Warriors: Stephen Curry declares himself a better offensive player than LeBron James

[spurraider21]

did larry bird get exposed in 1981?

[DMC]

did larry bird get exposed in 1981?

lol Steph wasn't a rookie.

[DAF86]

Get the out of here. There's pages and pages of you nay saying it.

Please find and post just one then.

[Killakobe81]

Steph has reopened this discussion ...

[DMC]

Steph has reopened this discussion ...

No that was me, Lenny.

[spurraider21]

lol Steph wasn't a rookie.

neither was bird. excellent point

[DMC]

neither was bird. excellent point

Just admit Curry got exposed by a nobody. It's already on the front pages.

[spurraider21]

Just admit Curry got exposed by a nobody. It's already on the front pages.

he had one poor game out of 6. i'm sorry the facts go against your claim, but there's nothing i can do to change that for you

[DMC]

he had one poor game out of 6. i'm sorry the facts go against your claim, but there's nothing i can do to change that for you

Here's your options:

1. Admit Curry got exposed
2. Explain why Iggy won the Finals MVP

Throwing out red herrings and "ya but" won't cut it. If you have a point to make about any other series, start your thread and see who cares.

[spurraider21]

iggy won finals mvp because he played very well while matched up against lebron. it's really not complicated.

if you actually think having 1 poor game out of 6 is getting exposed, then you dont have the mental capacity to engage in a real conversation on this topic

[DMC]

iggy won finals mvp because he played very well while matched up against lebron. it's really not complicated.

if you actually think having 1 poor game out of 6 is getting exposed, then you dont have the mental capacity to engage in a real conversation on this topic

It wasn't a one on one Finals. Steph was on the floor as well.

If you think one poor game cost Steph the Finals MVP... well.

[spurraider21]

It wasn't a one on one Finals. Steph was on the floor as well.

If you think one poor game cost Steph the Finals MVP... well.

it appears that way. he had 1 poor game and he didn't win finals mvp.

considering mongoloids such as yourself are still harping on that one game, i would assume the voters were similarly impacted

[DMC]

it appears that way. he had 1 poor game and he didn't win finals mvp.

Kawhi had a couple poor games on offense and still won the Finals MVP. Curry didn't lose the Finals MVP because he had a poor offensive game. Offense watchers like you think that way though. Iggy won it for his defense, even though James had a 40pt scoring night. Steph just basically disappears at the defensive end, seems to not be in control of the team at that time, just blends in. Then in transition he suddenly resurfaces as the alpha. James Harden plays a similar style. Steph is improving but that's how it looked. When you have two guys like Steph and Klay who aren't great defenders throwing up 27 threes in one game, someone better be defending.

considering mongoloids such as yourself are still harping on that one game, i would assume the voters were similarly impacted

It wasn't the one game. Only the neophyte ball watcher would think it was.

[spurraider21]

So the voters make mistakes. Water is wet. And the numbers support my case, not yours.

[DAF86]

The only reason Curry didn't win finals MVP is because voters got too cute. Here are Curry's and Iggy's numbers for the finals:

Curry - 26 ppg, 6.3 apg, 5.2 rpg, 1.8 spg, 44 FG%, 38 3pt%

Iguodala - 16.3 ppg, 4 apg, 5.8 rpg, 1.3 spg, 52 FG%, 40 3pt%

I think it's pretty obvious who deserved the award. Advanced metric loving media went a little too far on this one. Imagine if they would have voted that way these years:

Bryant - 28.6 ppg, 3.9 apg, 8 rpg, 2.1 spg, 40 FG%, 31 3pt%
Gasol - 18.6 ppg, 3.7 apg, 11.6 rpg, 2.6 bpg, 47 FG%

Bryant - 32.4 ppg, 7.4 apg, 5.6 rpg, 1.4 spg, 43 FG%, 36 3pt%
Gasol - 18.6 ppg, 2.2 apg, 9.2 rpg, 1.8 bpg, 60 FG%

Do you imagine the anger level of Kobe after losing finals MVP to MVPau?

[DMC]

So the voters make mistakes. Water is wet. And the numbers support my case, not yours.

Let's apply Occam's razor here:

1. The NBA Finals voters are less astute than you regarding the game of basketball

or

2. You're mistaken

[spurraider21]

voters have gotten it wrong before. and i never necessarily said iguodala didnt play well enough to get FMVP. he had a really good series

if you're going to say "delly shut curry down" because curry had 1 bad game out of 6, then that's just you being stubborn

[spurraider21]

Let's apply Occam's razor here. Delly and Curry squared off 6 times in the finals. Curry had 1 bad game and played well in the other 5.

1. Delly really shut down Curry, but Curry got lucky for 5/6 games

2. Curry had a bad night in game 2

[TDMVPDPOY]

comparing a guy who can shoot to a guy who is a streaky shooter?

cmon now lebron james is a joke ass shooter


curry is what steve nashw as meant to be if he was a ballhog who looked to shoot first then setting up pnr with amare

[mavsfan1000]

He is annoying. But he backs up his words.

[DMC]

voters have gotten it wrong before. and i never necessarily said iguodala didnt play well enough to get FMVP. he had a really good series

if you're going to say "delly shut curry down" because curry had 1 bad game out of 6, then that's just you being stubborn

He shut him down enough to prevent him from getting the Finals MVP.

or

Steph's defense was so poor as to make AI's really stand out.

or

The voters were wrong and you were right.

Let's apply Occam's razor here. Delly and Curry squared off 6 times in the finals. Curry had 1 bad game and played well in the other 5.

1. Delly really shut down Curry, but Curry got lucky for 5/6 games

2. Curry had a bad night in game 2

Faulty premise from the start.

We aren't discussing whether or not Steph had your idea of a "good game". We are discussing why Steph didn't win the Finals MVP award. So you cannot apply Occam's razor to a premise. You can only apply it to a result. The result is that AI got the FMVP award and Curry did not.


lol "had a bad game" as if he was out there playing alone.

[RsxPiimp]

The only reason Curry didn't win finals MVP is because voters got too cute. Here are Curry's and Iggy's numbers for the finals:

Curry - 26 ppg, 6.3 apg, 5.2 rpg, 1.8 spg, 44 FG%, 38 3pt%

Iguodala - 16.3 ppg, 4 apg, 5.8 rpg, 1.3 spg, 52 FG%, 40 3pt%

I think it's pretty obvious who deserved the award. Advanced metric loving media went a little too far on this one. Imagine if they would have voted that way these years:

Couldn't be anymore wrong tbh. Iguodala is the reason the Warriors didn't choke that series, in all honesty. He came up big when Curry was disappearing in key stretches.


Everyone who watched that series knew Iguodala was their most valuable player.

[spurraider21]

lol "had a bad game" as if he was out there playing alone.

yes. that was game 2, which was a bad game. where was delly's defense in games 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6?

[spurraider21]

He shut him down enough to prevent him from getting the Finals MVP.

or

Steph's defense was so poor as to make AI's really stand out.

steph was matched up against a nobody PG who shot 28% for the series, whereas Iguodala was defending LeBron. that's a really ty argument, even by your standards

The voters were wrong and you were right.

i never actually said iggy getting the FMVP was the wrong decision. it is true that voters have gotten it wrong before, though. i'm fine with iggy getting finals mvp. i also would have been fine with danny green taking F-MVP if we closed in 2013. wouldn't mean he's the best player on the team.

but it doesn't take much away from curry. he was and is the best player on the warriors, and that isn't really in question.

Faulty premise from the start.

We aren't discussing whether or not Steph had your idea of a "good game". We are discussing why Steph didn't win the Finals MVP award. So you cannot apply Occam's razor to a premise. You can only apply it to a result. The result is that AI got the FMVP award and Curry did not.

iggy played a great series while matched up against the best player in the world. i do think curry's game 2 stuck in voters minds and people like yourself still have this perception that he struggled throughout the finals because of delly even though he only had 1 poor game

[DMC]

yes. that was game 2, which was a bad game. where was delly's defense in games 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6?

Delly is a small white bench sitting scrub. Your argument amounts to "Steph is better than Delly" as if someone here has made the assertion that it's not true. Steph is a universe from Delly, but during that Finals, Delly did just enough to keep the regular season MVP from getting the Finals MVP, no matter how you spin it.