni Muslims..its pretty clear the quran tells muslims to follow their prophets commands and many of his commands is not in the quran.
A large part pf islamic eschatology for example directly comes from hadith.
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