Spurs winning with ELITE defense

[dabom]

I'm loving it.

[dabom]

With Kawhi getting more buckets, Tim is allowed to expend more energy on defense. And LMA gets a piece of all that too. He hustles on D and O. If any of those slack, the other 2 pick it up for them. And Tony playing good too.

[spursistan]

Our front-court is too overwhelming, tbh..look at Zaza Pachluia numbers coming into this game. He was made a total non-factor (0 rebs after getting in double digit the last 4 )..

Wed 11/25	@ SA	L 83-88	21	1-4	.250	0-0	.000	2-2	1.000	0	0	0	0	4	1	4
Tue 11/24	@ MEM	L 96-110	28	2-6	.333	0-1	.000	9-10	.900	10	3	0	1	3	3	13
Sun 11/22	@ OKC	L 114-117	34	4-8	.500	0-0	.000	4-7	.571	10	6	3	1	5	5	12
Fri 11/20	vs UTAH	W 102-93	39	6-11	.545	0-0	.000	3-4	.750	12	4	0	2	2	1	15
Wed 11/18	@ BOS	W 106-102	32	5-7	.714	0-0	.000	4-4	1.000	12	3	1	0	3	4	14

[Tbiggums47]

Great insight. The Warriors are a great team but 2 things: 1. Although they won they championship last season. They were never seriously tested IMO. 2. I hope they continue to believe all the hype about themselves because to me they are champions by default. And as the media does every year The Spurs have injury issues... They are simply dismissed as old and done when in reality... This team was the previous years champions coming off of back to back finals. By default The Warriors are placed as the new standard... Along with other teams who backed into their status bcause of the health issues of The Spurs. I think this premature hype will dissipate when The Healthy Spurs team emerges to prove that The Warriors rise while impressive is premature IMO.

[Johnny RIngo]

Defense is 1st in DRtg. Offense is 10th in ORtg. Not bad for an early season start but SA needs to be much better on O to beat Golden State I think.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Great insight. The Warriors are a great team but 2 things: 1. Although they won they championship last season. They were never seriously tested IMO. 2. I hope they continue to believe all the hype about themselves because to me they are champions by default. And as the media does every year The Spurs have injury issues... They are simply dismissed as old and done when in reality... This team was the previous years champions coming off of back to back finals. By default The Warriors are placed as the new standard... Along with other teams who backed into their status bcause of the health issues of The Spurs. I think this premature hype will dissipate when The Healthy Spurs team emerges to prove that The Warriors rise while impressive is premature IMO.

Its amazing to me that a 12-3 Spurs team is flying under the radar but that is the level of sucking that GS is getting

[SAGirl]

Great insight. The Warriors are a great team but 2 things: 1. Although they won they championship last season. They were never seriously tested IMO. 2. I hope they continue to believe all the hype about themselves because to me they are champions by default. And as the media does every year The Spurs have injury issues... They are simply dismissed as old and done when in reality... This team was the previous years champions coming off of back to back finals. By default The Warriors are placed as the new standard... Along with other teams who backed into their status bcause of the health issues of The Spurs. I think this premature hype will dissipate when The Healthy Spurs team emerges to prove that The Warriors rise while impressive is premature IMO.

[DMC]

It's really naive to think the team with the best record in the league in the RS, and who won the NBA championship wasn't ever "really tested". They played over 100 games. They were tested.

[r0drig0lac]

It's really naive to think the team with the best record in the league in the RS, and who won the NBA championship wasn't ever "really tested". They played over 100 games. They were tested.

I agree, I think people just do not want to see reality, this gsw team appears to be one of the most complete teams ever, especially for the current set of rules, they have no apparent failures ....so far.

[DMC]

I agree, I think people just do not want to see reality, this gsw team appears to be one of the most complete teams ever, especially for the current set of rules, they have no apparent failures ....so far.

If they have a weakness it's not a bad one; they get a big lead and they play monkey ball until they give up the lead. So far it's not cost them a game.

[ducks]

Defense is 1st in DRtg. Offense is 10th in ORtg. Not bad for an early season start but SA needs to be much better on O to beat Golden State I think.

Please let pop think he know more then u

[BillMc]

With Kawhi getting more buckets, Tim is allowed to expend more energy on defense. And LMA gets a piece of all that too. He hustles on D and O. If any of those slack, the other 2 pick it up for them. And Tony playing good too.

This.

[Tbiggums47]

It's really naive to think the team with the best record in the league in the RS, and who won the NBA championship wasn't ever "really tested". They played over 100 games. They were tested.

im merely suggesting that Golden State DID NOT have to beat "Elite Teams" in their le run. I didn't say they weren't good. Don't get it twisted my friend. There isn't any "nativity" in that statement. It's a fact.....No disrespect. Spurs,clippers,OKC? ��??? Think about it!

[Mel_13]

[DMC]

im merely suggesting that Golden State DID NOT have to beat "Elite Teams" in their le run. I didn't say they weren't good. Don't get it twisted my friend. There isn't any "nativity" in that statement. It's a fact.....No disrespect. Spurs,clippers,OKC? ??? Think about it!

It's bull . The elite team won the ring, and they've proven that by being 17-0 this season. The Spurs couldn't get over the Clippers who couldn't get over the Rockets who couldn't get over the Warriors. That's how the tiers work.

Let's talk elite for a second:

1. Spurs had to win the last RS game against the ty Pelicans. They couldn't thus they didn't get the right matchup.
2. Golden State beat the Pelicans 4-0 in the playoffs.
3. That eliminates the Spurs as being "elite" this season, compared to the Warriors.
4. Warriors only lost 3 games en route to the Finals.
5. The team that beat the team that beat us only won ONE game against the Warriors.

So who were these elite teams?

Dallas?
Clippers?

No.

You're hemming and hawing around to say the Spurs were the elite team. They got their pushed in by the team that couldn't beat a washed up JSmoove and Jason ing Terry, who won only one game against the eventual champs.

Delusional people infest these types of forums. Just change the names in the post to "Lakers" and "Kobe" and it's indistinguishable from LG.com.

[Tbiggums47]

It's bull . The elite team won the ring, and they've proven that by being 17-0 this season. The Spurs couldn't get over the Clippers who couldn't get over the Rockets who couldn't get over the Warriors. That's how the tiers work.

Let's talk elite for a second:

1. Spurs had to win the last RS game against the ty Pelicans. They couldn't thus they didn't get the right matchup.
2. Golden State beat the Pelicans 4-0 in the playoffs.
3. That eliminates the Spurs as being "elite" this season, compared to the Warriors.
4. Warriors only lost 3 games en route to the Finals.
5. The team that beat the team that beat us only won ONE game against the Warriors.

So who were these elite teams?

Dallas?
Clippers?

No.

You're hemming and hawing around to say the Spurs were the elite team. They got their pushed in by the team that couldn't beat a washed up JSmoove and Jason ing Terry, who won only one game against the eventual champs.

Delusional people infest these types of forums. Just change the names in the post to "Lakers" and "Kobe" and it's indistinguishable from LG.com.

No DMC. YOU ARE WRONG. Look at that schedule. Who have they been dominating? Cupcakes!! You are seriously, Misinterpreting my take. And your take is totally bull ... LOL....What I'm saying IS: The Spurs are a year removed from being NBA champions AND with back to back finals appearances... AND that's a fact JACK. You can discount those facts anyway you want to.... IMO injuries led to GSW le run.... And whether you See it that way or not is YOUR perspective. So I won't allow YOU and any GSW Buttlickers Dismiss this team as a has been... YOU CANT DO IT. IMO until Proven different. And Yes.... This year they'll have to prove it.....And if you haven't noticed Da Spurs a a pretty good defensive team...N And I believe they'll only get better. Last time I checked this was a forum to place an opinion. RIGHT?No disrespect as I Said before..... I happen to believe you are wrong.... But time will tell us the truth!.. Delusional or not... Stop the hating....Peace!

[kawhidoyoudothistome]

It's bull . The elite team won the ring, and they've proven that by being 17-0 this season. The Spurs couldn't get over the Clippers who couldn't get over the Rockets who couldn't get over the Warriors. That's how the tiers work.

Let's talk elite for a second:

1. Spurs had to win the last RS game against the ty Pelicans. They couldn't thus they didn't get the right matchup.
2. Golden State beat the Pelicans 4-0 in the playoffs.
3. That eliminates the Spurs as being "elite" this season, compared to the Warriors.
4. Warriors only lost 3 games en route to the Finals.
5. The team that beat the team that beat us only won ONE game against the Warriors.

So who were these elite teams?

Dallas?
Clippers?

No.

You're hemming and hawing around to say the Spurs were the elite team. They got their pushed in by the team that couldn't beat a washed up JSmoove and Jason ing Terry, who won only one game against the eventual champs.

Delusional people infest these types of forums. Just change the names in the post to "Lakers" and "Kobe" and it's indistinguishable from LG.com.

We were the nightmare MU for them in last year's PO run. Sadly, we could not get our together and lost to an ailing CP3 and ing Austin Rivers. We by far have the greatest chance against them this season, though Cleveland is always a threat.

[DMC]

We were the nightmare MU for them in last year's PO run. Sadly, we could not get our together and lost to an ailing CP3 and ing Austin Rivers. We by far have the greatest chance against them this season, though Cleveland is always a threat.

Ok maybe the Wizards are the nightmare matchup for the Spurs. What does that even mean? It doesn't make the Spurs the better team in the scheme of 30 teams in an 82 game season. If we cannot get past the 1st round, we aren't the "elite" team they dodged.

[DMC]

No DMC. YOU ARE WRONG. Look at that schedule. Who have they been dominating? Cupcakes!! You are seriously, Misinterpreting my take. And your take is totally bull ... LOL....What I'm saying IS: The Spurs are a year removed from being NBA champions AND with back to back finals appearances... AND that's a fact JACK. You can discount those facts anyway you want to.... IMO injuries led to GSW le run.... And whether you See it that way or not is YOUR perspective. So I won't allow YOU and any GSW Buttlickers Dismiss this team as a has been... YOU CANT DO IT. IMO until Proven different. And Yes.... This year they'll have to prove it.....And if you haven't noticed Da Spurs a a pretty good defensive team...N And I believe they'll only get better. Last time I checked this was a forum to place an opinion. RIGHT?No disrespect as I Said before..... I happen to believe you are wrong.... But time will tell us the truth!.. Delusional or not... Stop the hating....Peace!

Jesus ing Christ you re ed got, learn to type.

[kawhidoyoudothistome]

Ok maybe the Wizards are the nightmare matchup for the Spurs. What does that even mean? It doesn't make the Spurs the better team in the scheme of 30 teams in an 82 game season. If we cannot get past the 1st round, we aren't the "elite" team they dodged.

I never said they were lol. I'd agree with not wanting to face Washington. I hate how well Washington can hit threes against us. We may not be the "elite" team they dodged, but we were the team they didn't want to face...or maybe they did just to see if they could beat us in a 7 game series. They're emulating us. Mus are MUs. We MU well with them, man. Our two best wing defenders regularly do well against them.

[Tbiggums47]

Jesus ing Christ you re ed got, learn to type.

LOL.....
Just what I thought..... You are an Incompetent Imbecile.... LOL... If I can't type? How were you able to read it? You Dumbass!!! Here's a penny..... Please buy a clue. I'll learn to type when you learn to think rationally...OK?? Again NO Disrespect... YOU ARE WRONG!!!! Obviously you can't respond with any intelligence .... BUT name calling.... Delusional....Right?

[Agloco]

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It's bull . The elite team won the ring, and they've proven that by being 17-0 this season. The Spurs couldn't get over the Clippers who couldn't get over the Rockets who couldn't get over the Warriors. That's how the tiers work.

Let's talk elite for a second:

1. Spurs had to win the last RS game against the ty Pelicans. They couldn't thus they didn't get the right matchup.
2. Golden State beat the Pelicans 4-0 in the playoffs.
3. That eliminates the Spurs as being "elite" this season, compared to the Warriors.
4. Warriors only lost 3 games en route to the Finals.
5. The team that beat the team that beat us only won ONE game against the Warriors.

So who were these elite teams?

Dallas?
Clippers?

No.

You're hemming and hawing around to say the Spurs were the elite team. They got their pushed in by the team that couldn't beat a washed up JSmoove and Jason ing Terry, who won only one game against the eventual champs.

Delusional people infest these types of forums. Just change the names in the post to "Lakers" and "Kobe" and it's indistinguishable from LG.com.

I get your point but I'm disappointed to see an "A>B and B>C thus A>C" post from you. I happen to agree with the premise that GS was/is elite, but you can't build your argument using that kind of logic. Sports matchups are a bit more involved than that.

Simply pointing at advanced stats shows us pretty much everything we need to know.

[Kool Bob Love]

DMC hasn't been the same without Thread.

[Yuixafun]

If the Warriors are some all time dominant great team, how did Lebron James and company of scrubs win 2 ing games against them.

The fact that the Warriors faced teams with significant injuries to key players made it an easier run to their ring.

The fact that they didn't play the Spurs, who just weeks before defeated them in emphatic fashion, with KL basically sealing his DPOY by making Curry look average, and collecting 7 steals, made it easier for the Warriors. Belief is an invaluable thing, and I don't think last year the Warriors deep down believed they would beat the Spurs, just because of our previous recent successes, our coaching and personnel.

They may now.

And even if all the teams were healty and they played the Spurs, the Warriors still might have won it all.

Then no one could say anything. But there were mitigating factors.

So if people want to put an asterisk next to the Spurs NBA Championship during the lock out shortened year... Then it, let us put hand gesture quotation marks when we say NBA Championship Warriors, because they were fully healthy while everyone else was down strong players, and they didn't go through their biggest foil, the Spurs.

The Cavs won 2 game with just Lebron and a broken team, an inferior coach, and no one to defend Stephen Curry. You don't the Spurs would have done maybe a little better, like 2 more wins better, when they're that close to a back back Championship against a darling team first time in the deep waters?

[Solid D]

I agree! The Spurs do have an elite defense. The best they've had in many years and they are getting better. The Warriors also have an excellent defensive team. Why discredit them? GS currently ranks 6th (Spurs 4th) in Opp FG% and the Warriors defend the arc better than any team in the NBA at .294 (Spurs 6th .328). In defensive efficiency, the Spurs are 1st at 93.4 (GS is 5th 96.4). The Spurs are dominant this year in defensive rebounding, leading the league DR efficiency at 80.4. The Warriors are no slouches at blocks/gm ranking them 3rd at 6.4/gm (Spurs 4th 6.3)...however, the Warriors see more opponent trips per game than the Spurs do, due to the high pace at which GS plays.
Another great stat is the Spurs at currently ranked 3rd in fewest allowed fast break pts/gm at 10.3. That has got to please coach Hammon and the rest of the Spurs' coaching staff.