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And athleticism. Quick! Think of all the non-athletic players in the league you want the spurs to acquire.
Yes... he has talent. By default, he has more potential.
And athleticism. Quick! Think of all the non-athletic players in the league you want the spurs to acquire.
He's a scrub. You ers always go ga ga over scrubs when they put on a Spurs jersey.
They would not be Spurs scrubs unless they would have porential.
I wouldn't turn away Brook Lopez
Simmons is the most athletic player on the team. He has a lot of potential. He just wasn't use to the speed of the game in the NBA and it showed in the preseason. Even on Friday he had a lot of Turnovers. But those should go down once he learns to pass off his penetration when teams collapse on him.
Honestly, he can beat pretty much almost any player in the NBA off the dribble, that is how quick, strong and athletic he is. Problem is, in the NBA, the help defense is much quicker than the D league and SL. He is just needs to learn to locate the open man earlier on his drives.
He will definitely replace Manu as the Spurs 6th man. But like I said, he just didn't have the same experience as Manu when he first came to the Spurs. So Simmons is more of a WIP at this point and needs the experience. Saw a vast improvement on Firday, despite the TOs.
I agree that he has the speed and athleticism that'll be any other NBA in an individual situation. That is the key though. In the last game he was able to score when someone like Leonard got doubled team. In short, if there's just one player defending him, he can finish with a high percentage. He can make a good living just cutting to the basket and receiving a pass in the process. What won't work for him is the kind of plays in D-league where he just beats his man off the dribble. That's kind of play is where his turnovers are coming from. He just isn't used to the quickness and skill of NBA players.
They come and go just like on every other team.
He is showing some signs of why the Spurs kept him around, after playing like total dog in the preseason. Reading more than that into what he's done is just silly.
In other words, he's like every other player in the D-League. And that's why most of them never spend a minute in the NBA. Definitely replace Manu? If he did, your head would explode, and you would be one of the first to call for Pop to be fired.
BTW - nobody gave that experience to Manu, before he came to the Spurs. He got that experience because he was better at 18 years old than Simmons is right now. That's just a fact.
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I really hope he can continue to play more. His athleticism is something the spurs lack, he just plays out of control sometimes. It might sound crazy but I can also see him doing a decent job defensively on westbrook.
His best defensive play in preseason was completely denying Harden the ball for a huge chunk of the shot clock. I think he was kept on almost solely for that sequence.
I love Simmons. But to think he'll replace Manu??? Wow. Thats some serious optimism.
More Manu's role than Manu himself.
I'm kind of surprised to hear that from you. Manu's role is a first-off-the bench kind of guy, and a finisher. I figured Simmons was being looked at as sort of a safety-valve. Someone they could afford to keep and develop in case of an injury.
So you really think Simmons has the juice to play a Manu kind of role in the future? I know you see a lot more of these guys. I haven't seen much in him other than what I see in a lot of D-League guys. But I trust your take, if serious.
Nobody will ever replace Manu. Spurs would be hard press to have another Manu on this team ever again at SG. Manu will be in the Basketball HOF. Not saying Simmons will ever be Manu. But Simmons should fit the bill as a traditional 6th man, a player that can come in a provide a spark with his speed and athleticism. Manu is going to retire someday. And Simmons at least showed flashes of his potential as Manu's future replacement at the guard position coming off the bench.
His defensive rotations were better. His passing was better. His finishing at the rim was better. He was noticeably better than the horrendous preseason performance he put together. Still had mistakes, but those will be fewer hopefully as he progresses.
This is the hope, however faint. No one is saying it's a lock, but no one else's game really resembles Manu's on this team. Having a guy with some potential who is and has been willing to put up with the development process for peanuts is all the Spurs can realistically hope for. We can wish he was younger but he's here now. The Spurs have to expect Manu to retire after this season. I'm sure they will try to mitigate the loss through free agency, but they want to do something in the meantime, too.
Potential does not man it will be realized.
Spurs development staff will turn Simmons into a marginal NBA player.
He's athletically better than Manu. He's got some good passing instincts but not likely he'll be anything like Manu. He can finish with either hand, that's better than almost every other player in the Spurs roster. He also knows how to slash using different angles. Most other players can't see the angles and only do so in a way they are comfortable with. In summary, his athleticism and natural feel for the game gives him a lot of potential. The downside is that he's 26 years old and likely hasn't received a lot of good basketball instruction. His basketball IQ isn't also at the level of Manu or Boris. I would say that its slightly above Danny Green.
Simmons will prove extremely valuable in guarding many of the quickest guards in the league. He isn't as long as Green, but at above 6'4" he has decent size.
Damn I love it when a basketball discussion breaks out.
We should all do this again sometime.
True. He's the only one I see on the roster that doesn't have significant disadvantages against a player like westbrook. Doesn't give up size or athleticism.
The last time I remember getting excited about one of these deep-bench project guys was Garrett Temple. The prospect of a 6'6" PG was just too much to resist. And he showed "flashes" of being good. I let myself see what I wanted him to be more than what he really was.
Quin Snyder liked him enough I Austin to talk about bringing him to Utah. He's gotten a bunch of D-League call ups. And he got what? a 2-year contract from the Wizards? I wish I was that good. But Temple isn't changing the fortunes of the Wizards in any noticeable way. And that was sort of my assessment of what to expect from Simmons. But if he does turn into much more than that, it will be yet another example of the Spurs' knack for recognizing and developing diamonds in the rough. Hopefully I will be the one to come back and say, "Holy , I really missed that one."
I will say this: Spurs' fans are spoiled, and have really high expectations. So far, this kid is all about potential - not the kind of optimism and certainty I'm hearing. If he fails to turn into Manu II, some of you will be the first ones to turn on him, and question why he's even on the floor. Right now a lot of you are basing your optimism on improvement over how he was playing, and not on how good he is playing. Been there, done that with Temple.
I remember Temple, he always played under control. He obviously was a decent role player, and that is exactly what he has become with the Wizards. However, Temple never had elite athleticism or elite anything. Was he the type of player that would make a difference come playoff time. I never saw that in him.
Now as for Simmons, I think he may be able to contribute come playoff time. Who other than Green or Leonard can keep up with the elite guards in the league? Simmons is big enough and quick enough to cover someone like Chris Paul and give him fits. If he works on just denying Paul the ball, the few seconds lost will be enough to derail the Clippers offense.
He needs to work on the left hand dribble
He doesnt even use the left hand dribble to setup the right hand drive
He just tries harder to go right
Good pickup none the less
Recent Spurs games:
Seems to know how to finish in traffic.
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