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So if we exclude that 20+ FGA game he's only averaging 12.25 FGA during the other four games? An amount that is way too low for a Top 5 player in the league. Or in other words OP is right per par. Thanks for proving his point.
Parker just has crappy court vision. He never sees the open man on pnr. His passes always seem to be within a play, and rarely due to decision making... If he shoots a high pct? I don't care so much, but you gotta think if ur LMA,TD, KL your often saying "wtf, are u blind!?"
So if we exclude that 20+ FGA game he's only averaging 12.25 FGA during the other four games? An amount that is way too low for a Top 5 player in the league. Or in other words OP is right per par. Thanks for proving his point.
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Pretty much. And people think I am trolling. Parker is very subtle. Anyone but Leonard is his new moto...So if we exclude that 20+ FGA game he's only averaging 12.25 FGA during the other four games? An amount that is way too low for a Top 5 player in the league. Or in other words OP is right per par. Thanks for proving his point.
The Spurs are 4-0 in those games so what exactly are you and your femme fatale complaining about again?So if we exclude that 20+ FGA game he's only averaging 12.25 FGA during the other four games? An amount that is way too low for a Top 5 player in the league. Or in other words OP is right per par. Thanks for proving his point.
Please explain exactly why your asses are so sore this time.
Let's take a look at some stats:
Is Parker over-dribbling this year?
No. He's about average in that regard.
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...ER_TOUCH&dir=1
Is he ball dominating?
No. He's averaging 71 touches per game. Compare that to other point guards. You can say Parker's relatively lower touches-per-game stat is due to pace, but Mike Conley averages 13 more touches per game. And other PGs/Ball Handlers who play in slower pace systems (Kyle Lowry, Dragic, James) all average more touches. Parker's time of possession and average seconds per touch are also way down on the list.
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...=TOUCHES&dir=1
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...ER_TOUCH&dir=1
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla..._OF_POSS&dir=1
Yes, Parker plays less minutes, but when you divide by minutes, he's averaging 2.6 touches per minute, which is about average for PGs. His passes made per minute is also higher than assist heavy PGs like Chris Paul, Rubio, and Westbrook.
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...SES_MADE&dir=1
And we know he's 3rd in secondary assists. And considering Kawhi is our leading scorer by a good margin, the ball is finding him after Parker initiates the offense.
It's also worth mentioning that it's wise to have Parker with the ball and Kawhi on the opposite ends of the floor. You don't want your PG and best wing scorer playing on the same side all that often. There will be no spacing. You don't want Parker dribbling around to find Kawhi, bringing the defense with him, making it all that much easier to swarm Leonard when he gets the ball. Look at these triangle plays for instance. See how Kobe (number 8) and the ball handler are set on opposite sides.
Or Horns. See how far the PG and wings are form each other:
Apa wants Parker to dribble up and dump it into Kawhi as if he's a big. That's a terrible idea. PGs and scoring wings really don't play 2 man games. The only time Parker should dump it in is off a fast break where Kawhi has gotten early post up position or has his man sealed under the basket. In typical half court sets, a PG should always look for a big man first.
Last edited by midnightpulp; 12-06-2015 at 11:55 PM.
Appreciate the info, that's good research. But you know him and his buddies aren't trying to talk basketball right? Arguing with people on the internet together is sort of their social life.Let's take a look at some stats:
Is Parker over-dribbling this year?
No. He's about average in that regard.
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...ER_TOUCH&dir=1
Is he ball dominating?
No. He's averaging 71 touches per game. Compare that to other point guards. You can say Parker's relatively lower touches-per-game stat is due to pace, but Mike Conley averages 13 more touches per game. And other PGs/Ball Handlers who play in slower pace systems (Kyle Lowry, Dragic, James) all average more touches. Parker's time of possession and average seconds per touch are also way down on the list.
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...=TOUCHES&dir=1
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...ER_TOUCH&dir=1
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla..._OF_POSS&dir=1
Yes, Parker plays less minutes, but when you divide by minutes, he's averaging 2.6 touches per minute, which is about average for PGs. His passes made per minute is also higher than assist heavy PGs like Chris Paul, Rubio, and Westbrook.
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...SES_MADE&dir=1
And we know he's 3rd in secondary assists. And considering Kawhi is our leading scorer by a good margin, the ball is finding him after Parker initiates the offense.
It's also worth mentioning that it's wise to have Parker with the ball and Kawhi on the opposite ends of the floor. You don't want your PG and best wing scorer playing on the same side all that often. There will be no spacing. You don't want Parker dribbling around to find Kawhi, bringing the defense with him, making it all that much easier to swarm Leonard when he gets the ball. Look at these triangle plays for instance. See how Kobe (number 8) and the ball handler are set on opposite sides.
Or Horns. See how far the PG and wings are form each other:
Apa wants Parker to dribble up and dump it into Kawhi as if he's a big. That's a terrible idea. PGs and scoring wings really don't play 2 man games. The only time Parker should dump it in is off a fast break where Kawhi has gotten early post up position or has his man sealed under the basket. In typical half court sets, a PG should always look for a big man first.
yes, excluding the game where he took 21 shots and we lost, he's averaging 12.25 FGA in the 4 games we wonSo if we exclude that 20+ FGA game he's only averaging 12.25 FGA during the other four games? An amount that is way too low for a Top 5 player in the league. Or in other words OP is right per par. Thanks for proving his point.
Why would you arbitrarily eliminate one game, the one with the highest FGA? That's just a manipulation of the math to make a wrong assertion less wrong. You could just as easily eliminate the 11 shots in the Atlanta game, where he played fewer minutes due to the blowout, or argue that the Milwaukee game was a blowout and Kawhi only needed to play 25 minutes instead his typical 34... Plus the original argument of the OP was that Parker was taking SIGNIFICANTLY MORE shots per minute, which is simply untrue, no matter how you try to rework the numbers.So if we exclude that 20+ FGA game he's only averaging 12.25 FGA during the other four games? An amount that is way too low for a Top 5 player in the league. Or in other words OP is right per par. Thanks for proving his point.
Really got into your head didn't I? Aren't you supposed to be old and veteran enough not to get internet talk get into you? Sad life. Just take care of your grandchildren pops.Don't forget to add 100%duncan to that krew.. got
Don't criticize my Spurs
Kawhi has his second bad shooting game in three games, and our resident got has to make a thread sucking his nuts as per his usual.
Good news tbh. Kawhi really needs the rest after averaging over 20/game and locking down on d. Can't do that all season.
I'm not sure, Thunder 1-3 pick and roll always looks good. The same with some Irving-LeBron plays of last season.
Well, I'd like to see Parker passing the ball to Kawhi when he cuts to the rim, but we didn't see that very often. The only two guys who looked for Kawhi when he made the move were Tim and West, tbh.The only time Parker should dump it in is off a fast break where Kawhi has gotten early post up position or has his man sealed under the basket
Also, if Parker has the ball in his hands to initiate the offense the most minutes per game and only should pass to Kawhi to run a fast break...you basically are saying Kawhi's offense should be limitated to run fast breaks and shots 3's because he won't get the ball...Parker won't pass the ball to him in other plays.
Last edited by YGWHI; 12-07-2015 at 07:21 PM.
That won't continue if Kawhi only gets the ball to shoot 3's like happened in the last two games.
If Pop thinks Kawhi's a post up player, Kawhi should get the ball in the post more often.
If Pop thinks Kawhi's mid-range shooter, Pop should facilitate Kawhi's offense with guys setting screens for him, he's able to come off screens and pop from midrange.
It would be nice if they give him the ball in position to be successful, better designed plays for him than the last play in Chicago give-the-ball-to-Kawhi-to-figure-it-out ...some help could benefit his offense.
Last edited by YGWHI; 12-07-2015 at 09:37 AM.
Jimmer?
Ever hear the word "outlier"? Maybe you're not the right guy to give math lectures.
Really got into your head didn't I? Aren't you supposed to be old and veteran enough not to get internet talk get into you? Sad life. Just take care of your grandchildren pops.
0 shots tonight and we dominated
1 FGA and the Kawhi post-ups have basically been eliminated from the playbook
Thanks for playing like a Top 5 player Kawhi but Rique has been playing semi decent so time to take a backseat. Go stand in the corner.
are you watching the game or the box score? he hasn't been doing much with the ball
Can't get a rhythm if you don't get the ball besides 5 touches.
why is that funny?Can't get a rhythm if you don't get the ball besides 5 touches.
He's not even involved tonight. A couple post ups but otherwise he's parked on the 3 point line.
One shot attempt is ridiculous. Even with a minutes restriction. Even coming back from being sick.
Pop might as well have sat him another game.
Cause you a dumbass. Give him more touches and he'll produce like always. He is a top 5 player you know.
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