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    I wonder what his employer did to inspire this workplace violence?
    Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if he was being harassed by a couple of jackasses. Dude probably flipped and went ape after some racist joke/comment or something of the like.

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    Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if he was being harassed by a couple of jackasses. Dude probably flipped and went ape after some racist joke/comment or something of the like.

    People don't understand how hurtful those microagressions can be.

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    Fox/Repug/Christian Taliban War-on-Wimmen news

    Fox News doctor ties San Bernardino shooting to ‘the state of feminism’ — and Benghazi

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/fox-...e+Raw+Story%29

    Benghazi?
    Hillary's sort of a feminist

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    Gotta say I'm extremely surprised to hear this got was a devout muslim.

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    So does the gun "control" narrative become more important now that Muslims in the US procured guns for a workplace attack?

    If the above remains relevant, and strikes the publics eye, the way various groups portray the lessons to be learned will be interesting.

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    How much gun control do they have in France?

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    How much gun control do they have in France?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overvi..._nation#France

    but EC now has open borders, so countries with lax gun control can provide guns to countries with strong gun control, analogous to slave,red states supplying guns to states, cities with strong gun control.

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    How much gun control do they have in France?
    How many mass murders by gun, how many any murders by gun in France vs USA?

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    Looking more and more like radical Islamic terrorism.

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    "left multiple pipe bombs and other explosive devices at various sites"

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    How many mass murders by gun, how many any murders by gun in France vs USA?
    Haven't looked at the stats, but are you more dead when you're killed by a gun?

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    I don't get why you are spouting off on this "copy".

    I get it, you believe terrorists can/will target any place. I happen to believe based on past occurrences they narrow down massacres to location having criteria I mentioned before: maximize casualties and/or specific targets like synagogues, Charlie Hebdo etc (places they view as opposing to their extremist beliefs).

    If it happens that he/they did this for purely religious purposes, then that is where I would expect a terrorist act to place. If it is more to it than that, then I would expect a different scenario which isn't the norm.

    After hearing he's Muslim and some other reports it could be that you are right and that I'm wrong (I've no issues admitting this--I'm wrong a lot in life on a lot of ). It's a possibility I didn't give much consideration considering precedent, but it's looking like that is a significant or way more likely than it was before scenario.

    It's still a fluid situation so we'll learn more. Whatever the case may be, whatever the agenda was, I'm always dumbfounded to find out that these mass shooters usually always get through the cracks because people around them generally don't report to authorities su ious behavior, or aren't payingenough attention or just don't give a (whether it's terroristic or mental issues). These crazies come into contact with people daily, they've gotta show some signs of potential for extreme violence it would seem to me.
    We don't know if it was terrorism yet, but I just find it funny that people think terrorists have to follow some sort of playbook when it comes to carrying out an attack. ISIS doesn't follow any rules and encourages cells to act independently and think outside the box.

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    Not sure if you were listening to the scanner but I'm really curious what happened to the guy in the orange shirt and camo pants they saw running from the SUV that they talked about for an hour or so. Think this was when they had the church surrounded.

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    Not sure if you were listening to the scanner but I'm really curious what happened to the guy in the orange shirt and camo pants they saw running from the SUV that they talked about for an hour or so. Think this was when they had the church surrounded.
    I was listening. Considering it was a residential neighborhood, it could have just been a guy running home after seeing a terrifying gun battle in the street. That's the impression I get from the accounts that mention him.

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    map of all the mass shootings in 2015

    According to the tracker’s data, the San Bernardino incident represents the 355th shooting this year, the Washington Post reported. The incident in San Bernardino also overshadowed another shooting in Savannah, Georgia that occurred the same day, claiming one life and injuring three others.

    However, there’s not a standard definition of “mass shooting.” Adam Lankford, a criminal justice professor at the University of Alabama previously told the NewsHour that FBI’s data included incidents where fewer than four people were shot and didn’t include shootings of multiple people that occur in a home or other uncrowded setting.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...tings-in-2015/


    When people hear "mass shooting" they think of Sandy Hook, they don't think of a drive-by in Chicago which a lot of these on the map are. Not saying one is worse than the other because all shootings are bad but there is a difference that should be distinguished.

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    I was listening. Considering it was a residential neighborhood, it could have just been a guy running home after seeing a terrifying gun battle in the street. That's the impression I get from the accounts that mention him.
    Very possible it could have been. With all the people listening to scanners these days I just wish they'd clear things up.

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    So does the gun "control" narrative become more important now that Muslims in the US procured guns for a workplace attack?

    If the above remains relevant, and strikes the publics eye, the way various groups portray the lessons to be learned will be interesting.
    Sounds like they obtained them legally so no it does not become more important because they were Muslim, unless they were flagged before which doesn't seem to be the case. And I don't know how they can push more gun control when CA has some of the strictest in the Country.

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    How many mass murders by gun, how many any murders by gun in France vs USA?
    Someone on CNN this morning said France is ahead of us on mass murder deaths this year.

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    Someone on CNN this morning said France is ahead of us on mass murder deaths this year.
    I guess if you want to consider the Paris attacks the norm for them. It's not like a mass shooting happens every day there.

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    I guess if you want to consider the Paris attacks the norm for them. It's not like a mass shooting happens every day there.
    More dead is more dead no matter how you slice it.

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    More dead is more dead no matter how you slice it.
    That's like saying 3000 people die from terrorist attacks in the US every year because 2001.

    More dead is more dead no matter how you slice it.

    It's amazing how disingenuous you get in any conversation remotely involving guns.

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    maybe they weren't all legal. In CA a private transfer still has to go through an FFL.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/us/syed-farook-tashfeen-malik-mass-shooting-profile/


    The attackers were "dressed in dark, kind of tactical gear," San Bernardino police Chief Jarrod Burguan said. They carried rifles and semi-automatic handguns.

    Two handguns recovered have been traced back to Farook. He purchased them legally three or four years ago, an official said. Two rifles were purchased by someone else, possibly a former roommate, also legally three or four years ago. Officials said they don't think that person had anything to do with the shooting.





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    That's like saying 3000 people die from terrorist attacks in the US every year because 2001.

    More dead is more dead no matter how you slice it.

    It's amazing how disingenuous you get in any conversation remotely involving guns.
    The numbers don't lie.

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    The numbers don't lie.
    Do you consider this a normal year for mass shootings in France?

    Yes or no.

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