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    I expect to see the bench play much better against the Bucks. Curious to see the lineups for this weeks b2b.

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    I personally envisioned the perfect meld of the two end's of the Spur's dynasty, a Twin Towers 2.0, group of starters led by the KingSlayer with a little Manu sprinkled in a the right time, perfectly counterbalanced by the Manu led bench showing off the 'beautiful game'. I am not sure how any NBA team could adjust to handle two such different but equally deadly styles. However without Manu the bench can't run any offense and even with him looks like a s of it's former glory. There was a time when the Spurs starting 5 was inferior to most of the playoff caliber teams but our bench's clear superiority was the difference in keeping us in the upper echelon. Now I put our starting 5 up against anyone's but our bench is also inferior . I feel a little like Captain Obvious stating the problem with no solution, maybe it needs time to gel. I personally think it might look better with a little more aggressive and a lot less passive Bobo . Some say he is in Robert Horry mode saving it for the post season but to get the #2 seed in the West (and still not sure if I am giving up on the best record in the league just yet) we need him to step up and help make the bench work by facilitating.

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    I personally envisioned the perfect meld of the two end's of the Spur's dynasty, a Twin Towers 2.0, group of starters led by the KingSlayer with a little Manu sprinkled in a the right time, perfectly counterbalanced by the Manu led bench showing off the 'beautiful game'. I am not sure how any NBA team could adjust to handle two such different but equally deadly styles. However without Manu the bench can't run any offense and even with him looks like a s of it's former glory. There was a time when the Spurs starting 5 was inferior to most of the playoff caliber teams but our bench's clear superiority was the difference in keeping us in the upper echelon. Now I put our starting 5 up against anyone's but our bench is also inferior . I feel a little like Captain Obvious stating the problem with no solution, maybe it needs time to gel. I personally think it might look better with a little more aggressive and a lot less passive Bobo . Some say he is in Robert Horry mode saving it for the post season but to get the #2 seed in the West (and still not sure if I am giving up on the best record in the league just yet) we need him to step up and help make the bench work by facilitating.
    The bench is a little different without Tiago rolling to the basket, you had to respect his roll and he was a good passer too. Baynes while a lower Bbiq player was strong finishing at the rim and could also hit the outside jumper if needed. Both also set nice screens which helped Manu out a lot. West doesn't provide any of what we lost with those two. He's more similar to Diaw with less ballhandling, perimeter game, and less crafty post up game. He's kind of redundant, but nothing can be done about it bc despite his awkward fit, he's better than anyone else we could have gotten for the min.

    Point is we don't have a strong roll man that provides an inside presence and some real rim protection and that leaves the bench to shoot from the perimeter. When the jump shot is not falling they are in trouble bc they are not a strong defensive unit defensive unit to at least hold onto leads. When they are clicking they will blow teams out, but when they are not, it will spell doom. Manu can't get to the rim as he used to, his hot start was more due to how well he was shooting the 3 and jumpers and he will cool off.

    That said, everyone in the bench can score, save Kyle maybe who is playing timid offensively due to Pop's strict coaching on his shot selection and he is very low usage. Pop could give Simmons a try with Manu and see how it goes. His athleticism can help with cuts and in transition. He could be the better fit for this current bench but it would be a small improvement anyway while we still have all the other problems I mentioned.

    It also seems like so long as he's progressing and showing improvement Pop will find some minutes for Kyle to allow him to improve because they keep in mind that we have Manu in borrowed time at this point and Kyle has shown early potential as a bench leader. When Tim and Manu retire, the team will be much younger and you kind of have to get these youngsters ready for that.

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    Tbh "the bench looked good" was more "manu looked good". I still think we aren't getting far if we don't replace some of the trash on the 2nd unit.

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    Everything pointed out here holds true. If was noticeable from the very beginning.

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