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    Cleveland has a flawed team, but a highly talented one at that. It speaks to how Lebron really isn't as versatile and dominant as people make him out to be.
    LeBron imho is still the best all-around player in the world. People though seem to forget how much he has slipped. from when there was Huuuge gap between him at #1 and Curry/durant/Cp3/rose/Kobe whomever at #2. To now. Curry and others are closing fast.

    the reason I have issue with DPg, FKla, CN or whomever making excuses for LeBron is because he chose his current team. He himself admits he should have made a Finals to face the Lakers but all we heard is Cavs failed him he didn't have enough help ...

    So he and Riles from the Heatles they make 4 finals winning two. then he decides to Leave riles and up and coming now proven coach like Spo. To go back to Cleveland where he Ok's the trade of Wiggins for Love and then blesses the millions spent to re-sign Love and Thompson. Kyrie will be back in a few weeks and Shumpert probably a bit after. Love finally looks close to T-Wolves form.

    Once healthy there is no excuses here. Weak East, two all-stars at his side. This team should be in the finals. And once there since everyone says they beat Dubs if healthy last year ...they need to win. If they don't doesnt mean Lebron is a failure he is still a GOAT level player ... but Amb is right it would bring in to some question how truly dominant he is and takes him further away from jordan who I thought he could surpass.

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    That's what Irving is for. When he is back, Lebron will be happy again.

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    LeBron imho is still the best all-around player in the world. People though seem to forget how much he has slipped. from when there was Huuuge gap between him at #1 and Curry/durant/Cp3/rose/Kobe whomever at #2. To now. Curry and others are closing fast.

    the reason I have issue with DPg, FKla, CN or whomever making excuses for LeBron is because he chose his current team. He himself admits he should have made a Finals to face the Lakers but all we heard is Cavs failed him he didn't have enough help ...

    So he and Riles from the Heatles they make 4 finals winning two. then he decides to Leave riles and up and coming now proven coach like Spo. To go back to Cleveland where he Ok's the trade of Wiggins for Love and then blesses the millions spent to re-sign Love and Thompson. Kyrie will be back in a few weeks and Shumpert probably a bit after. Love finally looks close to T-Wolves form.

    Once healthy there is no excuses here. Weak East, two all-stars at his side. This team should be in the finals. And once there since everyone says they beat Dubs if healthy last year ...they need to win. If they don't doesnt mean Lebron is a failure he is still a GOAT level player ... but Amb is right it would bring in to some question how truly dominant he is and takes him further away from jordan who I thought he could surpass.
    Lebron reminds me of a player version of Larry Brown. Really phenomenal at what they actually do, but stink at personnel management, but still forced their way through it, hurting both themselves and the team.

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    Lebron reminds me of a player version of Larry Brown. Really phenomenal at what they actually do, but stink at personnel management, but still forced their way through it, hurting both themselves and the team.
    great point. But to here some tell it ...he still needs help. he left a proven winner like Riles to do it his own way. I thought Mozgof would be a mistake (price wise) it was great trade.Other moves not so much but in the end he has to own these. the SI article I posted claims he did not orchestrate all the moves but Im pretty sure he had at least some veto power ...

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    I have to admit, as a fan of the Spurs, that Cleveland's #2 & #3 guys being defensive liabilities makes me happy. I agree with what some others have said here: they're a talented but poorly constructed team.

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