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    Curry is 1st
    Parker right behind him.

    This is passes that lead to the pass that was the assist.

    Not sure what this means. It's probably a good thing. On one hand it could mean he is setting up the offense making a play which gets the defense moving resulting in a couple passes and a score. Or on the other hand it could be bad if your point guard is starting the play and only two passes are made before a shot. It could mean the offense as a whole isn't moving the ball enough or it could mean Parker is holding the ball so long that there is only time to make 2 passes before a shot.

    Overall though I am really happy that Parker is playing much better now than last year. It means nothing but good things going forward.

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    Secondary assist

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    Head of the snake

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    It's just as tangible a stat as any other.

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    If Curry leads then it can't be that bad. Truly shows that the offense thrives through TP. Solid stat imo.

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    it is not a bad thing ... that's for sure

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    If Curry leads then it can't be that bad. Truly shows that the offense thrives through TP. Solid stat imo.
    He passes it to the guy that passes it to Kawhi.

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    He passes it to the guy that passes it to Kawhi.
    Maybe so, and if Leonard's shot is falling then I hope so. i don't care who's hand it falls in as long as it's a W. Keep doing your thing TP.

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    Maybe so, and if Leonard's shot is falling then I hope so. i don't care who's hand it falls in as long as it's a W. Keep doing your thing TP.

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    Called a "hockey" assist...and is the epitome of "Good to Great".

    Very important in the Spurs system IMO. TP drives to the bucket and dumps it back to the wing....then the wing throws it to the corner for the wide open 3. We've all seen it a million times.

    Thank You very much....Spurs Win.

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    Hey he is passing so his haters cant say he is playing hero right???

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    Hey he is passing so his haters cant say he is playing hero right???
    Glad he accepted his role.

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    Glad he accepted his role.
    I think he accepted his role since last year already. This year he is more of putting into practice.

    Plus Kawhi is playing like a MVP.

    I think if you want to find a player to on.. pick on LMA

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    That means that one of play the spurs use the most is :
    - Tony on the side trying to give it to a post up player down low (LMA, Diaw, Kawhi, Duncan)
    - Tony waiting the defender of the post up player to advance to try to deny the ball
    - Tony passing at the other big at the free throw line
    - The other big passing to the post up player inside
    - The post up player scores and the big at the free throw line get the assist

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    Called a "hockey" assist...and is the epitome of "Good to Great".

    Very important in the Spurs system IMO. TP drives to the bucket and dumps it back to the wing....then the wing throws it to the corner for the wide open 3. We've all seen it a million times.

    Thank You very much....Spurs Win.
    Exactly, the two morons trying to downplay this statistic don't realize this has been a staple of the Spurs offense for nearly as long as Tony and Manu have been in San Antonio. It is also something that Golden State/Steve Kerr heavily emphasizes in their offense. It wouldn't shock me to find out that Tony and Manu have been ranked high on any statistic that measures this especially when they've always been the primary playmakers on the team.

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    Maybe so, and if Leonard's shot is falling then I hope so. i don't care who's hand it falls in as long as it's a W. Keep doing your thing TP.
    This

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    Called a "hockey" assist...and is the epitome of "Good to Great".

    Very important in the Spurs system IMO. TP drives to the bucket and dumps it back to the wing....then the wing throws it to the corner for the wide open 3. We've all seen it a million times.

    Thank You very much....Spurs Win.
    Exactly.

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    The irrational hater clique will always have a pat response for anything Parker related. One day, it's the mythology of "Hero-ball," and the next day, it's saying the secondary assist doesn't matter. Ridiculous. The secondary assist is the foundation of the so-called beautiful game, of ball movement, of team sharing, so it won't jibe with the philosophy of always favoring one individual player over another. Mocking the secondary assist is the most fundamental sign of being a vanilla player fan there is. Ah, irony... ain't it grand?

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    what an antiguated reaction of a main stream vanilla fan player tbh... Quite typical reaction tho of an old school fan who cannot understand new analytics and advanced metrics...

    Time to get up to speed grand'pa

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    "The Spurs lead the league in passes per game despite playing at the 8th slowest pace, yet even that stat doesn’t seem to do the Spurs justice. What makes their high passing numbers more impressive is how well they move the ball back and forth from one side of the court to the other. It’s almost as if their goal is to quickly read a checklist of options on one side of the court and if nothing opens up, the ball gets swung around to the other side for that checklist to start over."

    http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2015/11/...r-than-anyone/

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    No. Parker, especially the last 4-5 games has been passing early off his penetrations, throwing defenses off as they don't expect him to pass so early off his drives. Like I mentioned before, I notice Parker was having like 4-5+ hockey assist per game. Atlanta tried to shut him down by trapping him early on his drives on Sat. He only had like one turnover off those traps and the most part got his passes off to the open man. Hawks would rotate and then one more pass saw an open shooter for the Spurs.

    One of note was in the 3rd quarter when the Hawks trapped Parker on the wing. He flung it to Duncan at the top of the key almost immediately. Duncan drove it to the hoop. At the last second he passed off to LMA for a wide open baseline jumper. This is just one example of many. Teams don't know how to defend the Spurs with Parker playing the way he has. They get lost in their rotations early in the shot clock instead of Parker dribbling until the Shot clock is almost expired and attempting some desperation shot or pass.

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    While Tony hasn't exactly morphed into Steve Nash 2.0, he has certainly made obvious adjustments in his game. Not sure why so many here are desperate to deny that.

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    Not sure what this means.
    ing serious bro?

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    Parker has always been a top player in secondary assists during most of his career... even though metrics has been followed more strictly since 4-5 years, some early analysis were showing what you could see watching the game.

    The integration of this rather new metrics into agregate stat... will change the way people look at Parker's career for the better. New stuff will come that should also help recognize the benefits of opponent guards chasing Parker's around off the ball through 2 / 3 screens for instance, this particular area where Parker is great at is underrated and not properly measured.

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    On a side note, NBA miner has some interesting stuff

    Despite his old age, speed average (mph) of Parker is still great (top 9 of the league), better than Curry for instance. For a shooting first guard, he is top 10 of the league of passes per 36.

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