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    Whiteside had a HIGHER PER LAST SEASON. He got sonned by Drummonds who has a lower PER b/c he doesn't get spoon fed like Whiteside. If you go by PERs Derrick Favors & Anus Kanter would be top 20 players
    PER aside ... I watched some Heat games and I just think that despite his coming out last season Whiteside is an unexpected difference maker that helps the Heat tremendously in the Eastern Conference ...

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    PER aside ... I watched some Heat games and I just think that despite his coming out last season Whiteside is an unexpected difference maker that helps the Heat tremendously in the Eastern Conference ...
    They got run out of the gym by the Cavs who were playing without Kyrie. Wade is done being a superstar, Bosh is overrated, Dragic is a bad fit. They have no chance against a healthy Cavs squad.

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    They got run out of the gym by the Cavs who were playing without Kyrie. Wade is done being a superstar, Bosh is overrated, Dragic is a bad fit. They have no chance against a healthy Cavs squad.
    They also don't have any shooting and their spacing is poor, which hurts Dragic's game even more..

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    in order for us to beat the Warriors he still needs to improve

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    Not impressed

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    in order for us to beat the Warriors he still needs to improve
    The entire spurs team needs to improve "offensively" if they want to beat Golden State, not just Leonard. They can't hide Parker on Barnes anymore like two years ago. Barnes is an excellent three point shooter and post up player now. They have a "small ball death lineup" designed to kill & destroy teams' hopes of beating them. They build 20-point leads so that their MVP Curry can rest in the 4th quarter. Their starters will be well rested come playoff time and their bench is getting valuable playing time.

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    Barnes already was a beast against Parker in the 2013 playoffs ... now the whole GS team is better

    As good as the defense is ... the gap to GS defense does not offset the gap from their offense to ours

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    What about Parker on Klay? I think I'd rather see Klay try to post up if it's between him and Barnes and obviously I'd rather Klay shoot 3s over Steph.

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    Important to remember that PER is a stat that consistently undervalues defense. So kawhi is even better than this stat shows.
    Kawhi is leading the league in Defense Player Rating I believe. He finished first last year as well. Kawhi is probably the best two way player in the league right now.

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    OKC is really only afloat through Durant & Westbrook BOTH having MVP'ish season so far. Curious to see whether it will hold up further down the season.

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    He would be the first Spurs player to finish in Top 5 in the league since Duncan in 2010 and first to register +25 PER since Timmy did in 2007..


    Hollinger Stats - Player Efficiency Rating - Qualified Players
    RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
    1 Stephen Curry, GS 18 34.3 .691 18.5 11.0 32.4 1.5 14.0 8.1 34.69 218.2 7.3
    2 Russell Westbrook, OKC 17 34.4 .575 25.6 13.5 36.7 6.9 16.0 11.6 31.72 180.9 6.0
    3 Kevin Durant, OKC 11 34.8 .662 11.6 9.3 28.5 0.9 22.3 12.0 31.61 120.7 4.0
    4 Blake Griffin, LAC 16 33.9 .590 16.1 7.8 29.3 6.8 20.4 13.7 28.60 138.3 4.6
    5 Kawhi Leonard, SA 16 34.4 .613 11.2 6.3 24.0 4.5 19.5 12.4 27.47 139.3 4.6
    6 DeMarcus Cousins, SAC 10 32.9 .564 8.2 10.8 34.0 7.8 29.6 18.5 27.17 77.0 2.6
    7 LeBron James, CLE 17 36.5 .565 20.3 9.6 31.7 4.3 18.2 11.5 27.01 152.7 5.1
    8 Hassan Whiteside, MIA 15 29.4 .603 1.9 15.2 19.4 11.6 29.5 20.9 26.53 104.9 3.5
    9 Anthony Davis, NO 14 34.6 .573 6.6 10.0 27.2 5.7 28.1 16.6 25.62 102.2 3.4
    10 Paul George, IND 15 35.8 .598 15.2 12.1 30.3 4.4 21.4 12.8 25.56 120.7 4.0
    RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
    11 James Harden, HOU 16 39.1 .578 17.2 13.3 33.5 2.6 14.9 8.7 25.53 140.5 4.7
    12 Derrick Favors, UTAH 14 30.8 .569 9.0 9.4 22.3 9.5 22.9 16.1 25.52 90.2 3.0
    PER is good stat but many on here posted it was overrated ...I wonder why? Kiwi has been great though eye test shows the same glad PER supports the same ... but I do question Blake Griffin above Kiwi ...

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    Important to remember that PER is a stat that consistently undervalues defense. So kawhi is even better than this stat shows.
    but everyone can see what Kiwi brings on defense his numbers on offense is what is impressive here.

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    PER is good stat but many on here posted it was overrated ...I wonder why? Kiwi has been great though eye test shows the same glad PER supports the same ... but I do question Blake Griffin above Kiwi ...
    Outside of his whining & flops, Blake has been playing great though. He is actually a playmaker nowadays, with nice all around skills, not just a stereotyped monkey baller of yesterday.

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    He would be the first Spurs player to finish in Top 5 in the league since Duncan in 2010 and first to register +25 PER since Timmy did in 2007...
    Having a player at that high level again would be fantastic for the Spurs.

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