Heck, I would throw Simmons out there for a couple of minutes and see what happens.
This is not the playoffs, who knows. He might TO or do something nice. Either way our bench was not cutting it.
But yea, stubborn, we know Simms is not going to be a factor in playoffs, so no need to test him here.
Once the full second string got out there, it was like Manu and Patty were trying to force the tempo... but you know.... Marco and Tiago were in tune with that style. West and... was it Kawhi out there at that time?... don't seem to identify much with that method, or didn't this game at least. Haven't watched as many games this year as I would've liked.
When Pop gets upset with Kyle, he goes to Danny with the bench.
This is just my personal opinion of course, but I don't like Danny with that group, he strenghens their defense, but Danny is such a poor ballhandler and worse making decisions with the ball that it really makes them play terrible on Offense.
The bench plays a fast style, with a lot of passing, cutting, all perimeter players put the ball on the floor and consistently probe for a shot. As you know that is not Danny Green's style. In that free flowing style he tends to get worse.
Possibly the guy you are referring to was Kawhi, since he played 40 minutes. But the problem in the bench truly is not the wing.
It is the other 4, the bigs can't rebound or protect the rim, Manu is old and thus bound to have games like this, and Patty tends to chuck too much if no one else has it going on, instead of making real plays of others (its just not his talent).
Badly coached game. The rotation was obviously shortened with Butler, Simmons not able to sniff a second on the court. KA only with 4 minutes. The starters did produce well, look at the +/-. The bench had trouble with a really good Bulls bench with good bigs like Noah and Taj Gibson. I think that's where the big problem is, West is not good enough. He's too small and too slow! I just hate it that he forced Spurs hand by taking that pay cut. Spurs don't need another slow guy manning the paint.
I didn't like the way KA played (he has to take the shot when he has space to take it, be it from long range or penetration...otherwise all our offense is ed) but I also didn't like the fact that Kawhi played all these minutes...inmho the point of having a veteran small forward (Butler) is that you can insert him on the court when your main guy is playing too many minutes and you realize that his natural young sobs ute (KA) has a bad night in terms of decision making.
At the end of the game Kawhi was obviously tired.
Talking about bigs, Imho, if it's true that the best bigs we have are Alridge/Duncan (and so they have to learn toplay together), it's also true that, in the long run, probably the best assembled couples of big are West/Alridge and Diaw Duncan...the point is that Alridge don't want to play center but we always need a sort of rim protector. That said, this could have been a right game to try Marjanovic, considering that both Noah and Gibson are not truly dangerous from outside...
I agree... KL was tired and started missing shots. That's what happens when you shorten the lineup.
My take with Marjanovic is that he may be injury prone and maybe being reserved for the 2nd season (playoffs). I don't think he suited up. Bonner was on the bench.
Time to shut Manu down for a while and play Simmons in the meantime.
+1 I agree. Manu needs more rest! Also against superior defenses like the Bulls, can I guy like Manu be really effective?
Everybody knows what the answer is, but everyone's afraid to do it. West needs to start.
I haven't looked, and I might be off on this, but I think Patty shot much better at home. Some players are like that, they just feel much more comfortable in front of the home crowd.
But you're also right, credit to the Bulls for closing down the 3 point line and still making it physical inside.
This is my concern. The bench was so effective when Manu was in god-mode. Now that he's come down to earth, it looks a lot weaker. Patty and West had poor games to be kind.
2015-2016 PER GAME SPLITS SPLIT GP MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS Total 18 21.2 3.3-7.3 .447 1.6-3.9 .400 0.1-0.1 .500 0.2 1.6 1.8 2.1 0.1 1.2 1.3 1.1 8.2 Home 9 21.1 3.6-8.2 .432 1.9-4.8 .395 0.0-0.0 .000 0.3 1.9 2.2 1.9 0.1 1.4 1.3 0.8 9.0 Road 9 21.2 3.0-6.4 .466 1.2-3.0 .407 0.1-0.2 .500 0.1 1.3 1.4 2.2 0.1 1.0 1.3 1.3 7.3
Not really..his home/away splits are more or less the same, and even shooting tad better on the road. Mills getting continuously burned on D with lack of protection behind when paired with West has made his last games stretch look more awful to our eyes..I think Pop should get back to staggering Diaw/West mins especially on the road when the shots aren't falling for the bench, you have to put a defensive stand to win those games..
Gotta have either Aldridge or Kawhi playing at all times. the bench simply does not have the firepower.
Yeah...the Patty-Manu-KA-Diaw-West lineup has Manu as the best defender...that really isn't sustainable
I agree. The Spurs have two max guys-- no reason they should both be off the floor at the same time...
Looking ahead, this is my concern for the Spurs next year... The Spurs have to find a ball handler to replace both Parker & Manu, which is going to be hard... I think Kawhi & Mills have both improved their handles, but without Manu as the de facto 2nd string PG, there's a big gap there which is only made worse by Danny Green being almost useless in this regard...
Good points, I agree the wing not being the issue. Seeing players like e'twaun moore driving to the basket is tough.
at least he air balled his ft
We lost a close game on the road to a pretty good team. It happens. Trying to analyze every minute for every player isn't going to get those few points back.
Tbh "the bench looked good" was more "manu looked good". I still think we aren't getting far if we don't replace some of the trash on the 2nd unit.
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Bench shot 6-22, Danny Green went 1-5 from downtown, Kawhi 0-3 from downtown. Pop's rotations were weird and KA played close to the worst 4 minutes of his NBA career.
Multiple reasons coincided and it's an unfortunate loss. At least it wasn't for lack of effort. I can't hate on Diaw and West for being short and old or dudes for not hitting shots, and there's no point overreacting to a loss from a team that has tough D, when our offense is struggling.
People are melting down because Golden State are playing out of their minds. What do you expect, the Spurs to also go 19-0 to start the season? We're clearly the 2nd best team in the league right now, with Golden State ahead of us. 3rd is probably the Cavs but even with all our errors we're a shoe-in for 2nd seed and a trip to the WCF against GS.
On top of that Kawhi and LMA ensure that even if we don't ring, we have at least 3-4 good years ahead of us. Personally I feel totally privileged to have watched TD and Spurs get 4 rings as I grew up, to now watch Kawhi and LMA take the Spurs torch into the future. You're ing blessed if you happen to be Spurs fan, don't know what you sissy gots are ing about
That's an and1 too
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