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    For some reason I'm glad we are a bit ugly at this juncture.

    If if we stay healthy, I see us getting better before getting worse. I thought we were supposed to wait for the rodeo rode trip before we solidify and then sharpen after that until we peak right at playoff time. We are forging a steel blade, right?

    I guess the old, "peaking early"' does not apply to this team... not that I believed it in the first place.

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    How did you like that funky lineup with Butler, Simmons, Anderson, Bobo and Patty?

    Popovich is doing the same thing he has done on several of his championship years as he figures out how to put together this roster. The 2015 team took two years to really reach their pinnacle.

    Nonetheless, this is not new territory. He did it with guys like Berry, Belli, Finley, Elson, Willis, Kersey, et al over the years. This is precisely where Popovich's program pays off over time. Simmons is getting the same shot as two Jacksons, Neal, and Green. Bobo when he got here was much like Aldridge now: hesitant to take shots and unsure of where to go. West and Bobo are fun to watch already. They screw up their spacing a lot. So does Simmons, Anderson, West, and all the other new guys.



    I do like how you write a bit like KBP it makes me nostalgic.
    I missed those eras, regrettably. I was too young and not into BBALL lol.

    I find all the coaching by Pop the most interesting aspect of the Spurs. I actually am more intrigued by things like strategies and styles that Pop goes with and with his experiments and adjustments during games, than with a single player. With the Spurs it is the collective that keeps me interested. Last year, what intrigued me was watching Kawhi's expanding role because there really wasn't anyone else new to be excited about, and they never reached the high the had achieved the championship season. I kind of felt Pop should have refreshed last season's roster, and we were hit by attrition pretty hard. We now know they were staying pat because they were hoping for a bit time acquisition over the summer, which we got, but we could have improved. However, any improvement they could added would have had a marginal impact and they risked it for a more impactful player this season, and it was a good call, but at the time we felt very stale.

    To be honest, I would much have rather played Anderson last season than any Daye minutes, because Anderson competes and makes many hustle plays that help you win games even when he's not shooting well, which hopefully bodes well for his future, as well as his youth (Daye was much more limited to a one trick pony, with a very bad trick, and with low likelihood of improvement considering he was a journeyman veteran 26 yrs. old already, and he had a low BBIQ.) But the fact Pop gave Daye a real shot before moving on just tells me how fair Pop is in giving guys a real shot at improving before moving on. I also thought Jamychal Green was a much better player than Ayers and it showed during preseason.

    I might be overstepping into imaginary land, but Anderson's length and potential against small ball makes him a weapon. Limited samples and minutes, but he's been a real gem as a small ball 4. He's a real smart BBall player, and anticipates. He's not athletic, but he's at the right spot at the right time. Guys like Duncan and Diaw are the same on defense. Its not the athletic defensive plays for them, but their feel for the game and anticipation which helps them. I like Anderson's potential very much. He's just a young player still finding his game, still adjusting to this level, learning what he can and cannot do, and how to compensate for his lack of speed. But he will need to be more aggressive with his shots. He doesn't need to go all summer league on us, but he can't be Diaw 1.0 for us out there either. At some point, Pop really got on his mind about the shot selection and he's lost confidence in his game. He has to get aggressive and start shooting the 3.

    Anderson and Simmons are a terrific tandem for our future bench, both can pass at an elite level, they are just inexperienced. Anderson will be able to find Simmons in all sorts of cuts. We saw it in SL, and they have chemistry. I thought that small ball team Pop put out there worked because Anderson defensively compensated for the lack of rim protection somewhat with all of his deflections, and pressure on guys getting to the basket. Simmons athleticism in transition stands out, but that lineup would have been eaten alive on defense if not for Anderson.

    Rasual also made a few defensive plays in that stretch. I actually liked that lineup a lot, subs ute Kawhi for Rasual and you have a killer lineup that also ate Denver alive the past game.

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    Everyone else in the NBA aside from the Warriors is chasing us. We may not look great yet, but NO one outside of the Dubs do. Houston looks done. The Clippers look like they're walking the plank. If you think our defense has bad moments, turn on an OKC game sometime.
    We're nowhere close to where we want to be. And guess what? There are 63 games left in the preseason. Lots of time to figure it out.
    Agreed on all points.

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    I'm on the defense hype train. Offense comes and goes but defense win championships. Just recall how many great offensive teams there have been over the past 10 years, and think of how many great defensive teams. You think defense, you think the big 3 in Boston, big 3 in Miami, the mid 2000's Pistons, the Lakers... you know, teams that won things.

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    every win is free cake until after xmas. that's when the season starts
    Cute little pithy sayings like that don't mean . The season started when it started. 20 games = 20 games, now or at the end of the RS.

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    How did you like that funky lineup with Butler, Simmons, Anderson, Bobo and Patty?

    Popovich is doing the same thing he has done on several of his championship years as he figures out how to put together this roster. The 2015 team took two years to really reach their pinnacle.

    Nonetheless, this is not new territory. He did it with guys like Berry, Belli, Finley, Elson, Willis, Kersey, et al over the years. This is precisely where Popovich's program pays off over time. Simmons is getting the same shot as two Jacksons, Neal, and Green. Bobo when he got here was much like Aldridge now: hesitant to take shots and unsure of where to go. West and Bobo are fun to watch already. They screw up their spacing a lot. So does Simmons, Anderson, West, and all the other new guys.



    I do like how you write a bit like KBP it makes me nostalgic.
    I'm trying to think who Berry is.

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    =I believe the Spurs' weak schedule and new, slower offensive approach has more to do with the numbers looking so good. Less possessions = less points.
    The Spurs are #1 in the NBA in defensive efficiency, and have a mark that's the 4th highest in the last 30 years. And that was before the Memphis game.

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    The Spurs are #1 in the NBA in defensive efficiency, and have a mark that's the 4th highest in the last 30 years. And that was before the Memphis game.
    We got Green and KL perimeter. Parker is doing a better job at staying in front of his opponent. Duncan and Aldridge together have been very good at rim protecting, it's solid.

    Last night showed us scoring bursts from Duncan, Aldrdge, Parker, and KL at opportune moments. And we can get better offensively. I feel good. I will have a pastry in celebration.

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    The contests at the rim this season are much-improved! Aldridge is long and protects the rim much better than anticipated. LaMarcus' 1.2 bpg is an awesome complement to Duncan's protection. Even Rasual Butler has been a nice surprise contesting lay ups.
    Most teams this season will have to beat the Spurs from either the outside, in transition or in second chance points.
    Previous Spurs barely contested at the rim. This team is different. Defense is suffocating and the opponents just crumble under the pressure.

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    I might be overstepping into imaginary land, but Anderson's length and potential against small ball makes him a weapon. Limited samples and minutes, but he's been a real gem as a small ball 4. He's a real smart BBall player, and anticipates. He's not athletic, but he's at the right spot at the right time. Guys like Duncan and Diaw are the same on defense. Its not the athletic defensive plays for them, but their feel for the game and anticipation which helps them. I like Anderson's potential very much. He's just a young player still finding his game, still adjusting to this level, learning what he can and cannot do, and how to compensate for his lack of speed. But he will need to be more aggressive with his shots. He doesn't need to go all summer league on us, but he can't be Diaw 1.0 for us out there either. At some point, Pop really got on his mind about the shot selection and he's lost confidence in his game. He has to get aggressive and start shooting the 3.

    Anderson and Simmons are a terrific tandem for our future bench, both can pass at an elite level, they are just inexperienced. Anderson will be able to find Simmons in all sorts of cuts. We saw it in SL, and they have chemistry. I thought that small ball team Pop put out there worked because Anderson defensively compensated for the lack of rim protection somewhat with all of his deflections, and pressure on guys getting to the basket. Simmons athleticism in transition stands out, but that lineup would have been eaten alive on defense if not for Anderson.

    Rasual also made a few defensive plays in that stretch. I actually liked that lineup a lot, subs ute Kawhi for Rasual and you have a killer lineup that also ate Denver alive the past game.
    Against the Grizzlies, Anderson did very well defensively. His length was also causing a lot of 3 point attempts to miss badly. In fact, the foul he had on Chalmers, when you look at in in replay was clearly an offensive foul. He's improved his timing such that guards are having trouble finishing in layups. I don't think it's imaginary. Also people forget that Anderson is only 21 years old.

    This team can get pretty scaring if both Anderson and Simmons start improving.

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    Previous Spurs barely contested at the rim. This team is different. Defense is suffocating and the opponents just crumble under the pressure.
    Indeed, ceperez. You know...there is a stretch of games in March and April where the Spurs' mettle will really be tested, including Warriors x 3, Thunder x 3 plus several of the better defensive teams.

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    The Spurs have exceeded expectations and aren't as good as their record, which is obviously a good thing..they still have plenty of room to grow, even if/when the defense regresses..

    They are the only predicted contender that entered the season with the plan of changing their entire offensive style and integrating a high-usage player into their rotation..I thought they would finish 2nd in the division, didn't expect Houston to have a historic collapse, and my reason was that I figured it would take a few months for the Spurs to gel, particularly on offense, which has been true, so far, aesthetically..I didn't expect to see a smooth offense with defined roles until February..

    Kawhi playing at an MVP level and Parker/Ginobili(Manu has slowed down the past 3 games or so, finally) playing like stars has helped negate some of the chemistry issues..while the defense has been the main catalyst, the biggest reason for the Spurs record is that the rest of the league has been really ty, so far..outside of Golden State, San Antonio, Cleveland and OKC with Durant, none of the other projected contenders have looked good, some of them suffering from complete collapses(Houston), and others already plagued by injuries(Clippers)..

    The offensive struggles have been mainly on Green and Aldridge, hopefully they both get it together..it'll be essential, as you can't expect Parker and Ginobili to maintain their level of play, as we saw last season..
    As I said here, the Spurs aren't even close to being as good as their record, tbh..they're a product of a weak schedule and a weak NBA season, overall, so far..

    They have been carried by Kawhi playing at an MVP level and shooting a unsustainable % from 3, with Parker and Ginobili having resurgences that probably won't last past March IMO(especially Parker)..if this is the real Green, the Spurs are probably done, anyways, but it doesn't help that Aldridge is just a role player in this system..

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    As I said here, the Spurs aren't even close to being as good as their record, tbh..they're a product of a weak schedule and a weak NBA season, overall, so far..

    They have been carried by Kawhi playing at an MVP level and shooting a unsustainable % from 3, with Parker and Ginobili having resurgences that probably won't last past March IMO(especially Parker)..if this is the real Green, the Spurs are probably done, anyways, but it doesn't help that Aldridge is just a role player in this system..
    You expect parker and gino to regress to the mean but not Green? It's not like green is getting any less space than last year. Just ain't hitting them with confidence. Early December. Losing to good teams is just a loss to the Spurs. Nothing to worry about. The seed is more important to the Spurs than beating good teams. We still have a perfect record at home. We are good.

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    if this is the real Green, the Spurs are probably done, anyways..
    Green has been especially frustrating all season.

    Danny drives under pressure, guaranteed TO + points for the other team.

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