Did Avante die and reincarnate as KL2?
Not the type of crossovers/ball handler combos you see today where players utilize their explosive footwork with it.
You really think men that weighed 240+ could handle the ball like they do now?if you were 240+ chances are you were a stiff out there.
Griffin is 260+ and moves like a guard:
6'8 213lb PF, who's dad is this?
Not the type of crossovers/ball handler combos you see today where players utilize their explosive footwork with it.
You really think men that weighed 240+ could handle the ball like they do now?
Griffin is 260+ and moves like a guard:
KL2 has gone full Avante.
Probably not worth your time arguing with these re s. They are just trying to start , major attention s. It's the old say something controversial to get responses
You gotta be ing kidding me. Bird took a team full of Indiana State honkies to an undefeated season until running up against HIV- Magic in the national championship game. Bird is one of the top passing forwards in league history and had crazy range. Bird's still amazing to watch.Bird was great in his time..tough to watch videos of him now, though, they don't age well, tbh..
You would have to be lying to yourself if you deny that being White elevated his legacy tremendously, though..
Btw, when you can't hand check, you'll get burned. You need lateral movement in order to keep up with today's ball handlers, Jordan had never seen anything like Iverson before, now you've got even big men that can handle the ball on the perimeter. The act of crossing over requires you to start and stop, shift your weight and remain balanced, you need to be explosive to execute them especially when you're over 240lbs. Leonard's game is a lot like old school bball, but he's over 240lbs and shoots lights out, again, that's bigger than a lot of bigs from the 80s.
KL2 is presenting argument and all this johnmaks doing is going into ad hominem attacks.
You know when a poster starts withy ty ad hominem attacks they are pretty much sore losers.
I've always maintained Avante was a oldtimers sock puppet. Pretty sure KL2 is as well. Same bullheaded style, same takes. -flinging-turned- -smearing history-style lesson with every post.
The 80's was so full of white american players....that alone should be enough to indicate how poor the pool talent was.
Kyle anderson would have been an all time great if he played in the 80s
Bull aunt er. Neither you or KL2 have given any reasoning why Kobe, Garnett, dirk, or wade should be above bird. Neither of you will give reasoning because you know that isn't true and you can't build a solid case for it.
Present your argument dudd..you are terrible at rebuttaling kl2..mainly because there is no rebutall at the facr that todays players>80s players
Look at you with the Latin.
Too bad KL2 is quintessential non-sequitur.
Bird will be adam morrison 2.0 of he played in this era.
Oh..i cant rebutall time to go personal..
Bird would have a similar career to jimmer freddete if he played in today Black NBA...
Oh..i cant rebutall time to go personal
Bird would have a similar career to jimmer freddete if he played in today Black NBA...
if you're going to pull a shtick, at least do it right
I stopped bothering to rebut KL2 about 20 posts back. There's nothing to rebut.
A bunch of nonsense and nah-ahhhs on whether Bonner is a guard in a big man's body playing 25 years too late and whether or not one can extrapolate one clip of Jordan getting crossed over into a religion worshipping the modern (from 90s) crossover of Iverson.
Post the best ball handlers from the 80's and tell me their height/weight. 240lb men handling the ball and moving as fluidly as they do was unheard of in the 80's, they didn't exist because you needed to be an explosive athlete at that size in order to execute it with footwork.
I just showed you a 6'8 213lb PF, Kurt Rambis lol, sad thing is he was a stiff at that weight, not even an athlete lmao. FFS, Aldridge is considered soft as a PF and he's 6'11 270+ and is far more agile, you think you could play a PF like Rambis in today's league?
so you want to pull the whole he played in the 80's card right? Yet you have magic,Kareem, and Jordan on the list. All players in the same era as bird that bird was pretty successful against
Of cousrse bird is top 15...he was an influential personality. If were going to rank players based on skill alone Lebron will be the best of all time...it would be
Lebron
And maybe 300 other 00 and modern basketball players.
Curry would top 5.
MJ would be in the 50s..Bird and poor man MCW magic johnson would be in the 3000
This thread has gone full re .
Mot everything is about skill..bird wis for sure adam morrison if he played today. But his infulence and achievenet in his own era makes him top 15
This thread was full re from the start mate
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