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6 tbh.
Do you really think Pop will have a LMA/Timmy froncourt vs the Warriors' small-ball crunch time unit? Not happening son.
6 tbh.
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"in our first playoff series"....we're not playing the Warriors in the 1st round.
My bad son, I missed that part. Either way, we know that the crunch time of the season will come against the Warriors on the WCF and there Boris will be vital.
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That's not even half true.They lost because Leonard and Manu missed free throws and Pop had Duncan on the bench for the last second three by Ray Allen that shouldn't have been. Don't confuse the facts. Boris is a 4 because there are 6 players on the roster that are more important. Of course, Diaw is important but he can't backup TP or Ginobili at the point, can't knock down three's and play perimeter defense like Danny, can't lock down opponent's best scoring threat like Leonard, isn't the scorer and low post defender LMA is and no, he's not Tim Duncan.
Yeah...I know what you mean. But, you've got to win the other two series first. We all thought Spurs in 6 against the Clippers last year...and you know how that went.
Yeah, we don't lose that series if a number of things would have gone different. As you said, if Manu or Kawhi would have made their FTs, if we would have got that rebound, if Tony hadn't gone 6 of 23 AND if Pop had realized a year earlier that Boris was a matchup advantage against that Heat's team. wouldn't have come down to a missed FT or an offensive rebound if Boris would have played more. So yeah, not only what I said is half true, is fully true and then some, tbh.
Not me, tbh.
You understand the difference between opinion and fact, right? Manu and Kawhi missing FTs are FACTS; Duncan on the bench for Miami's final regular season possession which resulted in a missed rebound that ultimately resulted in a game tying miracle three by Ray Allen is a FACT; Whether or not Boris played more minutes and exploited a matchup advantage is an OPINION and totally subjective. There's no proof that had he played more, the Spurs would have won the series. He certainly didn't do anything out of the ordinary in the two regular season games vs the Heat. How was Pop suppose to know Diaw was the key to the whole series. He's not psychic.
How is saying that Duncan would have gotten the rebound had he been on the court a "FACT!"?
You want facts? I will give you facts. Diaw played a total of 94 minutes on the span of 7 games in '13 and the Spurs lost. He played 176 minutes on 5 games in '14 and the Spurs won by annihilation.
Putting Diaw at a 5 with that avy. pathetic
He's also been super healthy and available to play for the past few seasons, so we don't really know what we really are without him if he isn't available. I'll go with an 8. The league is going super small and Boris so far has not dissappointed against small ball. In time Kyle might surpass him just because his length and real ability to defend on the perimeter is better than Boris, specially contesting shooters, but he's not yet able to punish mismatches like Boris can. Still early in his career though and trained by the Spurs who knows how far he will eventually go.
For now, Bobo is irreplaceable.
I never said Duncan would have gotten the rebound. I was implying Duncan, the Spurs best rebounder, was on the bench (FACT) for Miami's final regular season possession when he should have been on the court. I don't think that's being subjective. Correlation doesn't imply causation. The Spurs were a much better and more focused team in 2014 than they were in 2013. Miami was better in 2013 than they were in 2014. Chris Bosh and D-Wade were non existent for much of the series and Lebron was gassed from carrying the Heat all season. Heat had very little bench production. Boris played tremendous in that series but so did Duncan, Leonard, Green and Ginobili. However, that still doesn't mean he would have made a difference in 2013.How is saying that Duncan would have gotten the rebound had he been on the court a "FACT!"?
You want facts? I will give you facts. Diaw played a total of 94 minutes on the span of 7 games in '13 and the Spurs lost. He played 176 minutes on 5 games in '14 and the Spurs won by annihilation.
No, it doesn't necesarily mean that but one could say that is a very reasonable argument. Just like saying Duncan would have gotten the rebound had he been there at the end.
You can have many guys with 8-10 importance...
For example, Kawhi, Tim, Manu, Bobo, LMA can have the same "level" of importance.
Look at 2014, and even last playoffs, Bobo was the guy Pop went to when nobody wanted to take the shot.
No Diaw no chance. That important.
You wanna know what I find so funny about you?
When I would talk about all the guys who constantly bashed Parker you would reply with things like, "I'm so happy S&B got bolded" and other extremely nice things. (Do you want to go to pull up all those posts?)
When I do the SAME EXACT thing about you with Kawhi....now I'm a got and a "Kawhi-stan". I haven't changed KBL....I'm calling you ers out just the same as I called the Parker haters out.
Seriously dude....in a Boris Diaw thread....you bring up Kawhi's off night with your first post. Talk about pathetic....
He's important....no doubt. I just can't put him in the same echelon as LMA and Kawhi....no matter how much I root for the guy I just can't do it.
I just look at the 1-10 scale a little differently than most here. Doesn't mean I hate the guy....like the catman obviously assumes I do.
It's okay 100%....we just agree to disagree. No harm, no foul.
Automatic guaranteed offense anytime he puts his mind to it. He's got too many weapons and can always create for himself.
Well yah. I just really think 5 is wrong IMHO. To put it simply ,I agree with DMC, no diaw no chance.
Solid 8 imo.. as DAF says.. he's so crucial due to his flexibility he gives us.. against the Warriors he will probably be the second most important Spur after Kawhi.. against the Thunder and Clippers he's arguably 3a or 3b with LMA after Kawhi and Tim.
whatever number that stands for 'vital'
4. An aggressive kawhi will be the biggest thing. BOBO was more important b/c splitter was kind of limited on offense to pick and roll stuff. with LMA we can do more offensive sets and are more likely to bench duncan than lma. Bobo duncan is a pretty killer lineup, but Duncan WEst is nice too. Duncan kawhi is good too. WE have so much depth that he's not critical. add second year Kyle as a passable player, and hope simmons figures it out.
Now, it is very good to be switching up looks from series to series, game to game even. Bobo will get his chance to be Aplha cat.
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