But but Bird wouldn't fair well against todays athletes![]()
This isn't even decent hyperbole from apa's sock.
But but Bird wouldn't fair well against todays athletes![]()
If you're talking about putting him on a team of scrubs, he would've had his ass handed to him by the Celtics and Lakers just like Jordan did.
D-Wade's, KG's, and Dirk's own mothers don't have them above Larry Legend.
When you are trying to discredit a widely held belief by everyone but you, the burden of proof is on you to prove why he should be ranked lower, not us to validate his high ranking, so show us something definitive, or gtfo
Hey Brazil, you should probably post that picture you found of Apa again and watch him go snitch to the mods![]()
Do people really not know how much participation in basketball has grown since Bird and Jordan's generation? Not just in America but worldwide.
Bird-Jordan were 50's-60's babies, they grew up in a time where baseball was still the #1 sport in America, which is why Jordan originally gravitated towards it before playing basketball. Basketball was relatively unpopular, especially compared to how it is now. Guys were getting paid peanuts, Finals games were even being delayed on TV lmao.
There were 52 million TV sets in America by 1960 with just 850,000 cable subscribers, by 1980 it was probably double that, by 1997 there were 219 million sets in America, TV's became more affordable throughout the years as did cable tv, which most people could not afford.
Really people, educate yourself on how the affordability of TVs and the spread of cable, it put basketball on a world stage, the NBA did a great job of marketing the game which was almost non existent in Bird/Jordan's generation.
http://www.calcable.org/learn/history-of-cable/
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2007/...zashvili.shtml
"In the early 1970s, the FCC continued its restrictive policies by enacting regulations that limited the ability of cable operators to offer movies, sporting events, and syndicated programming."
"The 1984 Cable Act established a more favorable regulatory framework for the industry, stimulating investment in cable plant and programming on an unprecedented level.
Deregulation provided by the 1984 Act had a strong positive effect on the rapid growth of cable services. From 1984 through 1992, the industry spent more than $15 billion on the wiring of America, and billions more on program development. This was the largest private construction project since World War II."
It put basketball on a world stage, and with that you had generations of kids exposed to it, literally millions. The talent pool is ing massive compared to when Jordan-Bird played. Look at how many American kids have emulated Jordan, it was all due to cable TV. You can even use Vlade Divac as an example, look at all the European players that were inspired by him.
That's not even factoring in the millions of youth programs that have sprouted since then, you now have kids being groomed from young ages.
Ok, thats nice and all. But, I would still like to know the reasoning behind Wade, Dirk, Kobe, or Garnett above Bird. Go ahead.
I thought Vino was top 25 last season according to Kobestans
Bird and Jordan came up in areas where they practically put a basketball in your crib the day you were born. You think there was a shortage of players in the state of Indiana when Bird was coming up?
you cant reason with shtick
Bird was great in his time..tough to watch videos of him now, though, they don't age well, tbh..
You would have to be lying to yourself if you deny that being White elevated his legacy tremendously, though..nothing makes White people angrier than talking about ugly-ass Larry Bird..
nothing elevates your legacy like putting up huge numbers and winning, sparking a historic turnaround in your rookie season, etc
And being White![]()
Nothing wrong with that. White folks need heroes too, and it is satisfying to see a white man excel in what's known as a black man's game. White folks love Larry Bird and the movie Hoosiers for the same reasons.![]()
Nothing wrong with that, at all..spurraider always tries to deny obvious racial factors whenever it's brought up in any argument![]()
how many black NBA players have Larry's numbers/credentials/accomplishments but arent revered like he is?
Can you imagie jimmer freddette with a kawhi role? Hed be close consensus asnthe best player in the world.
The only "revered" Black players are Jordan(who is a White man with Black skin) and Magic, tbh..
It's just life, bro..nothing wrong with that, stop being so naive
Look at Serena Williams, for example..imagine she was White![]()
look up any top 10 nba players list and count the white players... most lists will just have bird. some lakerfan lists might have west.
even ancient players like russell, wilt are still highly regarded despite playing in a terrible era
Jimmer isn't even an NBA-caliber player, yet still has legions of fans, and teams are still giving him a shot..
I've always argued that Duncan is above Bird on All Time great lists but for some reason people still put Bird in their top 5,,,,Bird is top 10 though. As far as most overrated all time great of all time goes,,,that le belongs to Kobrick hands down and the legacy in flames tour is in full effect,,
So, you actually believe that being White didn't significantly help Larry Bird's legacy?
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