But Kristians passing off that honkey devil as jesus christ is evil. You ing disgusting ing devils and your ty church need to go blowjob the real jesus of the bible, and thats a black man . Gfy and your fake honkified jesus you you.
I'm curious as to how sharply divided along party lines this is. I read a poll stating that 60% of democrats are in favor of letting refugees, compared to 30% republicans. But that was the only poll I've read. I don't think it's a cut and dry liberal conservative issue. A lot of people on both sides seem to disfavor it. Can one party own one side of the issue? I don't think so.
Trump is only doing well among Repug voters, and only 1/3 of them support him as candidate, BUT NOT as President. He's protest candidate for the extreme Repug fringe.
If Krazy Kruz beats Trump in Santorum-sucking Iowa, Trump will be finished.
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Dear Media, Stop Freaking Out About Donald Trump’s Polls
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...-trumps-polls/
Trump is exposing that America has Ms, 10Ms? of "good Germans" in the Repug base.
Fascism in Donald Trump's United States
When Trump proposed the ban at a rally at the USS Yorktown in South Carolina, his plan drew loud cheers from the crowd.
What almost none of the presidential candidates or mainstream political pundits have admitted, however, is not only that Trump's comments form a discourse of hate, bigotry and exclusion, but also that such expressions of racism and fascism are resonating deeply in a landscape of US culture and politics crafted by 40 years of conservative counterrevolution.
Trump is consistently a hatemonger and spreads his message without apology in almost every public encounter in which he finds himself. In this loathsome instance, Trump simply expanded his hate-filled discourse in a new direction, after having already established the deeply ingrained racism and sexism at the heart of his candidacy.
Trump's mockery of Kovaleski and his blatantly discriminatory policy proposals against Muslims are of a piece with his portrayal of Mexican immigrants as violent rapists and drug dealers, and with his calls for the United States to put Syrian refugees in detention centers and create a database to control them. These comments sound eerily close to SS leader Heinrich Himmler's call for camps that held prisoners under orders of what the Nazis euphemistically called "protective custody."
Moreover, Trump's hateful at ude toward people with disabilities points to an earlier element of Hitler's program of genocide in which people with physical and mental disabilities were viewed as disposable because they allegedly undermined the Nazi notion of the "master race." The demonization, objectification and pathologizing of people with disabilities was the first step in developing the foundation for the Nazis' euthanasia program aimed at those declared unworthy of life.
What is truly alarming is how many corporate media figures and intellectuals are defending Trump, not realizing that his candidacy is rooted in the brutal seeds of totalitarianism being cultivated in US society. Trump represents more than the anti-democratic practices and antics of Joseph McCarthy; he illustrates how totalitarianism can take different forms in specific historical moments.
a dangerous "political space ... in both the wider culture and in recent history." This is evident not only in his race-baiting, his crude comments about women and his call to round up and deport 11 million immigrants, but also in his increasing support for violenceagainst protesters at his rallies.
The degree to which Trump expresses his support of violence, racism and the violation of civil liberties, visibly and without apology, is unprecedented in recent national political races.
"We're going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule ... And so we're going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago." Trump's call to do "the unthinkable" is a fundamental principle of any notion of totalitarianism, regardless of the form it takes.
Trump and his ilk merge a hypernationalism, racism, economic fundamentalism and religious bigotry with a flagrant sense of lawlessness. His hate-filled speech is matched by an unsettling embrace of violence against immigrants and other oppositional voices issued by his supporters at many of his rallies. This type of lawlessness does more than encourage hate and violent mob mentalities; it also legitimates the kind of inflammatory rhetoric that gives credibility to acts of violence against others.
This is not simply the behavior of moral and political cowards; it is the toxic affirmation of the machineries of death we associate with fascism. Such acts point to a large climate of lawlessness in US society that makes it all the easier to ignore human rights, justice and democracy itself. There are historical precedents for this type of violence and for the hate-filled racist speech of the politicians who create the climate that legitimates it. We heard this same hatred in the words of Hitler, Mussolini, Pinochet and other demagogic orators who have ranted against Jews, communists and others alleged "infidels."
Trump's recent call to bring back waterboarding and to support a torture regime far exceeds what might be called an act of stupidity or ignorance. Torture in this instance becomes a means of exacting revenge on those whom the right considers to be "other," un-American and inferior - principally Muslims, immigrants and activists taking part in the movement for Black lives. We have heard this discourse before during the totalitarian regimes of the 1930s and later during the dictatorships in Latin America in the 1970s. Heather Digby Parton is right when she writes that Donald Trump "may be the first openly fascistic frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination but the ground was prepared and the seeds of his success sowed over the course of many years. We've had fascism flowing through the American political bloodstream for quite some time."
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/3...-united-states
Did you see the poll on the previous page? It says 48% Democrat, 62% Independent, 83% Republicans do not want to accept and this was taken before the shooting last week.
liberals call so many conservatives fascist that it really lost its effect
MSNBC
Foxnews poll @ 3:00 99% in favor of banning Muslims
Repugs are the party of privileges for white people, the oppressors of non-white people, authoritarian, jingoists, chauvanists, American exceptionalism, fascist-style marriage of corporate power with govt power,
"Some scholars consider fascism right-wing because of its social conservatism and authoritarian means of opposing egalitarianism"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascis...tical_spectrum
.... both which are fundamental to Repugs.
Trump is really no different from the other candidates, from tea baggers. He is a ty dog whistler, the others are better, been doing it since Goldwater.
LOL at the MSNBC poll - it's the non-whites who don't want the Muslims here. What say you, boutons?MSNBC
Foxnews poll @ 3:00 99% in favor of banning Muslims
There's a strong legacy of xenophobia in the minority community.
lol internet polls.
Since when did being anti-muslim lose you popularity contests in America? Only the media and boutons thinks it hurts you.
Stick a cane in the man's hand and a stubbly moustache and I think you could pass this guy as the modern day Francisco Franco. How long before he bans all trade with other countries and runs an autarkic economy, the bad wanker.
I'm starting to believe Trump will be our next potus...as sad as that is to say.
The MSNBC poll is an internet one. Some crazy Trump supporter could be mass voting - although they probably would have to have been watching MSNBC to know about the poll - so maybe unlikely.
absolutely not, 30% of Repug voters isn't enough win the WH. Sounds like the Repugs are going after him seriously, asking him to withdraw, etc, etc. If he goes 3rd party, then Dems win the WH.
Donald Trump is a symptom — not the disease
Candice Miller, a US Congresswoman, introduced a bill, the Visa Waiver Program Improvement Act of 2015.
If passed, the bill will suddenly cast US citizens of Arab, Iranian, and Muslims descent as second-class citizens in their own country - a "legislation that will effectively create two classes of Americans - Americans with Middle Eastern or Muslim background, and Americans without that background".
"If you thought Donald Trump's divisive, bigoted and blatantly racist rhetoric was just a reflection of the silliness we always face during primary campaigns", as one observer rightly put it, "think again".
As world attention is focused on Trump's racist theatrics, the House of Representatives has just passed the bill with an overwhelming vote of 407-19.
Nothing new
In a country where US-Israeli dual citizens go and as mercenary soldiers fight to steal more of Palestine, and their New York Times columnist father publicly brags about that fact, if an American of Iraqi, Syrian, Iranian, or Libyan origin as much as sets foot in his country of birth she or he is subject to systemic su ion and discrimination.
These are not easy days for Muslims who live in the US and the horrid criminal acts in San Bernardino or Paris have very little to do with these developments.
They are just a subterfuge. People like Trump and his ilk did not have to wait for the San Bernardino or Paris attacks to occur for their hatred of Muslims or Arabs to surface.
That surfacing is a sign of much deeper troubles.
Trump is a symptom not the disease. He is a decoy, a diversion so outrageous, so disgusting, that it overwhelms and hides the real disease.
Trump's call to ban Muslims from entering the US, or his earlier remark to single out and profile Muslims, or his fellow Republican candidate Ben Carson stating point blank that no Muslim should ever become president, are only the most obnoxious versions of a much more deeply rooted bigotry and racism against Muslims that has been dominant in the US for a very long time, but particularly since 9/11.
If you are distracted by the noxious symptom of Trump you will forget that the democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton only a few weeks ago prided herself to have the entire Iranian people as her enemy.
Today leading American liberals such as Michael Tomasky, taking their cues from like-minded Islamophobes gathered under the banner of "New Atheists", unabashedly expose their racism and single out Muslim Americans and order them to prove their peaceful citizenship in the US by declaring to Muslim Americans that "the rights you have as Americans have to be earned, fought for". Why? By what authority? Who died and made Michael Tomasky the judge and the jury of Muslim Americans peaceful citizenship?
To me this fundamental abrogation of human decency is worse than Trump's vulgarity. It is a fundamental democratic principal that a citizen is innocent unless proved guilty, that a citizen is en led to his and her inalienable rights, and need not "earn" it or "fight for it".
But who has heard of Tomasky, busy as people are denouncing Donald Trump - and yet to me the roots of Trump are precisely in the pretty liberalism of Tomasky and his ilk.
Historic challenge
The threat the Muslims face today in the US is not limited to fascist wannabes like Trump.
The challenge is much deeper and firmly rooted in the political culture of a country that began its history by the mass murder of Native Americans, continued by the systematic slavery of African Americans, and most recently with a stroke of a pen ordered the US population of Japanese descent incarcerated in concentration (internment) camps during World War II.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/dona...e+Raw+Story%29
Candy is naturally a Repug, Michigan
We'll see how many co-sponsors her bill gets. Like all Repugs who adore the Cons ution, she treats it with the rough love of ignoring it.
The right-wing media’s hilarious response to Donald Trump’s fascism: It’s all Obama’s fault!
Conservatives now forced to cope with a force of nature in their primary are doing what they do best in response
This week Republicans looked deep into their souls in search of the reason for their party’s descent into a frothing mixture of xenophobia and nativism that, to paraphrase Kyle Reese, cannot be bargained with, reasoned with, and will never stop, ever. And there, deep within their hearts, they found the answer: It’s all Barack Obama’s fault.
"The president sought to stave off a backlash against Muslim Americans, which has never materialized on a grand scale over the course of the 14 years that elapsed since 9/11. That does not mean it never will, and it is the president who is inviting such a backlash by allowing the terrorist threat overseas to metastasize and erode Americans’ sense of security at home."
"President Obama was supposed to be someone who unified us as a nation; whose eloquence brought us together in harmony and dialogue; he was supposed to be not just smart, but wise and capable. In all these aspects, the professor in chief has failed[…]
There is a marked frustration in the president’s lectures of the American people, an undercurrent that has only grown over the course of his tenure. At first he was frustrated with politicians in Washington not listening to him. Now he seems more frustrated with the American people for not listening, either."
And just for the heck of it, here is Elizabeth Hasselbeck complaining that people are going to such extremes of fear because he hasn’t said or done anything to make her feel safe. (Which she would not have listened to anyway, because her paycheck depends on her not listening to it.)
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/09/the_..._obamas_fault/
You just gotta love it, The Donald is eating the Democrats alive and own them. As well as the Republicans like Karl Rove. The American people are tired of the crap spewed by the same old crowd. Go Donald, your the man.
why not? i think its killer. he takes the conversation where wimps are afraid to go.
boutons, I think his support comes from the moderate repubs, independents - not the typical republican base. That's why he doesn't do well in conservative states like Iowa. He does do well in the swing states like Florida beating even Rubio and Bush. I think that's why Cruz has been very careful not to say anything against Trump. He knows he can't win the repub nomination but he's hoping Trump wins and asks Cruz to run with him (to get the conservative, evangelical vote). That'd cover the widest spectrum from the far right, moderates, center, independents and any disenchanted democrats.
UK has gathered 200,000 signatures on a pe ion to ban Trump from the UK - bet most of them are Muslims. Wouldn't it be funny if Trump does become president and is banned from the UK?
Last edited by rmt; 12-09-2015 at 01:18 PM.
Rubio cant beat trump imo
He knows after trump becomes the Reality Star In Chief, he will be on that train right along the mexicans and muslims.
He knows he isnt white enough to be excluded from the mass deportations. He dont wanna get on trumps bad side imo.
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