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    The quick/one read offense they reverted back to him is working quite well, tbh. Good for Seattle staff seeing he couldn't read the field and would hold the ball too long failing to make his reads and focusing on him getting the ball out quick like the last three years

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    There is no system or offense this guy couldn't make work, which I've always known. The winningest QB in history at this stage of a career. He simply has to play the style Carroll wants, if it was drop back and pass he'd excell at that also. And he does it without that stud TE, great receiver.

    Best 4 year QB we have seen, he got off the bus and took over, no bench sitting for this guy.

    Why people fight it like they do...??? How obvious does the fact this guy is a great young QB does it have to be?

    Most here really don't know how all those legends did in their first 4 seasons, none did it better than RW
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    Where are those...he needs BEAST MODE...at?

    When does the fact this kid is a great young QB finally sink it? ing rookies, sheesh~~~~~~

    You do know these guys will get better with NFL experience , right? And look what he's already done with limited experience.

    Why not Google, Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and compare what they did in their first 4 seasons vs RW, ok?
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    Gotta love the internet, ha~~~~~

    I'm having another great ATS season, up over a $1000, crickets. If I were down over a $1000....hahaha!!!!!

    I have talked about RW being the best four year QB we have seen, which got...."you're full of and...yak yak yak"...now that he's proving he doesn't need...THE BEAST..or a fantastic MONSTER D.....crickets.

    Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

    Kid gets off the bus, beats out the big $$$$ guy, then precedes to win a playoff game, come within 3 points of playing for the NFC le as a rookie. Wins it all in year two and comes with in one play of winning it all again in year three, and now in year four what's he doing?

    What QB has been more impressive than this kid in just four seasons, well? Come on, who was that? And, AND..he's doing it without that monster TE or that great wide receiver.

    Come on rookies, pull your head out of your ass, ok?

    Check out his 2015 stats.

    comp %....68.5
    TD/INT's...21-7
    QB rating....106.2

    So who is superior to that in 2015? Come on, who is superior to that in 2015? While RGIII is done and it's...keep Hasselbeck.....HA~~~~~
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    Gotta love the internet, ha~~~~~

    I'm having another great ATS season, up over a $1000, crickets. If I were down over a $1000....hahaha!!!!!

    I have talked about RW being the best four year QB we have seen, which got...."you're full of and...yak yak yak"...now that he's proving he doesn't need...THE BEAST..or a fantastic MONSTER D.....crickets.

    Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

    Kid gets off the bus, beats out the big $$$$ guy, then precedes to win a playoff game, come within 3 points of playing for the NFC le as a rookie. Wins it all in year two and comes with in one play of winning it all again in year three, and now in year four what's he doing?

    What QB has been more impressive than this kid in just four seasons, well? Come on, who was that? And, AND..he's doing it without that monster TE or that great wide receiver.

    Come on rookies, pull your head out of your ass, ok?

    Check out his 2015 stats.

    comp %....68.5
    TD/INT's...21-7
    QB rating....106.2

    So who is superior to that in 2015? Come on, who is superior to that in 2015? While RGIII is done and it's...keep Hasselbeck.....HA~~~~~
    Cecil Short. 100% completion ratio. No TD/Int because you can't divide by 0. QB rating off the charts.
    Average yards per pass...yep...100 yards. Per....pass...

    Of the more known passers, Dalton in general has better numbers in most important categories.

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    The thing about RW is a defensive cordinator has to divise a sheme to handle his run threat, that takes time. What other team has a QB like RW?

    What gets ignored is how those big guys can't be chasing him around and it not take a toll on them. So here comes that 4th quarter and they are spent.

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    Wilson/Newton is going to be the next Manning/Brady rivalry. Faced 5 times in 4 years. Hate each other, already a rivalry. Both play smash mouth football.

    How many times will we see these two go head to head in the next decade?

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    The thing about RW is a defensive cordinator has to divise a sheme to handle his run threat, that takes time. What other team has a QB like RW?

    What gets ignored is how those big guys can't be chasing him around and it not take a toll on them. So here comes that 4th quarter and they are spent.
    Have you been watching games at all this year? Wilson has been awful in 4th quarters

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    Have you been watching games at all this year? Wilson has been awful in 4th quarters
    Have you paid any attention at all to his career? Give me the name of any QB who...

    started more games
    won more reg season games
    won more playoff games
    had a higher QB rating
    played in more SB's

    in their first 4 seasons. Go ahead....who?

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    Have you paid any attention at all to his career? Give me the name of any QB who...

    started more games
    won more reg season games
    won more playoff games
    had a higher QB rating
    played in more SB's

    in their first 4 seasons. Go ahead....who?
    i'll take it as a no.

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    i'll take it as a no.
    I'll take that is you can't come up with anyone who did it better in their first 4 seasons.

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    I'll take that is you can't come up with anyone who did it better in their first 4 seasons.
    Cam Newton

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    You really do need to head off to Google, take a few minutes and bone up on this stuff, please? This thing ya have for Newton is so unrealistic it's comical, ok?

    RW...has more wins, more playoff success, a better comp %, a better TD/INT ratio, a far superior QB rating.

    Go ahead do some homework just once, ok? Show me that isn't true, alright?

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    If we took all the QB's who ever played pro football and just went with their first 4 seasons, RW would be the most impressive if we are looking at.

    starts
    reg season wins
    playoff wins
    SB's
    TD/INT
    QR rating
    Comp %

    Anyone disputing that I challengre to show me the guy who did it better.

    The fact he never sat on a bench, and started on day one is a biggie. He has never missed a start and what QB runs any more than he has to?

    Comparing RW/Newtons rookie seasons.

    CN

    6-10 record
    60.0 comp %
    21-17 TD/INT
    84.5 QB rating

    RW

    11-5...won a playoff game
    64.1
    26-10
    100.0

    And if ya look at their career numbers (4 seasons) it's similiar to that.

    Go ahead pit Montana, Rodgers, Peyton, Favre, Brady against RW, first 4 seasons.
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    Cecil Short. 100% completion ratio. No TD/Int because you can't divide by 0. QB rating off the charts.
    Average yards per pass...yep...100 yards. Per....pass...

    Of the more known passers, Dalton in general has better numbers in most important categories.
    Please post Dalton's playoffs stats; nobody has had a better postseason run than RW in the last 3 years.

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    It is funny watching all these RW haters FINALLY realizing what I've known all along.

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    It is funny watching all these Newton haters FINALLY realizing what I've known all along.
    You included

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    Seattle should have never let Hasselbeck go, tbh. Dumbest decision they ever made.

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    When did I ever not simply tell the truth, show me?

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    Seattle should have never let Hasselbeck go, tbh. Dumbest decision they ever made.
    Now Google Matt Hasselbeck and check out his Seattle years then compare what he did to what RW is doing, ok got?

    Here let me help ya

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...H/HassMa00.htm

    Compare that to RW, OK?

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    Now Google Matt Hasselbeck and check out his Seattle years then compare what he did to what RW is doing, ok got?

    Here let me help ya

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...H/HassMa00.htm

    Compare that to RW, OK?
    He dragged them to the Super Bowl with no Legion of Boom to carry him. Hasselbeck > Struggle.

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    He dragged them to the Super Bowl with no Legion of Boom to carry him. Hasselbeck > Struggle.
    that was the year Shaun Alexander was league mvp and set the single season TD record

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    that was the year Shaun Alexander was league mvp and set the single season TD record
    Struggle had a star running back and the Legion of Boom and a stacked defense in general and Team Leader Breno. There's no comparison.

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    Struggle had a star running back and the Legion of Boom and a stacked defense in general and Team Leader Breno. There's no comparison.
    Just how dumb are you little guy?

    Bart Starr was on a team with 8 HOFers, and he's in the HOF.

    Terry Bradshaw was on a team with a 8 HOFers, and he's in the HOF.

    Now tell us dummy, why is it?

    Dude, you are about as clueless as anyone we see on this board, you simply don't understand the game.

    Matt Hasselbeck wouldn't make a zit on RW ass, ok? Compare the stats, ok?

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